AMD FM1 and FM2 Packages Pictured Side-by-Side, Incompatible

[Nesters]

With so much of the chipset built into the APU, overclocking via the reference clock on APUs will not garner you much benefit.

Well, there are benchmarks floating around with 4ghz+ A6/Athlon X4 631 showing some nice performance numbers (for Stars architecture).

 

[Super XP]

Lolz where did you hear that? Trinity has two Piledriver modules (4 cores).

 

[plonk420]

Well, hopefully like Intel's transition from 1156 to 1155, it means that the chip has been reorganized and is *hopefully* going to be even better than the current APUs. We don't really want Bulldozer (in its current state) with graphics slapped on, do we?

my stepmom won't care if it's a Bulldozer. i'll just be lucky to talk her into a CPU slightly more expensive than a baseline so that my babysis will have a GPU she can play Portal and some other cheap casuals on.

 

[Wile E]

Socket pins can be made much more compact than package pins, and hence higher pin-counts can be achieved using LGA. For the same reason, AMD uses LGA and not PGA for all its packages with over 1000 pins. Intel switched to LGA from PGA because it wanted to maintain a package size similar to s478 package, while making room for 775 pins. LGA775 packages ended up being more compact than AMD's PGAs.

AMD has LGA1207 and LGA1974 (G32), which are both LGA, Opteron processors use them.

http://img.techpowerup.org/111114/bta89764kjhd.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-02-14/55a.jpg

So the debate between PGA and LGA cannot be reduced to Intel vs. AMD by angry AMD fankids. PGA is archaic whichever way you look at it. It poses pin-density limitations, in turn pin-count limitations if you don't want to enlarge your package dimensions like no tomorrow.

If AMD wants more pins, for more memory channels, more PCIe lanes from the CPU, or simply more HyperTransport links, the transition to LGA is inevitable. Opteron products already made that switch five years ago.

Fair enough, but I still find PGA to be better able to handle physical mishaps. lol.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

If this is true ouch . .. kind crappy of AMD to do.

 

[Mussels]

If this is true ouch . .. kind crappy of AMD to do.

why? they gave it a different socket name, so ofc it'd be incompatible.