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ASUS Announces PQ321Q Pre-Order: The World's First Consumer 4K Monitor

btarunr said:
5760 x 1080 = 6,220,800 pixels. 3840 x 2160 = 8,294,400 pixels. Some enthusiasts have been using 5760 x 1080 (3x 1080p Eyefinity/3DVS) for nearly 4 years now; and 5760 x 2160 = 12,441,600 pixels (six-monitor Eyefinity), has existed all that while. So 3840 x 2160 isn't ahead of its time. Anandtech's review runs all its games maxed out (which could include settings such as 8x MSAA), and obviously a GTX 680 will crawl. The fact that it's even doing 20-30 FPS on some games, shows that 3840x2160 is very much doable with today's hardware. You just need to turn down a few settings.
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At 3840 x 2160 I'm sure AA is not needed.
 
tigger said:
At 3840 x 2160 I'm sure AA is not needed.
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Exactly, so when Anantech mentions "maxed out," I'm sure they're cranking up AA unnecessarily, as well.
 
They used SSAA for Sleeping Dogs...

Two GPUs are fine for 4K gaming with lots of eyecandy imho.

Once AMD/ATI gets rid of the frametime issues we'll probably have good performance at reasonable price tags with their next series.
 
Prima.Vera said:
There are TVs with 50" and 4K resolution for less than 1500$. What's the deal ASSus??
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BXF7I9M/?tag=tec06d-20

Also trick question: Is it 30 or 60Hz Native??
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Also take note that Seiki has announced a 39" 4K UHDTV for ~$699. It will almost certainly be limited to 30Hz refresh rate but the price is hard to pass up on,.....

Pre-orders were supposed to start in late June at Sears online.

There was also supposed to be a 65" Seiki 4K UHDTV in the fall.

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Seiki SE39UY04 39 Inch LED 4K 120hz Ultra HDTV

http://www.buydig.com/shop/product....catargetid=1889113596&cadevice=c&&cagpspn=pla
 
Can you use 2xHDMI for 60hz on this one?
 
Prima.Vera said:
Can you use 2xHDMI for 60hz on this one?
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I don't know enough about the Seiki SE39UY04 39" 4K monitor to say but the price and previous example of the Seiki SE50UY04 would suggest otherwise.

Simply put, a 4K monitor (UHDTV) at 39" and ~$699 is something the industry as a whole is lucky to have. I personally wouldn't look this particular gift horse too hard in it's (most likely) 30Hz limited mouth,...... :)

I'm seriously considering getting one for desktop use and possibly even the Seiki 50" or 65" 4K,......(as I would like a bigger HDTV).

But then again gaming isnt my only goal.
 
Exactly what cable connections are required to drive this thing with a single Titan? Frame rate limited?
 
Octavean said:
Also take note that Seiki has announced a 39" 4K UHDTV for ~$699. It will almost certainly be limited to 30Hz refresh rate but the price is hard to pass up on,.....

Pre-orders were supposed to start in late June at Sears online.

There was also supposed to be a 65" Seiki 4K UHDTV in the fall.

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Seiki SE39UY04 39 Inch LED 4K 120hz Ultra HDTV

http://www.buydig.com/shop/product....catargetid=1889113596&cadevice=c&&cagpspn=pla
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The day gamers wittle themselves down to 30hz 4K gaming is the day I'll eat my own hat in surrender that things are going down the toilet :D

I can understand people saying that with everything maxed out with AA and SSAO on 4K is going to slow things down alot, and many saying that eye candy anti-jaggies options wont be used on 4K because of its high quality. But you know, people like to say "yeah my rig can run anything on max". When people start buying these things, they'll have to say "yeah I can run most of the settings on high with zero anti-jaggies".
I still believe jaggies will be present on 4K in some situations. I also dont believe many devs will make games for 4K in the near future, perhaps futher along the timeline maybe.
I dont know what it is, everyone is all excited about 4K, but the idea to me just smells slightly fishy, as if its some kind of rushed gimmick they're giving us. Maybe I'm just paranoid and overly withdrawn about the idea of 4K at this point. Especially because of the cost, and the still high cost of 1200+ monitors.
 
I hear what you are saying,....believe me,....

I'm still willing to try it and as I said I'm not only interested in gaming. I might buy and try an Asus PQ321 as well but again I don't have a one track mind with a focus only on gaming.

From my perspective looking and lusting after 4K monitors with a gaming centric focus is like someone lusting after a GTX Titan for web surfing or data entry,....
 
radrok said:
Not sure if you're serious

one is IGZO and the other is S-MVA
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IGZO is a semiconducting material not a TFT technology. Forget the marketing non-sense crap.

/nvm
 
You don't seem to get the point w/e. Don't worry.
 
Sure I don't get the point on how a 50" TV can costs almost x3 times less than a 32" monitor. I don't think the image quality on the Asus monitor is x2.5 times better than the one of that TV.
 
Prima.Vera said:
Sure I don't get the point on how a 50" TV can costs almost x3 times less than a 32" monitor. I don't think the image quality on the Asus monitor is x2.5 times better than the one of that TV.
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Higher pixel density does cost more money to produce. Pixels on a 50" screen are going to be much larger than pixels a 30" screen if the resolution is the same. The cost to produce a TV is different than the cost to produce a 30" display. Consider for a moment that you have to cram everything from that 50" into something that is almost half the size. Miniaturization costs money, not to mention the cost to the consumer for a decent profit margin, but that's not all of it.
 
Aquinus said:
Higher pixel density does cost more money to produce. Pixels on a 50" screen are going to be much larger than pixels a 30" screen if the resolution is the same. The cost to produce a TV is different than the cost to produce a 30" display. Consider for a moment that you have to cram everything from that 50" into something that is almost half the size. Miniaturization costs money, not to mention the cost to the consumer for a decent profit margin, but that's not all of it.
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So in other words a phone display with 450PPI (5" - 1080p) should cost as much as a car.
(4K on 32" is "only" 170PPI btw...)
 
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...but you're also talking about a panel that is only 5" big. Bigger panel with same pixel density is going to cost more to make.
 
to add to Aquinus' post, not only that, but with a larger panel size, when retaining the pixel density, the price grows almost exponentially, not linearly. The same is true in reverse.
 
Seems like to get 60Hz it has to be handled like two separate monitors, even on DP 1.2

Doesn't surprise me since is the same monitor as the Sharp

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Picture from OCN
 
cdawall said:
It is however supported by dual link dvi...curious if it is a dual connection.
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Probably dual, since it requires 4x the bandwidth of a 1920x1080@60 or 2x the bandwidth of 1920x1080@120
Since 1920x1080@120 is already near the upper bandwidth limit of a dual-link DVI, simple math says it would need 2x DL-DVI cables.

EDIT: That also implies a single DL-DVI cable should be enough for 3840x2160@30
 
I read on another forums guys :


While the GeForce can output 4K@60Hz and a single DisplayPort cable can carry 4k@60hz without MST, there is currently no 4k display in existence that can input 4K@60Hz over one cable without MST. There are no single chip 4k@60z timing controllers (TCons) on the market.

The Sharp/Asus 4K display gets around this lack of silicon by having two dp1.2/hdmi1.4 TCons each of which is capable of doing 4K/2 @ 60hz. It contains a built in 2 port MST hub which lets you use a single displayport cable to feed these two TCons.
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So basically DP 1.2 can drive 4k at 60Hz but there is not controller capable :banghead:
 
I wonder what kind of cables, controllers and ports will use the Japanese for their 8K@120Hz TVs!! :))
 
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