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Try a hd5450 for graphics, they are usually 30 bucks and maybe a g530
 
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Intel...

Recommended changes:
-Fractal Design Core 1000 for the case
-Seasonic G Series 360W SSR-360GP for the power supply
-add low end video card such as nVidia GT 630 if you can fit it in budget
 

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Intel...

Recommended changes:
-Fractal Design Core 1000 for the case
-Seasonic G Series 360W SSR-360GP for the power supply
-add low end video card such as nVidia GT 630 if you can fit it in budget

Fractal Design Core 1000 isn't sold here in Australia, the Seasonic PSU costs $30 more, ill ask him if he wants to add another card, since he is on a very tight budget.
 
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The AMD route would be the better option for his requirements since it is just browsing the web and watching movies.
 

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The AMD route would be the better option for his requirements since it is just browsing the web and watching movies.

I know but i am a little worried since the AMD dual cores are a bit pathetic, my friend has a phenom II X2 and it can barely play 1080p video.
 
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fractal design core 1000 isn't sold here in australia, the seasonic psu costs $30 more, ill ask him if he wants to add another card, since he is on a very tight budget.
ok :)
 

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Spend the extra $16 for the A6 5400k and you should be fine for that usage ;)

*Note- you can update the system in the future to the 6800k, which would be a significant step up!
 
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I know but i am a little worried since the AMD dual cores are a bit pathetic, my friend has a phenom II X2 and it can barely play 1080p video.

That doesn't sound right, I can run 1080P on my single core :wtf:

Ive built a AMD system using that same CPU and yes it isnt fast but does the job well and has better GPU over the intel.

Ill find a link on youtube that shows the two.

AMD Productivity Paradox -- AMD A4 vs Intel Pentiu...
 
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I know but i am a little worried since the AMD dual cores are a bit pathetic, my friend has a phenom II X2 and it can barely play 1080p video.

Bollocks. Even a single core Athlon can play 1080p video.
 

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I know but i am a little worried since the AMD dual cores are a bit pathetic, my friend has a phenom II X2 and it can barely play 1080p video.

probably because his GPU is from the 90s.
 

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of those two, the AMD build is the better option

AMD CPU and the integrated GPU is more than enough for browsing and 1080p videos. It's perfectly balanced

Intel CPU has more CPU power, but shit Integrated Graphics. you wouldn't notice the slight increase in performance in your web browsing(compared to AMD) but you would notice the lack of graphics power.

AMD CPU if you have no dedicated GPU
Intel CPU if you have a dedicated GPU
 

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I'd rather have the Intel. You don't need a better gpu if you aren't playing games and the cpu is fast enough to play HD content without acceleration. The AMD would only be faster at video acceleration, the Intel will be faster at absolutely everything else.
 
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I am building my friend a PC, the PC price comes to the exact same price, which should I get? The AMD would have better integrated GPU but a crap CPU but the reverse for the Intel, he will be just browsing the web and watching 1080p movies on it.

https://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=wish_lists&wlcId=198695&action=wish_lists

or

https://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=wish_lists&wlcId=198696&action=wish_lists

Change the memory, 4GB isn't a lot of ram these days. 8GB would be my minimum.

If your mate is the type of person that never upgrades his rig until its on its last legs and needs replacing don't feel afraid to buy 16GB of RAM.


I know but i am a little worried since the AMD dual cores are a bit pathetic, my friend has a phenom II X2 and it can barely play 1080p video.

The Phenom II X2 can handle anything. His GPU was probably too old or he lacked RAM or had another bottleneck.
 
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APU's are specifically built for budget PC's. The A6 is a good processor, and will last long enough for vidya watching.
If your friend is likely to buy a GPU in a year or 2 years time to game, then go Intel. If not, just buy the cheap AMD APU system.
16GB of RAM is entirely insane, 8GB should be an absolute maximum, but 4GB is fine for web browsing and vidya watching. Think budget. RAM isnt cheap these days.
 
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You could buy 8GB, but not 16GB. neither of these processors will fully utilize the RAM. 8 is good for some head room, but unless you're photo shopping, virtually running some systems, you don't need more then 8GB.

You could better choose some higher clocked ram than more. because the igpu will use the ram to process everything.

:rolleyes:
 
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You could buy 8GB, but not 16GB. neither of these processors will fully utilize the RAM. 8 is good for some head room, but unless you're photo shopping, virtually running some systems, you don't need more then 8GB.

You could better choose some higher clocked ram than more. because the igpu will use the ram to process everything.

:rolleyes:

That is OK for us guys who are happy to upgrade the RAM every year. But when you're building for less technical friends whom hold on to their rigs for 5,6,7 years until the PC is falling apart you can't count on 4GB or even 8GB being enough. 5,6,7 ago we all thought 2GB would be enough forever.
 
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You got a point there. I have 8GB at the moment, and not even fast. I use it for visualization and such. I'm browsing and editing thing in word right now, and i have some peaks to 3 GB but not more than that. Also, the 16 GB is not to compare with the other components that he will buy. a stronger cpu is way more important than 8GB extra that the cpu wont use/doesn't have to.
 
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AMD Apu are good for bang for bucks ... intel i3 ? joke? under Intel i3? worse joke? even a second hand A10-5800k is golden

proc part is on par with the Phenom II X4 965 BE wich isnt half bad and the GPU part is way more reliable than inte HD even with haswell (if the price was right ...)

the 3rd system in my system spec cost me near your price of 447$ or even less, allways consider 2nds hands specially when they give you the "inclued original shop bill and 1yrs and a half warranty" :D

dont misunderstand me i find intel good but on the lower priced cpu they are good for fileserver and sometime movies ... but APU does it just ... better

with the A10-5800K i can run on the APU with med to high setting not only old games but nearly all the games i play, also you can add a 6670 to hybride CF with it but i wouldnt recommende it ... since a disabled 7660D with a "real" 7950 in place is more profitable (also that 7950 make my APU rig cost me 150$ more than yours)

i know good deals are not easy to find, and pc shop tend to say "new is better mor warranty and less hassle", well ... i never run into a problem i couldnt solve with that rig or any of my other rigs.

I'd rather have the Intel. You don't need a better gpu if you aren't playing games and the cpu is fast enough to play HD content without acceleration. The AMD would only be faster at video acceleration, the Intel will be faster at absolutely everything else.

and a normal user wouldnt notice it since what he want is video and internet. but with the APU he would have a upper hand on the "pentium G" if it comes to light gamming without dedicated GPU
 
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At the moment, I'm using a Intel g860. I play battlefield 3 and all my other games at 1920x1200 fine, I wouldn't exactly call it a joke. Admittedly I expected it to be crap, but in everything I do with my PC it is fine.
 
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At the moment, I'm using a Intel g860. I play battlefield 3 and all my other games at 1920x1200 fine, I wouldn't exactly call it a joke. Admittedly I expected it to be crap, but in everything I do with my PC it is fine.

indeed i admit that, but im pretty tired of "AMD is crap" thing i see all the time ... both are good the pricing is a bit more fine with AMD tho ... but intel proc are good from base, i just dont like the "intel" pricing (and i had some intel rigs before what i have now.)
 
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At the moment, I'm using a Intel g860. I play battlefield 3 and all my other games at 1920x1200 fine, I wouldn't exactly call it a joke. Admittedly I expected it to be crap, but in everything I do with my PC it is fine.

I think the general idea is that you have a dedicated GPU though, whereas this guy wont.
 
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