Skylake 6600 vs 6600k

[taox]

If i dont over clock and i get the 6600. will the notice a different while gaming?
6600 3.3ghz turbo 3.9ghz
6600k 3.5ghz turbo 3.9ghz

 

[FordGT90Concept]

6600K is 4.0 GHz, 4.2 GHz turbo.

I think that 700 MHz will only make a difference on really old, single-threaded games. Modern games, it won't matter because they'll use 3-4 cores and the GPU will bottleneck before the CPU.

 

[taox]

6600K is 4.0 GHz, 4.2 GHz turbo.

I think that 700 MHz will only make a difference on really old, single-threaded games. Modern games, it won't matter because they'll use 3-4 cores and the GPU will bottleneck before the CPU.

Those ghz are for the i7 6700k

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Ohhh, my bad.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/88188,88191

200 MHz isn't much and the TDP on the 6600 is 65w versus 91w. 6600 also has several business technologies implemented that 6600K does not.

There's absolutely no reason to get 6600K if you never intend to overclock. 6600 all the way.

 

[GhostRyder]

If i dont over clock and i get the 6600. will the notice a different while gaming?
6600 3.3ghz turbo 3.9ghz
6600k 3.5ghz turbo 3.9ghz

As he said, not any reason to get it as you will likely not see any difference (Even if you did it would be a very small percentage).

 

[thebluebumblebee]

There's absolutely no reason to get 6600K if you never intend to overclock. 6600 all the way.

There is one - resale value.

 

[Schmuckley]

If you don't overclock you will not notice a difference.
If you get the K and overclock you will notice a massive difference.
There's games that don't even run smooth at less than 4.4Ghz.

 

[CjStaal]

If you don't overclock you will not notice a difference.
If you get the K and overclock you will notice a massive difference.
There's games that don't even run smooth at less than 4.4Ghz.

Bullshit. What games then?

 

[the54thvoid]

There's games that don't even run smooth at less than 4.4Ghz.

Coming from a 4.2 OC on a sandy CPU, I call you on that one. Utter nonsense.

Unless you mean on the iGPU, in which case, its not the best for taxing gaming.

 

[Frick]

There is one - resale value.

This is actually a very valid point. Sandy Bridge i5's can be had for about €40, the K versions are at least twice that. Sandy i7k's are at least +€100.

 

[Schmuckley]

Bullshit. What games then?

Crysis,Bethesda games,Rockstar games.
Any heavy "real" games.
You could be missing out on up to 30+ FPS if you don't overclock.
I'll throw in ARMA variants, too.
Bioshock..Wolfenstein..Metro..
Any real game.
You can cry all you want.It is the way it is.
You play @ 3.3 and I'll play @ 4.4 ok?
It's not like I haven't experienced this first hand-yesterday.

 

[taox]

ok guys i bought the 6600k for $246 including tax. i could of saved over $25 if i bought the 6600 on newegg taxfree+promo
i read somewhere it says oc cpu wont really help gaming. its just about bragging, for fun etc. anyway if i oc the cpu to 4.4 can i leave the voltage alone?

 

[Schmuckley]

ok guys i bought the 6600k for $246 including tax. i could of saved over $25 if i bought the 6600 on newegg taxfree+promo
i read somewhere it says oc cpu wont really help gaming. its just about bragging, for fun etc. anyway if i oc the cpu to 4.4 can i leave the voltage alone?

You may need to bump voltage.OC does really help gaming.It's not about bragging;It's about smooth gameplay.

 

[cadaveca]

ok guys i bought the 6600k for $246 including tax. i could of saved over $25 if i bought the 6600 on newegg taxfree+promo
i read somewhere it says oc cpu wont really help gaming. its just about bragging, for fun etc. anyway if i oc the cpu to 4.4 can i leave the voltage alone?

50-50 chance.

Crysis,Bethesda games,Rockstar games.
Any heavy "real" games.
You could be missing out on up to 30+ FPS if you don't overclock.
I'll throw in ARMA variants, too.
Bioshock..Wolfenstein..Metro..
Any real game.
You can cry all you want.It is the way it is.
You play @ 3.3 and I'll play @ 4.4 ok?
It's not like I haven't experienced this first hand-yesterday.

Games are designed for multiple CPUs, and the actual requirements are listed on the package of any game. No game asks for 4.4 GHz. Some titles will get a benefit from added CPU power, sure, but requiring it? Absolutely not.

You may need to bump voltage.OC does really help gaming.It's not about bragging;It's about smooth gameplay.

That points to other problems in your system. I game pretty regularly with no OC, and very rarely do I notice the difference of a few added FPS.

BTW, my current gaming rig has a 6700K with dual GTX 980, and because I notice no difference with added CPU clocks, I run the system at stock, because I can use lower fan speeds.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

Only game I have ever seen benefit in every way from an Overclock has been the Total War series. Its the only series of games where an Overclock really does mean playable vs unplayable in certain situations.

 

[Schmuckley]

50-50 chance.



Games are designed for multiple CPUs, and the actual requirements are listed on the package of any game. No game asks for 4.4 GHz. Some titles will get a benefit from added CPU power, sure, but requiring it? Absolutely not.



That points to other problems in your system. I game pretty regularly with no OC, and very rarely do I notice the difference of a few added FPS.

BTW, my current gaming rig has a 6700K with dual GTX 980, and because I notice no difference with added CPU clocks, I run the system at stock, because I can use lower fan speeds.

Ok,Do you play Fallout?
If I let my comp go to sleep;It goes back to stock..for some reason..
And if i wake it up and try to game.It's terribad.
Yeah,stock frequencies suck for gaming.
What problems do I have with my system?
It's a 5820k @ 4.6ghz with 16gb ddr4 2800 @14-15-15-341 2t on a x99 OC Champion.Where is the weak link?
Oh and a HD 7950

 

[cadaveca]

Ok,Do you play Fallout?
If I let my comp go to sleep;It goes back to stock..for some reason..
And if i wake it up and try to game.It's terribad.
Yeah,stock frequencies suck for gaming.
What problems do I have with my system?
It's a 5820k @ 4.6ghz with 16gb ddr4 2800 @14-15-15-341 2t on a x99 OC Champion.Where is the weak link?
Oh and a HD 7950

Probably the 7950. ROFL. Nevermind that Fallout4 is a bit buggy, and needs a few matches before reaching real "AAA" quality.

Anyway, you need a 980 or a 390X to understand what I mean. Your GPU is quite dated for modern titles. Its the same as CPU OC, if it is needed it points to something else as the problem.

Like you mentioned Rockstar games earlier... but GTAV has to be one of the best optimized games in history. My son played it on a mid-grade laptop from 3 years ago with decent framerates.


With a single 980, I get 60+ FPS in nearly everything. My system would have a CPU bottleneck, given I have less CPU power, but more GPU power than you, but I have yet to experience it. You also have a bottleneck... your GPU.

You do also need to keep in mind that my old gaming rig was a 5930K that clocks to 5 GHz, with 3200 MHz memory Oc'd to 3300.

I'm not saying the added CPU power is useless, quite the contrary. But the fact of the matter remains that OC is not needed to game with reasonable framerates. Changing settings in the game can also give you reasonable framerates.

 

[Schmuckley]

No,You are wrong sir.The GPU I'm using can run any game on highest settings.
The factor is the CPU clock.
When it's lower;about 37 fps.
OC'd well? smooth as silk.
I even downclock my GPU because it's not necessary.
"need 980" bite me.For fact #1 That just is not true.
I could do it with a 5870 2gb or 7870 2gb..
Maybe a gtx 770;too
Should be able to run Fallout 3 @ highest settings.
I can drum up a few other GPUs that should be able to do it, too.
For 1:780 Ti;For another: 560 Ti 2gb

 

[cadaveca]

No,You are wrong sir.The GPU I'm using can run any game on highest settings.
The factor is the CPU clock.
When it's lower;about 37 fps.
OC'd well? smooth as silk.
I even downclock my GPU because it's not necessary.
"need 980" bite me.For fact #1 That just is not true.
I could do it with a 5870 2gb or 7870 2gb..
Maybe a gtx 770.

I run benchmarks so often, both stock and OC, you'll have a hard time convincing me. Top answer why OC benefits you so well with a GPU from a couple of years ago? Driver draw call problems. Hence the whole "Mantle" usefulness. I have used a 7950 before, am quite familiar with them. I kept a Matrix 7970 and have it running in a rig still, too. I have many rigs, and bench them all regularly.

 

[Schmuckley]

I run benchmarks so often, both stock and OC, you'll have a hard time convincing me. Top answer why OC benefits you so well with a GPU from a couple of years ago? Driver draw call problems. Hence the whole "Mantle" usefulness. I have used a 7950 before, am quite familiar with them. I kept a Matrix 7970 and have it running in a rig still, too. I have many rigs, and bench them all regularly.

Yeah,wanna bet I've run more than you? Go ahead and run Fallout 3 @ 3.3 Ghz on any cpu and let me know how well that goes for you.
I want livestream action.You can use a gtx 980,too,Ti even.I know what will happen.
Without the CPU backbone..the GPU will falter.
That's how it is.Try it.

 

[cadaveca]

Meh. Works fine on my system, other than the bugs that users have complained about for this title specifically.

That's the thing, not every game behaves the same way. So to make a blanket statement to say "you need 4.4 GHz" doesn't make sense to me. you are right that a good CPU helps for sure, even 3.3 GHz on AMD vs Intel is the obvious way to example that. But that does not mean it is required. Fallout3 launched in 2008, and STILL has bugs. You need a better example as to why 4.4 GHz is required for gaming.

 

[dorsetknob]

going off topic now i see
Popcorn ready for the bitch fight

 

[cadaveca]

going off topic now i see
Popcorn ready for the bitch fight

Nope.

OP:

ok guys i bought the 6600k for $246 including tax. i could of saved over $25 if i bought the 6600 on newegg taxfree+promo
i read somewhere it says oc cpu wont really help gaming. its just about bragging, for fun etc. anyway if i oc the cpu to 4.4 can i leave the voltage alone?

 

[Schmuckley]

4.4 GHZ or you're blowing smoke

 

[Eric_Cartman]

There's games that don't even run smooth at less than 4.4Ghz.

Wow, I haven't seen anything that was that stupid since...IKD, but I'm sure it was one of your other posts.

You can't name a single game that requires 4.4GHz to run smoothly, because there isn't one.

Stop trolling already, we're getting tired of it.