RX 480/470/460 Owners Club

[Ungari]

Managed to get over 15100 graphics score with 1450/2250 Mhz on my Nitro. It goes even higher but my score falls when i put more mhz on the core so it seems thats it.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10988053

That is very nice for the current chips sold to us consumers, but there are Polaris chips capable of much better, they just aren't being sold to us yet as the the yields are too low to supply both commercial and consumer customers.
As the manufacturing process improves, and there is evidence to suggest it has, there may very well be enough of these high-binned chips to sell to us consumers.

 

[Ungari]

I was going to add that caveat to my question but I forgot to. Yeah aren't they sub $200 for the full fledged chip at least the 4gb one is I'm not certain about the 8 gig
I can Google the prices though

It seems like a lot of the sales I come across more for either 470's or the 4 GB versions of the 480s likely caused by people choosing the better video card which leaves the items they put on sale

Polaris video card prices have been going down in general as the availability is no longer an issue, and I predict they will go down further as the higher tier is released. But it's not just about availability, now that Nvidia has entered the sub-$300 market, people are now buying the 1060 3GB, 1050Ti, and 1050 overwhelmingly over Polaris even though they are inferior.
Many would have gone with the mid-range RX 490 had it been released, and now will dump their cards on the used market.
Two days ago, I saw a 1342Mhz Nitro+ for $10 more than the Reference Card!

 

[OneMoar]

get the 1060 its faster then the 470 even the 3GB version of the 1060 handily beats the 470
the 1060 walks all over the 470/480 in every single game across the board and uses less power and runs cooler doing so

 

[jboydgolfer]

get the 1060 its faster then the 470 even the 3GB version of the 1060 handily beats the 470
the 1060 walks all over the 470/480 in every single game across the board and uses less power and runs cooler doing so

Oh wow really? I was genuinely not aware of that fact, of course I suppose I could do a bit more research in regards to Nvidia's newest offerings. The only card Nvidia makes that I've looked into is the 1050 TI, but the price difference from the 470 was minimal at best $20 I think maybe $30, So I started to consider the 470 and the 480

 

[OneMoar]

the 470 isn't even in the same class as the 1060
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X_3_GB/8.html

amd relies on mantle/dx12 heavily to make there gpu's work as intended when thats not available the slower hardware of Polaris really shows
and even when it is available the 1060's overall faster hardware picks up the slack http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_1_pc_graphics_benchmark_review,6.html

for all the advantages that DX12/vulkan offer it only serves to just let amd catchup overall there chips are slower do the the lower rop/tmu count,compute power only takes you so far in the era of poorly optimized console ports

 

[Ungari]

get the 1060 its faster then the 470 even the 3GB version of the 1060 handily beats the 470
the 1060 walks all over the 470/480 in every single game across the board and uses less power and runs cooler doing so

Not even reviewers sponsored by Nvidia make that claim.

 

[P4-630]

and uses less power and runs cooler doing so

It's disappointing how much power these new AMD cards use even though it's on 14nm (it has always been like this with AMD GPU's/CPU's as far as I know).
I wonder how much power nvidia could save if they were using 14nm...

 

[jboydgolfer]

the 470 isn't even in the same class as the 1060
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X_3_GB/8.html

amd relies on mantle/dx12 heavily to make there gpu's work as intended when thats not available the slower hardware of Polaris really shows
and even when it is available the 1060's overall faster hardware picks up the slack

30FPS @ 1080p is nothing to scoff @ ....damn. and @ $189 for the 1060 (cheapest one i found quickly) & $160 for the 470 that $30= 30 FPS.

It's disappointing how much power these new AMD cards use

yeah it looks high to me, but im just starting to look into the specs of both AMD and Nvidias current GPU's

 

[OneMoar]

if all you play is doom by all means buy the amd card
if you wanna run all the games buy the nvidia card, all that being said I would swing for the 1060 6GB
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_1_pc_graphics_benchmark_review,6.html < so much for DX12 'saving' amd

 

[Ungari]

It's disappointing how much power these new AMD cards use even though it's on 14nm (it has always been like this with AMD GPU's/CPU's as far as I know).
I wonder how much power nvidia could save if they were using 14nm...

We are talking pennies a day.
But if you look at the highest binned Polaris for the commercial market, they have ratings of 95W, 75W, 50W, corresponding to the consumer 480, 470, and 460 respectively.
As the yields improve to supply us consumers, you will see the true nature of Polaris in all it's glory!

 

[jboydgolfer]

We are talking pennies a day.
But if you look at the highest binned Polaris for the commercial market, they have ratings of 95W, 75W, 50W, corresponding to the consumer 480, 470, and 460 respectively.

yeah i just saw that. the RX 470 seems to be right around 75 watts , which is right where the 1050Ti is too iirc.

 

[OneMoar]

slow card is slow amd needs DX12/vulkan to stay competitive with nvidia it doesn't really matter because there arch is so much better
on paper the 1060 wins the numbers contest and in games it manages to best the 480 in 70% of benchmarks of games people accually play

 

[OneMoar]

We are talking pennies a day.
But if you look at the highest binned Polaris for the commercial market, they have ratings of 95W, 75W, 50W, corresponding to the consumer 480, 470, and 460 respectively.
As the yields improve to supply us consumers, you will see the true nature of Polaris in all it's glory!

NOPE
never going to happen gloflo sucks to hard maby in 3 years but by then it will be a moot point

 

[Ungari]

NOPE
never going to happen gloflo sucks to hard maby in 3 years but by then it will be a moot point

It might just be the RX 490 and not VEGA like many think it is!
Wait a couple of weeks. LOOL

 

[P4-630]

 

[cdawall]

if all you play is doom by all means buy the amd card
if you wanna run all the games buy the nvidia card, all that being said I would swing for the 1060 6GB
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_1_pc_graphics_benchmark_review,6.html < so much for DX12 'saving' amd

That games implementation is very well listed as being absolute fucking garbage. This is a know issue that's all over the web.

NOPE
never going to happen gloflo sucks to hard maby in 3 years but by then it will be a moot point

It's already happening in months, not years.

get the 1060 its faster then the 470 even the 3GB version of the 1060 handily beats the 470
the 1060 walks all over the 470/480 in every single game across the board and uses less power and runs cooler doing so

No it doesn't? It is better than the bone stock AMD PCB cards with the AMD cooler yes, but they are all pretty even with custom PCB's

Do you have any other trolling to do in the thread specifically for polaris cards?

 

[F-Zero]

If somebody is interested in this test GTX 1060 vs. RX 480 - An Updated Review.

 

[KainXS]

hmmm I picked up a RX 480 Gaming X gaming and does anyone know if spikes up to 250W is normal on RX 480's without touching the voltages or clocks. The card seems to use more power than the other RX 480's for some reason. I checked the bios and it seems that MSI set the tdc and max power limit much much higher than that of any other RX 480's on the Gaming cards, both are set to 180. Even the XFX black and Asus Strix are not set even close to being that high. The average is about 141ish but the spikes are up to 250.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

if your just in this thread to bash AMD cause you own a 10xx then please leave. We dont come into the gtx 1080/70 clubhouse and $hit on your threads.

 

[cdawall]

hmmm I picked up a RX 480 Gaming X gaming and does anyone know if spikes up to 250W is normal on RX 480's without touching the voltages or clocks. The card seems to use more power than the other RX 480's for some reason. I checked the bios and it seems that MSI set the tdc and max power limit much much higher than that of any other RX 480's on the Gaming cards, both are set to 180. Even the XFX black and Asus Strix are not set even close to being that high. The average is about 141ish but the spikes are up to 250.

That looks about the same as the graph my sapphire kicks out.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

who grabbed the ReLive drivers? i've just installed them

 

[F-Zero]

Just installed them, working great !

 

[Steve-007UK]

Installed as soon as they showed up and so far so good

BTW @AlienIsGOD any chance you can add me to the list when you have time please.

Current setttings i use as shown in the pic.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

Installed as soon as they showed up and so far so good

BTW @AlienIsGOD any chance you can add me to the list when you have time please.

Current setttings i use as shown in the pic.
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edit function is disabled, i need to wait until a mod or W1z fixes it

Also my install only says partially installed, ReLive software isnt in Radeon Settings can anyone help?

 

[Steve-007UK]

edit function is disabled, i need to wait until a mod or W1z fixes it

Also my install only says partially installed, ReLive software isnt in Radeon Settings can anyone help?

It asked me in a diff window if i wanted to install ReLive and i also did a clean install beforehand.