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Request: Bring back clubs perhaps with some changes.

Do you support less intrusive clubs?


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I'm sorry, but I voted no. This is a tech website, not facebook. I'm fine with "clubs" here on TPU, but they should be tech related.
 
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it's a wet tech website apparently. Facebook groups are full of vitriol and drama. TPU clubs are not.
 

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This is a serious thing. The community and the way the site is as a whole could very well be changing. This is a bit of a long winded post, however, there will be no TL;DR here, as all things need to be carefully considered.

Whenever there is a disagreement, I try to understand all sides of the argument, and I see both sides of this argument. Not necessarily applying to only "less intrusive" clubs, but clubs in general, and even the old General Nonsense subforum (not the separate site it is today).

Many members of the community wish to keep the club forums the way they were. There were a number of somewhat off-topic (that is, not strictly pertaining to the scope of TPU as a whole) clubs, now closed, which many members wish to remain open. These areas of the forum were a great place for forum members to get together and talk about their interests, on another level beyond the cut and dry, strictly on-topic postings of the other sections.

On the other side, we have the moderators. Based on what I've seen so far, they take no issue with any of the above; however, that sort of off-topic banter is spilling over from the club threads into other areas of the forum, where it should not be. Add that to the plethora of reported posts, members acting up, serious threads being derailed (whether caused by the aforementioned "clubhouse mentality" or not), and whatever other issues they have to tackle, and it's a lot for them.

So where do I stand? All things considered, what is my opinion? As one of the older, active members here, I've always seen TPU as a great forum to be a part of. In fact, this forum is the only place I've continually stayed active at for such a long time. Anybody could come here, and with the help of our community, could solve nearly any computer related issue they were having; moreover, there was a sense of a community beyond that. It wasn't a cut and dry forum, strictly on topic all the time. I want TPU to be a place where we can not only be a great tech forum, but have that relaxed community, where, for lack of better words, it isn't so uptight. I feel that we should have a clubhouse subforum the way we did, not only for tech related things (Ryzen clubhouse, Xeon clubhouse, etc) but also for things not so tech related (UK clubhouse, Anime Nation, etc).

So, how do we achieve this? The administration made this push towards the stricter side (not after much discussion) because of everything they have to deal with already, with the addition of that sort of off-topic banter being thrown about in places where it doesn't belong. We, as the community (not any one, or handful of specific members, but as a whole) need to shape up. We all need to have the maturity to handle ourselves in such a manner that isn't creating a big mess for the mods to have to come in and clean up after us all the time. Stay reasonably on topic in serious threads. Be kind and respectful to one another. Don't bring clubhouse types of posts to other areas of the forum where they don't belong.

If the General Nonsense subforum was still a part of TPU, I would be advocating for that too; however, that's already done and over with, but the same argument would apply., which is generally keeping that stuff where it belongs, staying inside the lines in all other areas of the forum, and being kind and respectful to all other members. Although General Nonsense is different from clubhouses, I believe it could be tweaked a bit to remove it from being deeply integrated with the rest of TPU as a whole, but still be a part of the main site, with all the same members of TPU being able to come together and share our off topic discussions. The point is, if we want this to be that kind of laid back community, it's up to us to be able to handle it. If we can't handle it, then unfortunately, that's not what it will be.
 
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If the General Nonsense subforum was still a part of TPU, I would be advocating for that too; however, that's already done and over with, but the same argument would apply., which is generally keeping that stuff where it belongs, staying inside the lines in all other areas of the forum, and being kind and respectful to all other members. Although General Nonsense is different from clubhouses, I believe it could be tweaked a bit to remove it from being deeply integrated with the rest of TPU as a whole, but still be a part of the main site, with all the same members of TPU being able to come together and share our off topic discussions. The point is, if we want this to be that kind of laid back community, it's up to us to be able to handle it. If we can't handle it, then unfortunately, that's not what it will be.

My opinion all along. The "dark" TPU, unseen to all but those who enter it.
 

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I find the label "General Nonsense" insulting to my intelligence. What is that meant to convey? As if anything and everything not 100% PC tech related is somehow automatically nonsense? WTF? That's dumb. Give it a new name and I might consider checking it out or posting something there. GN is stupid. And apparently its unpopularity speaks to that being true.
That's possibly why it's separate to TPU, has different Moderating staff and requires registering separately, I just checked, the last time I was there was 2010 I think! To be fair I don't really have the time to frequent that place anyway :)
 
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Why not make a spin off, so it is a win win for everyone? Put its main page same as TPU'S main page, then have another link for clubs? Sorta let it fly on its own, I assume someone would have to be a care taker for it but...........
 

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Please... STOP TALKING ABOUT THE CLUBS! This is not up for debate... This is a tech forum and all of the clubs that were closed were NON tech related.. Please stop...
 
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Just rename all the removed clubs, Fight Club, maybe then people will stop talking about them, thems the rules.
 

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Actually, according to the mods, it currently is up for discussion. "Threads were closed, the staff is still discussing it, make reasons to keep it! "

Some of us like coming to TPU not just for the RAM timing specs of the newest sticks, or to see what the Green/Red civil war has wrought today, but to enjoy each other's company, and share things that we have in common. That doesn't mean we need to act like asshats in the process, and most don't.

If the clubs bother you that much, please. Just like the rest of the internet, don't click it if you don't want to see it.... "Please stop" indeed.....
 
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Please... STOP TALKING ABOUT THE CLUBS! This is not up for debate... This is a tech forum and all of the clubs that were closed were NON tech related.. Please stop...

They speak the truth. We're trying to work on a compromise.
 

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They speak the truth. We're trying to work on a compromise.
And this is one of many things that continues to make TPU a great place to be. Honestly, W1zzard and the moderators have every right to do whatever they please here, offer zero explanation, and leave whatever decision they make as final because "they run this shit", but no, in situations like this they're open and willing to work with what the community wants.
 
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well considering only 31 people have voted in 4 days, and the size of the TPU community, is this really an issue that needs the Mod's time?
 
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well considering only 31 people have voted in 4 days, and the size of the TPU community, is this really an issue that needs the Mod's time?
Well as of right now there are 6,773 people visiting the site and only 77 of those are members. Then it becomes a question of how many of those may be casual members and then how many members we have in total that actually log in regularly and contribute to the community. 31 might not seem like a lot of votes but who those votes come from make a difference regardless of how they voted. I'm sure plenty of casual members skipped this poll and the one on the other thread because they are here for information rather than community.
 

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What about simply renaming "General Nonsense" to something more grown up. What about " Any Other Business" (or similar.)
 
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What about simply renaming "General Nonsense" to something more grown up. What about " Any Other Business" (or similar.)

none of the staff care or support my endeavour so I wouldn't get your hopes up. very disappointed.
 

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none of the staff care or support my endeavour so I wouldn't get your hopes up. very disappointed.

So then we should just stop what we have been working on?
 

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Yes. Since the community is on TPU and not GN

Careful what you ask for here! We have been going above and beyond behind the scenes to make life easier and appreciated by members. If you all would rather just spout off and be condescending, because we are not making it happen on your timeline, we can just stop trying to please you all. Less work for us!
 

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Ran a guild as one of 5 or 7 second in commands in WoW for several years... gotta be pretty much the same to be a mod... always somebody gonna be petty above and beyond, always gonna be people that make you just not even sign in some days....
 
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I used to really like the general nonsense section, but I'm not interested in registering on another forum just for that. There needs to be a place on here that can be off-topic, it keeps more members active if they have somewhere to hang out and talk about what they want to. The clubs are good, it just needs to be better understood that what happens in clubs/off topic areas stays there and banter isn't continued in the on topic areas.

And to the people complaining about clubs and this being strictly a "tech forum"... don't subscribe to the thread and you won't get any notifications. But stop trying to take something away that other members like!

I'll go along with whatever the staff decide, I know it's not easy managing rowdy off-topic areas.
 
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I think this was a nicer place to be when there was more banter going on though, there's nowhere for that to happen now.

Time will tell for certain.hopefully for the better of the community
 

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Careful what you ask for here! We have been going above and beyond behind the scenes to make life easier and appreciated by members. If you all would rather just spout off and be condescending, because we are not making it happen on your timeline, we can just stop trying to please you all. Less work for us!

Sneeky is right, The W1Z and the mods have tolerated more mishaps than I have seen any other forum do also they go beyond that and create a equal style forum just for whatever nonsense you have. GN was created for off topic TPU's to hang out and discuss whatever. It need to be used the way W1Z wanted it.
 
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System Name TheMailbox 5.0 / The Mailbox 4.5
Processor RYZEN 1700X / Intel i7 2600k @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 / Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 TH Intel LGA 1155
Cooling MasterLiquid PRO 280 / Scythe Katana 4
Memory ADATA RGB 16GB DDR4 2666 16-16-16-39 / G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB DDR3 1866: 9-9-9-24
Video Card(s) MSI 1080 "Duke" with 8Gb of RAM. Boost Clock 1847 MHz / ASUS 780ti
Storage 256Gb M4 SSD / 128Gb Agelity 4 SSD , 500Gb WD (7200)
Display(s) LG 29" Class 21:9 UltraWide® IPS LED Monitor 2560 x 1080 / Dell 27"
Case Cooler Master MASTERBOX 5t / Cooler Master 922 HAF
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec / SupremeFX X-Fi with Bose Companion 2 speakers.
Power Supply Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750PX 750W Platinum / SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold
Mouse SteelSeries Sensei (RAW) / Logitech G5
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow / Logitech (Unknown)
Software Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
Benchmark Scores Benching is for bitches.
I'm gonna start a "Mailman Club".
 
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