Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[HTC]

No luck. It goes to black screen and then I have to reset bios for the black screen to go..

Try following the steps described here and see how it goes.

 

[SKD007]

Try following the steps described here and see how it goes.

I checked the link. Thanks... they are taking about lot of settings which I don't see on my
Msi board.i am
Thinking of replacing my board again. Not sure which msi or Asus or gigabytes board I should go for.

 

[Caring1]

Thinking of replacing my board again. Not sure which msi or Asus or gigabytes board I should go for.

Asrock Taichi

 

[Aenra]

If you can find it, i'd pick the 370 Professional Gaming in your shoes. Also ASRock.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming/index.asp
(not the taichi)

Otherwise, i'd get the Gigabyte Gaming K7.
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K7-rev-10#kf
(yes, despite what you've been reading. Given availability, i'd still go for the ASRock above though)

edit: since you made another thread about your RAM, you've probably learned this the hard way, but whatever you choose, you make damn sure you read the QVL list carefully first. They're finicky enough as it is, no reason for extra risks.

 

[SKD007]

Asrock Taichi

That's not available on Amazon. I can only buy from Amazon

 

[SKD007]

If you can find it, i'd pick the 370 Professional Gaming in your shoes. Also ASRock.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming/index.asp
(not the taichi)

Otherwise, i'd get the Gigabyte Gaming K7.
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K7-rev-10#kf
(yes, despite what you've been reading. Given availability, i'd still go for the ASRock above though)

edit: since you made another thread about your RAM, you've probably learned this the hard way, but whatever you choose, you make damn sure you read the QVL list carefully first. They're finicky enough as it is, no reason for extra risks.

ASRock is not available but yes Gigabyte is available. So gigabyte gaming k7 is good is it ? Ya ram i am trying get it replaced it as well but I think it's too late for that..

The link you posted yesterday the guy overclockef a duel rank 32GB ram to 3200 on ASRock board right. So I should be good with this ram ?

 

[Aenra]

So I should be good with this ram ?

I've had issues with RAMs on much stabler platforms, my current one included. You just can't know, not for sure, unless:
i) you try it (and if it doesn't work, you're fucked obviously)
ii) it's on the QVL list, ergo O.K., it's guaranteed then

In your shoes, i wouldn't risk it. Ryzens have issues enough as they are, no reason to compound on them.

As to the Gigabyte, assuming ASRock wasn't an option (as it isn't for you), it's what i'd --personally-- buy that right now. Personally. You will find many posters here that will advise you otherwise.

edit: In regard to OCing the RAM, no one can give you guarantees. No one. Hence the above. You might get it a lot higher (if you have the patience to mess with clocks), you might get it a bit lower, too many factors at play. There's another poster here that achieved 3600MHz on a 2400MHz mobo. You cannot know, so for this part, ignore the empirical. One man's combo isn't another's.

 

[SKD007]

I've had issues with RAMs on much stabler platforms, my current one included. You just can't know, not for sure, unless:
i) you try it (and if it doesn't work, you're fucked obviously)
ii) it's on the QVL list, ergo O.K. it's guaranteed

In your shoes, i wouldn't risk it. Ryzens have issues enough as they are, no reason to compound on them.

As to the Gigabyte, assuming ASRock wasn't an option (as it isn't for you), it's what i'd --personally-- buy that right now. Personally. You will find many posters here that will advise you otherwise.

So I should go with gigabyte x370 k7 then

Edit: will try soc voltage using RyZen master first then..

 

[Aenra]

I edited my post so as to clarify things further, please read it again.
There are two "7" Gigabyte mobos. I only recommend the one i linked above, have had one in my hands, a nephew's.

 

[SKD007]

I edited my post so as to clarify things further, please read it again.
There are two "7" Gigabyte mobos. I only recommend the one i linked above, have had one in my hands, a nephew's.

This one right ?

Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming K7 AM4 AMD X370 RGB FUSION SMART FAN 5 HDMI M.2 U.2 USB 3.1 Type-C ATX DDR4 Motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XF3R469/?tag=tec06d-20

 

[Aenra]

This one right ?

Yeap. And in case your current RAM is not in the QVL list? I'd pick this one in your shoes:
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c14d-16gfx

This one's 100% mobo compatible with your K7 (on the page linked here, select the QVL tab and expand 'Gigabyte' to verify it yourself); you can just enable "XMP" and call it a day if you can't be asked OCing it manually. 3200MHz at 14-14-14-34 out of the box is pretty damn good.

edit: I remember that in your own thread you were enquiring about 32gigs of RAM and Ryzens. With the motherboard i'm suggesting that too is 100% guaranteed with this model:
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-2400c15d-32gft

Be advised however that these run at 2400MHz and at looser timings. Pick what matters to you most
You'll be fine with either.

 

[SKD007]

Yeap. And in case your current RAM is not in the QVL list? I'd pick this one in your shoes:
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c14d-16gfx

This one's 100% mobo compatible with your K7 (on the page linked here, select the QVL tab and expand 'Gigabyte' to verify it yourself); you can just enable "XMP" and call it a day if you can't be asked OCing it manually. 3200MHz at 14-14-14-34 out of the box is pretty damn good.

edit: I remember that in your own thread you were enquiring about 32gigs of RAM and Ryzens. With the motherboard i'm suggesting that too is 100% guaranteed with this model:
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-2400c15d-32gft

Be advised however these run at 2400MHz and at looser timings.
You'll be fine with either.

I could only find

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) F4-3200C14D-16GTZ

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ACODPHI/?tag=tec06d-20

On Amazon and this is 16gb. I need 32GB as I run lot of VMs

 

[Aenra]

No no, don't. It's either 1 or 0 with these things
Look elsewhere, or start checking the Gigabyte QVL list piece by piece, see which of the models can be found in amazon.
Although your location is Florida, so i don't understand why you can only buy through Amazon, plenty of places to go and have a look. Start with newegg?

 

[SKD007]

No no, don't. It's either 1 or 0 with these things
Look elsewhere, or start checking the Gigabyte QVL list piece by piece, see which of the models can be found in amazon.
Although your location is Florida, so i don't understand why you can only buy through Amazon, plenty of places to go and have a look. Start with newegg?

The money 362$ I spend for this ram will only come back to my amazon gift wallet and I have to buy again from that lol

 

[HTC]

The money 362$ I spend for this ram will only come back to my amazon gift wallet and I have to buy again from that lol

Then, after you decide on the board, check this site: http://rymem.vraith.com/

Then pick the RAM listed for that board. You could also try doing the opposite and search a board for your current RAM.

 

[SKD007]

Then, after you decide on the board, check this site: http://rymem.vraith.com/

Then pick the RAM listed for that board. You could also try doing the opposite and search a board for your current RAM.

Ya I saw that website already. The problem is I need 32GB and it look like I don't have an option at the moment and I assume some day they will release a bios to support ram.

Motherboard I will go for Gigabyte but is there a way to get some screenshot of the k7 bios ??

 

[purecain]

are the asus boards not performing well? I thought they had a new bios which enabled 3000mhz memory+. given I don't own the chipset yet and have only read bits of info here and there.

I was looking at buying an asus board for the more familiar bios settings.

 

[HTC]

Ya I saw that website already. The problem is I need 32GB and it look like I don't have an option at the moment and I assume some day they will release a bios to support ram.

Motherboard I will go for Gigabyte but is there a way to get some screenshot of the k7 bios ??

Tried searching for a manual of that board but couldn't find one: figured it would show some BIOS pics

I know the 32 GB dual rank RAM the dude that i linked in my previous reply does do 14 CL @ 3200 but that is on the board he's using: may not be the case in other boards.

Check this video he posted of him running prime AND heaven in a loop for over 9h:

 

[purecain]

this is what had me sold on ryzen.
quote# AMD’s initial goal of a 40% IPC improvement over its previous generation would’ve put it on roughly equal grounds with Intel’s 4th and 5th generation Haswell and Broadwell CPUs.
A 12% on top of that, as today’s benchmarks evidently suggest, would put Zen ahead of Intel’s latest and greatest 6th and 7th generation Skylake and Kaby Lake microarchitectures.

taking into account kaby lake will clock higher. I still think its a good trade off for the extra 4 cores. a little less single thread speed for a whole lot more processing power overall. especially as more and more apps come multi threaded as standard.

 

[the54thvoid]

this is what had me sold on ryzen.
quote# AMD’s initial goal of a 40% IPC improvement over its previous generation would’ve put it on roughly equal grounds with Intel’s 4th and 5th generation Haswell and Broadwell CPUs.
A 12% on top of that, as today’s benchmarks evidently suggest, would put Zen ahead of Intel’s latest and greatest 6th and 7th generation Skylake and Kaby Lake microarchitectures.

taking into account kaby lake will clock higher. I still think its a good trade off for the extra 4 cores. a little less single thread speed for a whole lot more processing power overall. especially as more and more apps come multi threaded as standard.

Buy an 1800x and a 240 water cooler AIO. You'll get 4-4.1GHz. That will be close to Broadwell-E clock speeds with 8 cores.
I'm 3.9 on air, just waiting for better safe temp clarification. If you want cores, Ryzen is not just a safe bet, pound for pound it's a brilliant alternative to Intel's pricing. If you want speed, don't bother, buy a 4 core Kabylake.

 

[Johan45]

are the asus boards not performing well? I thought they had a new bios which enabled 3000mhz memory+. given I don't own the chipset yet and have only read bits of info here and there.

I was looking at buying an asus board for the more familiar bios settings.

I've been using an ASUS CHVI and it performs great. Aside from a slight hiccup initially with a bad BIOS it's been clear sailing.

 

[m&m's]

Buy an 1800x and a 240 water cooler AIO. You'll get 4-4.1GHz.

Does the 1800x really clock higher than the 1700x? From what I've seen they seem on par. The 1700 (non-x) seems to hit 3.8-3.9GHz.

 

[the54thvoid]

Does the 1800x really clock higher than the 1700x? From what I've seen they seem on par. The 1700 (non-x) seems to hit 3.8-3.9GHz.

Total conjecture but I think the 1800X's are binned for higher clocks.

 

[RealNeil]

are the asus boards not performing well? I thought they had a new bios which enabled 3000mhz memory+. given I don't own the chipset yet and have only read bits of info here and there.

I was looking at buying an Asus board for the more familiar bios settings.

I hope that they are! (that's what I just bought)
As for BIOS settings, IDK if they will be familiar using a different chipset.

I need to find the time to build my 1700X box.

I've been using an ASUS CHVI and it performs great. Aside from a slight hiccup initially with a bad BIOS it's been clear sailing.

This is good to hear.

 

[SKD007]

are the asus boards not performing well? I thought they had a new bios which enabled 3000mhz memory+. given I don't own the chipset yet and have only read bits of info here and there.

I was looking at buying an asus board for the more familiar bios settings.

I had a Asus and replaced it with msi. Asus bios won't go past 2133mhz and msi I can do 2666 and even OC 1800x to 4.2ghz with 1.47 to 1.5v on h100i 240mm tho

this is what had me sold on ryzen.
quote# AMD’s initial goal of a 40% IPC improvement over its previous generation would’ve put it on roughly equal grounds with Intel’s 4th and 5th generation Haswell and Broadwell CPUs.
A 12% on top of that, as today’s benchmarks evidently suggest, would put Zen ahead of Intel’s latest and greatest 6th and 7th generation Skylake and Kaby Lake microarchitectures.

taking into account kaby lake will clock higher. I still think its a good trade off for the extra 4 cores. a little less single thread speed for a whole lot more processing power overall. especially as more and more apps come multi threaded as standard.

I am not paying intel and I am super happy with amd. Upgraded from phenom and gta rocks now.. non of they games use more than 25 to 30%

Metro light is at 60fps lock now and was at 28 to 29 with phenom x6 1100t OC 3.8 h100i

Buy an 1800x and a 240 water cooler AIO. You'll get 4-4.1GHz. That will be close to Broadwell-E clock speeds with 8 cores.
I'm 3.9 on air, just waiting for better safe temp clarification. If you want cores, Ryzen is not just a safe bet, pound for pound it's a brilliant alternative to Intel's pricing. If you want speed, don't bother, buy a 4 core Kabylake.

Yup 1800x rocks.. no question about it. Mine clocks to 4.2 but stress test temp is 94c

Does the 1800x really clock higher than the 1700x? From what I've seen they seem on par. The 1700 (non-x) seems to hit 3.8-3.9GHz.

4.2 with 1.47 to 1.5v and stress test 94 to 95c which is 75c actual.