Is there a real way to block these injected youtube ads?

[newtekie1]

The new ones that go behind all the adblockers I've tried. It's really worrying to see that people are willing to go as far as to invent a brand new innovative kind of technology just to peddle their lame shit.
No filters or rules work, no other extensions for chrome. Privacy badger doesn't work either. These annoying grammarly and wix ads are frustrating to watch. Anyone else on the same boat here?

Yes, it is incredibly worrying that people want to get paid for their work.

I don't think ads on Youtube do any impact anymore, mainly because most of the people are blocking them, so most people on the platform started using crowdfunding.

Most of the ones I subscribe to have said the majority of their revenue still comes from Youtube itself.

 

[P4-630]

Yes, it is incredibly worrying that people want to get paid for their work.

So you enjoy watching ads?...

 

[newtekie1]

So you enjoy watching ads?...

Enjoy? No. But I do it. I have Youtube whitelisted in my ad-blockers(along with a few other sites I frequent including TPU).

I don't enjoy paying for a loaf of bread either, but I do it. Paying for bread means I have to work. I really don't like work because it means I'm not sitting watching videos and playing video games. Watching a 30 second ad or two to get some entertainment isn't a big deal for me. Compared to actual work, sitting on my ass and watching a 15 or 30 second ad that requires me to do absolutely nothing and put in no effort whatsoever is really not a big deal to me.

I tell you what, if they said "Hey, we'll give you these groceries for free, all you have to do is watch a 1 minute ad for every item you buy." You can bet your ass I'd spend an hour of my time sitting on my lazy ass at the grocery story watching ads. It's a hell of a lot better than spending the few hours it takes to earn the money dealing with whiny customers.

 

[Vya Domus]

how is blocking something at the source the same as putting your fingers in your ears while going lalalalalala and hoping it goes away?

one is circumventing a system while the other is being a child

Your still not watching the ad though , which defeats the purpose.

 

[PLAfiller]

Watching a 30 second ad or two to get some entertainment isn't a big deal for me. Compared to actual work, sitting on my ass and watching a 15 or 30 second ad that requires me to do absolutely nothing and put in no effort whatsoever is really not a big deal to me.

Things is, IMO, they are not exactly 30 secs. Sometimes ads are two times per video - beginning and middle and sometimes three times. And when you factor in they repeat very often the same ad - 30 min of Youtube watching can get irritating to a degree. Sometimes "ads" are whole reviews or entire mini-movies. I find it complicated as topic. I have my ad-blocker disabled for years for TPU and some other sites, but Youtube...I am not sure.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Monetizing YouTube ads is a choice. No one uploads content with an expectation to earn a set amount of money at some point when they become popular enough that begin to generate income from multiple sources. Add revenue is not the same as generated earned revenue. I'm not quite sure how YouTube in particular works but if you're popular enough, a certain product manufacturer will pay to get their product advertised on your videos. you cant guarantee that your viewers will watch those ads or that your viewers will purchase the product in those ads, but you can guarantee that you will allow the product placement either in your video or attached to your video and I'm sure that there's different payment amounts for different formats.

As an example, Coca-Cola could pay a pilot a certain amount of money to fly his plane over a beach with a banner that says "drink Coca-Cola". That pilot is going to collect the money regardless if 5 people are looking up and seeing the banner or 5000 people. People employed by companies advertising are paid on a quantifiable scale and you can't quantify how many eyes are looking at a medium. What you can quantify are sales. So a retailer who's been in business knows certain types of ads generate more sales and they pay a greater amount of money for their product to be placed in those mediums i.e. TV, radio etc.

Ads are not a guaranteed sales generator in the sense where they don't generate a guaranteed number per ad. All they can do is put the add up pay the person who's promoting the product and hope for the best but you can't force people to view your ad short of tattooing your product on their eye balls. Anyone who is old enough to remember the Internet and it's early days will probably have a greater distaste for ads than younger people because we live through the age of flashing invasive pop ups everywhere you went 10 times the page. I have no moral qualms with blocking an ad, because I know that it's in my right to not watch.

 

[vega22]

you have missed the point. they get paid for the ad being shown, you not watching it is a choice.

by blocking it you are saying they do not deserve to get paid for their time and efforts.

but none the less you have still not said if you're stealing the content by blocking them.

 

[newtekie1]

Things is, IMO, they are not exactly 30 secs. Sometimes ads are two times per video - beginning and middle and sometimes three times. And when you factor in they repeat very often the same ad - 30 min of Youtube watching can get irritating to a degree. Sometimes "ads" are whole reviews or entire mini-movies. I find it complicated as topic. I have my ad-blocker disabled for years for TPU and some other sites, but Youtube...I am not sure.

Anything longer than 30 seconds is skippable, so you have to watch like 10 seconds then click skip. OMG how terrible! And yes, longer videos can have ads in the middle, again, not a big deal if I have to watch a minute and a half worth of ads during a 30 minute video. It really isn't terrible.

 

[jboydgolfer]

you are saying they do not deserve to get paid for their time and efforts.

the ad is still shown, me not seeing it isnt make it somehow removed from the video, therefore, since i cannot remove the ad, the uploader still is paid

and although different nations have different laws, Ad blocking IS legal in my country, and is my right. The only time it becomes Illegal is when a Adblock Blocker is enabled, and a user tries to circumvent that measure. Websites have the ability to enable Anti adblockers, has youtube ? nope. the people who are willing to watch ads, watch them, If you forced 10 people who hate ads to watch them, do You really think they are NOT going to be pissed? would you really think forced ads are acceptable?

you have still not said if you're stealing the content by blocking them.

no im not. the content can be viewed with or without Ads, i choose the latter. the host site has the ability to block Adblocking software, but they know that wont fare well, look at other sites who implement that stuff.

 

[vega22]

sorry boydy i thought i had quoted @Vya Domus

tv stations have been forcing ads since the dawn of the tv, not sure i see your point.

by blocking these ads all we are doing is making the content creators place ads inside the content, which is worse for a few reasons imo.

 

[jboydgolfer]

sorry boydy i thought i had quoted @Vya Domus

tv stations have been forcing ads since the dawn of the tv, not sure i see your point.

by blocking these ads all we are doing is making the content creators place ads inside the content, which is worse for a few reasons imo.

they may try other forms, but based on the way adblock has pushed advertising to crowd funding, im guessing it wont find its way on a larger scale into videos, atleast i hope not. YT generates MASSIVE veiwer numbers, to screw with the formula is NOT a good idea, and not to be done lightly.

i didnt see the name of who you replied to, my bad.


Edit
In my opinion there's no better way to see how forced advertising works then to see it play out in real life. Look at a site like tweaktown, i used to check it out occasionally ,then they enabled some kind of antiblocker, now I refuse to go to it, and I never will again. I think what will happen is if ads are forced you'll get the people who don't want advertising not visiting your site anymore , the best choice as of now is to allow it to be blocked and that way your site is still getting the traffic it would normally that's just my opinion on the matter. Theres too many sources for content for exclusivity to be viable.

 

[vega22]

nah it was me, i obviously didn't hit the reply button i thought i had

you only need to look at some of the more savvy tubers to see it is happening. how many of them talk about the dollar shave club, ting, square space, onit, meundies and many other products during their shows? hell some of them have scripted sections they prerecord and just dump into new content that can take up half the vids.

while i am not hating on them for wanting to get paid i find those more frustrating than a 5 second, hell even a 30 second, clip at the beginning as i can choose to ignore that much easier. but the hidden ads, the product placements....some of the time you do not even know if it is the content or not :s

it is akin to the amd advertorial piece that caused much umbrage here not so long back :|

 

[Capitan Harlock]

I don't know how or why but i only have adblock and i didn't get any of this ads you're talking abou.
Could be because that i don't use crome and other google stuff?

 

[remixedcat]

HOSTS files

 

[Easy Rhino]

If you are watching a video I assume you want to support the content creator and therefore want to ensure they are paid for their work, no?

 

[newtekie1]

If you are watching a video I assume you want to support the content creator and therefore want to ensure they are paid for their work, no?

Apparently not. Any of them that feels people shouldn't be paid for the work they do simply because the payment process is a slight annoyance, I invite you to come work for me. I won't be paying you, because the small amount of time I have to put in to writing you a paycheck annoys me. I assume you'll understand and be OK with that.

 

[Megan]

skipable ads are fine but the ones that you cant skip annoy me. The ones which say video will play after ad are the ones that truly waste time. They are my 30 secs or a min . Why should i spend it watching an ad of something that i will not be buying

 

[basco]

on my tv if there are ads i immediatly switch to another channel. so am i cheating-no.

 

[Devon68]

I have only ubolck orgin installed and haven't seen an add in a long time. That is the way I like it.

 

[newtekie1]

skipable ads are fine but the ones that you cant skip annoy me. The ones which say video will play after ad are the ones that truly waste time. They are my 30 secs or a min . Why should i spend it watching an ad of something that i will not be buying

They are never a minute, the longest non-skippable ad on youtube is 30 seconds. And they aren't too long to be worried about.

 

[Vario]

Try Ublock Origin?

Ublock origin got rid of them for me. Try that. Other adblockers didn't remove them. In the past I have also need to completely remove the adblocker (though I don't think I've done that yet with UBO) and redownload it to get it working. I use PaleMoon browser, highly recommend it too.

The rest of this thread is worthless banter. If you aren't going to offer a blocking solution why bother to post?

 

[vega22]

on my tv if there are ads i immediatly switch to another channel. so am i cheating-no.

the adverts are still shown which is what they pay the station for, you choosing not to watch is not part of that deal and you are not able to remove them with a plugin as you need to wait for the broadcaster. you can bypass it via the use of delayed viewing with a dvr device, but the adverts still air.

you have the same choice to look at another web page while you wait online too....

The rest of this thread is worthless banter. If you aren't going to offer a blocking solution why bother to post?

so not blocking them on youtube (and other sites like tpu ) to support the content creators is not a valid point here?

 

[DRDNA]

so not blocking them on youtube (and other sites like tpu ) to support the content creators is not a valid point here?

Why do I need to even say this but it would be best if a new thread was opened for that( How do you feel about ad blockers and creators content in reference to being paid )instead of the crazy derailing of this thread.
Back on topic if Ublock doesn't work then it fair to assume the ads are hardcoded

 

[Megan]

They are never a minute, the longest non-skippable ad on youtube is 30 seconds. And they aren't too long to be worried about.

i have had ads that lasted a minute

 

[newtekie1]

i have had ads that lasted a minute

Then they were skippable. Unless you are talking about ads that the content creators themselves put in their videos, in which case those are skippable too, you just jump ahead in the video.