You run the risk of losing customers if you consistently fail to have stock they want.How so? You're selling cards - selling cards means influx of cash to the retailers and the manufacturers.
All they need to do is cut back the return date period to 7 days or so and hike the prices (like they are doing)...
How would it be bad for you in the long term?
System Name | Personal / HTPC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900x / i5-4460 |
Motherboard | Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming 4 /ASRock Z87 Extreme4 |
Cooling | Corsair H100i / stock HSF |
Memory | 32GB DDR4 3200 / 8GB DDR3 1600 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA XC3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti / EVGA RTX 3060 XC |
Storage | 500GB Pro 970, 250 GB SSD, 1TB & 500GB Western Digital / 2x 4TB & 1x 8TB WD Red, 2TB SSD & 4TB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell - S3220DGF 32" LED Curved QHD FreeSync Monitor / 50" LCD TV |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF XB Evo / CM HAF XB Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G35 headset |
Power Supply | 850W SeaSonic X Series / 750W SeaSonic X Series |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Black Microsoft Natural Elite Keyboard |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 / Windows 10 Pro 64 |
You run the risk of losing customers if you consistently fail to have stock they want.
For an online only store that might not be a problem but, Microcenter has a good number of physical locations. Someone coming into a store for a GPU might also poke around the monitor section, look at random peripherals, tell their friends, etc.
Someone looking to snap up cards for mining isn't likely to waste time on that.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | 2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 |
I don't think there will EVER be enough supply of graphic cards to meet the demands of miners.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Sorry... what was added? I dont see an editors note?Story updated, that $10k number isn't really what it seems to be.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Sorry... what was added? I dont see an editors note?
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Well about time, just hope others are willing to follow, as we know AMD cannot do shit about, remember they gotta keep those vendors happy.
Although i cannot see why people cannot just shop at 2 or more places for what they want.
Lets face it they still ripping people of per unit, they can shove that price tag were the sun don't shine, that goes for best buy too.
System Name | Miami |
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Processor | Ryzen 3800X |
Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VII Formula |
Cooling | Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover |
Memory | F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0 |
Storage | 1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD |
Display(s) | DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w |
Case | Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA Nu Audio |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W |
Mouse | Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O- |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 Platinum |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
How so? You're selling cards - selling cards means influx of cash to the retailers and the manufacturers.
All they need to do is cut back the return date period to 7 days or so and hike the prices (like they are doing)...
How would it be bad for you in the long term?
Processor | AMD 3900X \ AMD 7700X |
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Motherboard | ASRock AM4 X570 Pro 4 \ ASUS X670Xe TUF |
Cooling | D15 |
Memory | Patriot 2x16GB PVS432G320C6K \ G.Skill Flare X5 F5-6000J3238F 2x16GB |
Video Card(s) | eVga GTX1060 SSC \ XFX RX 6950XT RX-695XATBD9 |
Storage | Sammy 860, MX500, Sabrent Rocket 4 Sammy Evo 980 \ 1xSabrent Rocket 4+, Sammy 2x990 Pro |
Display(s) | Samsung 1080P \ LG 43UN700 |
Case | Fractal Design Pop Air 2x140mm fans from Torrent \ Fractal Design Torrent 2 SilverStone FHP141x2 |
Audio Device(s) | Yamaha RX-V677 \ Yamaha CX-830+Yamaha MX-630 Infinity RS4000\Paradigm P Studio 20, Blue Yeti |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime TX-750 \ Corsair RM1000X Shift |
Mouse | Steelseries Sensei wireless \ Steelseries Sensei wireless |
Keyboard | Logitech K120 \ Wooting Two HE |
Benchmark Scores | Meh benchmarks. |
Im glad this applies to both AMD and Nvidia. Things were easier before CUDA, as all gpus were soly for gaming, not compute.
This is a good move to keep Gaming stock around, befor
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
They are still over charging like around $80-$100 for these cards.
Processor | 13700KF Undervolted @ 5.6/ 5.5, 4.8Ghz Ring 200W PL1 |
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Motherboard | MSI 690-I PRO |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 w/ Arctic P12 Fans |
Memory | 48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 FE |
Storage | 2x 2TB WDC SN850, 1TB Samsung 960 prr |
Display(s) | Alienware 32" 4k 240hz OLED |
Case | SLIGER S620 |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Xlite V2 |
Keyboard | RoyalAxe |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | They're pretty good, nothing crazy. |
The there are two scenarios that eventually happen with the cards
A: Miners work the poor card over until it dies and then return or rma the card. Miners have shown that they have no qualms about doing so, if fact abuse warranties. If this keeps up I wouldn't be surprised if cards with nearly no warranty or draconian warranties start being sold.
B: At the end of a card's useful life, Miners offload the cards in the second hand market. This point directly refutes the point a sale is a sale. With miners it's actually a sale today is a lost sale tomorrow. Not going to mention the poor schmucks who end up buying a these cards that have spent most of their lives being tortured.
System Name | MSI GP76 |
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Processor | intel i7 11800h |
Cooling | 2 laptop fans |
Memory | 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia 3070 |
Storage | x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space |
Display(s) | 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz |
Power Supply | 280w laptop power supply |
Mouse | Logitech m705 |
Keyboard | laptop keyboard |
Software | lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell |
Benchmark Scores | Good enough for me |
System Name | Indis the Fair (cursed edition) |
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Processor | 11900k 5.1/4.9 undervolted. |
Motherboard | MSI Z590 Unify-X |
Cooling | Heatkiller VI Pro, VPP755 V.3, XSPC TX360 slim radiator, 3xA12x25, 4x Arctic P14 case fans |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 4000 16-19-19 (b-die@3600 14-14-14 1.45v) |
Video Card(s) | EVGA 2080 Super Hybrid (T30-120 fan) |
Storage | 970EVO 1TB, 660p 1TB, WD Blue 3D 1TB, Sandisk Ultra 3D 2TB |
Display(s) | BenQ XL2546K, Dell P2417H |
Case | FD Define 7 |
Audio Device(s) | DT770 Pro, Topping A50, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, Røde VXLR+, Modmic 5 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 860w Platinum |
Mouse | Razer Viper Mini, Odin Infinity mousepad |
Keyboard | GMMK Fullsize v2 (Boba U4Ts) |
Software | Win10 x64/Win7 x64/Ubuntu |
Honestly mining is pretty pointless, so why do it in the first place... then again banker's salaries are tooLots of people are still blaming miners for shortage of everything instead of taking advantage of it. Why complain and whine about it when you can learn to build those systems that miners want for a nice profit. So many people are just too lazy to do anything so they complain.
System Name | msdos |
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Processor | 8086 |
Motherboard | mainboard |
Cooling | passive |
Memory | 640KB + 384KB extended |
Video Card(s) | EGA |
Storage | 5.25" |
Display(s) | 80x25 |
Case | plastic |
Audio Device(s) | modchip |
Power Supply | 45 watts |
Mouse | serial |
Keyboard | yes |
Software | disk commander |
Benchmark Scores | still running |
System Name | Eric's Battlestation |
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Processor | Core i7 6700k |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 |
Cooling | Fractal Design Celsius S24 |
Memory | Patriot Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI Mech 6750 XT |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 1TB, Crucial MX500 1TB, Intel 660p 2TB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte M27Q |
Case | Fractal Design Define R5 |
Power Supply | EVGA G2-XR 80 Plus Gold 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Rival 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G810 |
Software | Microsoft Windows 10 Home |
System Name | Miami |
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Processor | Ryzen 3800X |
Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VII Formula |
Cooling | Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover |
Memory | F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0 |
Storage | 1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD |
Display(s) | DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w |
Case | Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA Nu Audio |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W |
Mouse | Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O- |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 Platinum |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
A: This leads to better designed hardware that fails less often.
B: This leads to manufacturers lowering prices.
It's uncomfortable for the buyer now, but ultimately this leads to the best outcome.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
System Name | MSI GP76 |
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Processor | intel i7 11800h |
Cooling | 2 laptop fans |
Memory | 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia 3070 |
Storage | x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space |
Display(s) | 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz |
Power Supply | 280w laptop power supply |
Mouse | Logitech m705 |
Keyboard | laptop keyboard |
Software | lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell |
Benchmark Scores | Good enough for me |
How are they relaxing this policy, can you say.So microcenter has been doing this for like 2-3 months now and has actually started relaxing the policy.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
How are they relaxing this policy, can you say.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | 2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 |
Honestly mining is pretty pointless, so why do it in the first place... then again banker's salaries are too
Processor | i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V |
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Motherboard | AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370 |
Cooling | beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 |
Memory | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Fractal Design Define R5 |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | XTRFY M42 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W10 x64 |