• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

ASRock Prevented by AMD to Sell its Graphics Cards in the EU

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder
Joined
Nov 22, 2005
Messages
28,472 (4.23/day)
Location
Indiana, USA
Processor Intel Core i7 10850K@5.2GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z470 Taichi
Cooling Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans
Memory 32GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super
Storage 500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG280K 4K 28"
Case Fractal Design Define S
Audio Device(s) Onboard is good enough for me
Power Supply eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
We had N brand choices before GPP was unveiled (and before AsRock decided to enter the market) and now we have N+1 brand choices thanks to Asus AREZ and death of GPP. Yeah, the delta isn't over 9000, but I think it's looking pretty good :rockout:

It is sad that the brand is now words tacked on to the model. The brand is ASUS or AsRock or Gigabyte or MSI or EVGA or XFX or Sapphire etc. The stupid buzz words that these companies are sticking on their graphics cards, and other prodcuts, is not the brand no matter how much anyone says it is.

ASUS creating AREZ didn't increase the number of brands, or add any extra choice to the market. If they shift a card from being called a Strix to being called an AREZ, no extra choice was added. And at the end of the day, you still have the same number of cards to pick from.

And the most important thing is people should be picking parts based on features, not based on the model line name slapped on the box.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2015
Messages
566 (0.17/day)
A very desperate makeup-something--from-nothing response from nVidia and their paid and unpaid nvidiots. this is not even close to the notorious GPP
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
27,680 (4.27/day)
Location
Houston
System Name All the cores
Processor 2990WX
Motherboard Asrock X399M
Cooling CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory 4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard Keychron K8
Software W10P
I've read on another forum that it's not just about the bargain with AMD. Chaintech does not have at least some of the certificates necessary to manufacture products that can be traded in EU. This also means they're doing the production cheaper compared to TUL who has those certificates and so produce most of the cards sold in the EU.

I already assumed this was the reasoning. Are any Chaintech brand products sold in the EU?
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (3.04/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
I already assumed this was the reasoning. Are any Chaintech brand products sold in the EU?
ASRock motherboards are sold here. They probably need different certifications, though.
 
Joined
Nov 20, 2012
Messages
422 (0.10/day)
Location
Hungary
System Name masina
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard ASUS TUF B550M
Cooling Scythe Kabuto 3 + Arctic BioniX P120 fan
Memory 16GB (2x8) DDR4-3200 CL16 Crucial Ballistix
Video Card(s) Radeon Pro WX 2100 2GB
Storage 500GB Crucial MX500, 640GB WD Black
Display(s) AOC C24G1
Case SilentiumPC AT6V
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX 650W
Mouse Logitech G203
Keyboard Cooler Master MasterKeys L PBT
Software Win 10 Pro
I've read on another forum that it's not just about the bargain with AMD. Chaintech does not have at least some of the certificates necessary to manufacture products that can be traded in EU. This also means they're doing the production cheaper compared to TUL who has those certificates and so produce most of the cards sold in the EU.

Interesting bit of info on the manufacturing side of things, although not manufacturing for this chunk of economic block is intriguing. Would probably make more sense if had numbers behind this decision, oh well...
 
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
286 (0.06/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Asus Prime X570 Pro
Cooling Deepcool LS-720
Memory 32 GB (4x 8GB) DDR4-3600 CL16
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 XT Gaming OC
Storage Samsung PM9A1 (980 Pro OEM) + 960 Evo NVMe SSD + 830 SATA SSD + Toshiba & WD HDD's
Display(s) Samsung C32HG70
Case Lian Li O11D Evo
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Zx
Power Supply Seasonic 750W Focus+ Platinum
Mouse Logitech G703 Lightspeed
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro
Software Windows 11 Pro
I don't understand how this ever became news. Certain brands limited to certain markets has been standard practice since forever, it was already happening in the Voodoo-days (while 3dfx kicked out most OEMs, they kept PowerColor in and allowed them to sell Voodoos only on certain markets)
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
27,680 (4.27/day)
Location
Houston
System Name All the cores
Processor 2990WX
Motherboard Asrock X399M
Cooling CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory 4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard Keychron K8
Software W10P
ASRock motherboards are sold here. They probably need different certifications, though.

Just because asrock boards exist doesn't mean they use the same oem as their graphics devision.
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (3.04/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
Joined
Jun 24, 2011
Messages
120 (0.03/day)
Location
Germany
System Name MonsterPC
Processor AMD X7950X3D
Motherboard MSI MEG E670X ACE
Cooling Corsair Cappelix H150i
Memory 128GB DDR5 @5600
Video Card(s) AMD RX7900XTX
Storage 120TB HDD + 3x 2TB SSD RAID, External - 390 TB Various HDD drives
Display(s) C49RG90
Case BIG Tower
Audio Device(s) Creative X-FI 4 + SteelSeries Arctis Pro USB
Power Supply Corsair AX1200i
Mouse SteelSeries Rival710
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro
VR HMD Valve Index
Software W10 x64
AMD banning ASRock? That is spreading FUD and trying to put AMD in a bad light.

See the update from Forbes (plus also Tom's Hardware has posted some updates already, of course the topic here is not updated and totally misleading) :
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...st-radeon-gpu-partner-from-selling-in-europe/

Maybe it was a targeted harassment in the light of “Freedom of Choice in PC Gaming” marketing campaign (in response to GPP)?
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (3.04/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
AMD banning ASRock? That is spreading FUD and trying to put AMD in a bad light.

See the update from Forbes (plus also Tom's Hardware has posted some updates already, of course the topic here is not updated and totally misleading) :
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...st-radeon-gpu-partner-from-selling-in-europe/

Maybe it was a targeted harassment in the light of “Freedom of Choice in PC Gaming” marketing campaign (in response to GPP)?
Harassment is definitely not the right word here, but to a certain degree this non-news getting blown out of proportion at this exact moment does smell a bit fishy.
 

Keullo-e

S.T.A.R.S.
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
11,048 (2.66/day)
Location
Finland
System Name 4K-gaming
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X up to 5.05GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite
Cooling Custom loop (CPU+GPU, 240 & 120 rads)
Memory 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury @ DDR4-3466
Video Card(s) PowerColor RX 6700 XT Fighter OC/UV
Storage ~4TB SSD + 6TB HDD
Display(s) Acer XV273K 4K120 + Lenovo L32p-30 4K60
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow White
Audio Device(s) Asus TUF H3 Wireless
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Logitech MX518
Keyboard Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO
VR HMD Oculus Rift CV1
Software Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores It runs Crysis remastered at 4K
What the f...

Tho those are too slow for an upgrade from GTX 980. I would need Crossfire at least.
 
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
1,133 (0.21/day)
Location
Republic of Texas
System Name [H]arbringer
Processor 4x 61XX ES @3.5Ghz (48cores)
Motherboard SM GL
Cooling 3x xspc rx360, rx240, 4x DT G34 snipers, D5 pump.
Memory 16x gskill DDR3 1600 cas6 2gb
Video Card(s) blah bigadv folder no gfx needed
Storage 32GB Sammy SSD
Display(s) headless
Case Xigmatek Elysium (whats left of it)
Audio Device(s) yawn
Power Supply Antec 1200w HCP
Software Ubuntu 10.10
Benchmark Scores http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1780855 http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2158678 http://ww
What the f...

Tho those are too slow for an upgrade from GTX 980. I would need Crossfire at least.

Doesn't matter, this article is fud, Asrock isn't making cards they are making stickers for chaintek cards and you don't want the cheap shit. Chaintek is not certified to sell in EU. That prevents them from selling not AMD.
 
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
3,890 (0.86/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s) Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED
Case Antec 1200
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Logitech UltraX
Software Windows 11
AsRock knew what they were signing up for, shitty Polaris cards going straight down the mine in Asia, it was a clear cash grab from them with a hefty nudge from AMD.

Let them die in the cold together.
 

FordGT90Concept

"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Joined
Oct 13, 2008
Messages
26,259 (4.63/day)
Location
IA, USA
System Name BY-2021
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (65w eco profile)
Motherboard MSI B550 Gaming Plus
Cooling Scythe Mugen (rev 5)
Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-3200 32 GiB
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT
Storage Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse Nixeus REVEL-X
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
AMD banning ASRock? That is spreading FUD and trying to put AMD in a bad light.

See the update from Forbes (plus also Tom's Hardware has posted some updates already, of course the topic here is not updated and totally misleading) :
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...st-radeon-gpu-partner-from-selling-in-europe/

Maybe it was a targeted harassment in the light of “Freedom of Choice in PC Gaming” marketing campaign (in response to GPP)?
To quote
ASRock got into the GPU game with cryptocurrency mining in mind. Indeed, it was initially reported that they were launching mining-based SKUs. What I've been told -- and I confirmed this twice over the phone and again via email -- is that in Europe, ASRock has decided not to sell Phantom Gaming graphics cards commercially. They won't appear in online or brick-and-mortal PC retail shops. They are only intended for miners and industrial use. Furthermore, the minimum order quantity for these customers is 500 pieces.
Had nothing to do with AMD.

First thought that came to my mind was that ASRock didn't make them RoHS compliant, ergo, illegal to sell in EU. Chaintek could be barred from sale for the same reason. Even if that was the case, it's EU law forbidding entry and has nothing to do with AMD. AMD's chips are RoHS compliant so it would be something ASRock decided to not do. Could be using lead-based solder for all we know (not RoHS compliant).
 
Last edited:
Joined
Apr 26, 2008
Messages
231 (0.04/day)
System Name 3950X Workstation
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VIII Impact
Cooling Cryorig C1 with Noctua NF-A12x15
Memory G.Skill F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX 1650 LP OC
Storage 2 x Corsair MP510 1920GB M.2 SSD
Case Realan E-i7
Power Supply G-Unique 400W
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/the-saga-of-the-little-gem-continues.12877/
TPU should be better than this, come on guys, show a bit of responsible journalism! :shadedshu:

By the way, i just came to the realization that Chaintech is an anagram of Chinatech :p
 
Top