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AMD Radeon RX 570 and China-specific RX 580 2048SP Based on Exact Same Chip

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It's no news that AMD's Radeon RX 570 graphics card is carved out of the same "Polaris 20" silicon as the RX 580, by disabling 4 out of 36 GCN compute units. AMD kicked a controversy recently, when it launched a China-specific Radeon RX 580-branded SKU with the core-configuration of the cheaper RX 570, confusing Chinese consumers. It turns out that this RX 580 2,048 SP SKU is based on the same exact ASIC variant of the "Polaris 20" silicon as the RX 570, with the only difference being device ID.

We watch a lot of GamersNexus content. Our GPU Database curator noticed something interesting in their recent teardown of a Dataland Radeon RX 580 (2,048 SP) graphics card directly imported from China. The unique ASIC sub-variant code etched on the GPU's aluminium reinforcement brace matches that of the RX 570. AMD internally refers to the RX 570 as "Polaris 20 XL," and its ASIC code etched is supposed to be "215-0910052." For the RX 580, the real one, aka "Polaris 20 XTX," the code etched is "215-0910038." Thanks to GamersNexus' high-resolution filming, our curator was able to spot the ASIC code for "Polaris 20 XL" on the Dataland card's GPU. This confirms that AMD merely took an RX 570 and gave it a different device ID to create the RX 580 2,048 SP, leaving consumers to wade through the confusion.



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Well, put them in the same pile of 1060s.

They all have to stop this practice at once otherwise it'll never go away. Will they ever ? Nah.
 
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Did AMD really need to do this, this is flat out worse than all the 1060 variants, at least they have many memory configurations to differentiate.
 
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I am disappointed that AMD did this...
 
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china's market seems weird. I have seen a lot of weird cheap cards with strange configurations for both NVIDIA and AMD.
 
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As others have stated, I feel like they should of taken a more mature approach to this. Yes the GTX 1060 models are a mess, and they directly battle with the 570/580 - but this is just a big shitstorm now. A true shame to the consumers.
 
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So AMD aren't saints either, shocking news.
 
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Stop comparing this to the GTX 1060. That card's performance in most games is going to be the same because it's the same GPU, whereas AMD's literally pulling a bait-and-switch here by rebranding a lower-end SKU as a higher-end one, and hoping people won't notice the difference.

That's entirely the reason why this "RX 580 2048SP" is a China-only product: consumer protection laws in the West would smack AMD down in a heartbeat for this, but China doesn't have those protections.
 
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So AMD aren't saints either, shocking news.

AMD's Gpu department **
AMD cpu department have been very much saints for a long time, Hope they can teach their gpu department how to name stuff!
 
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Stop comparing this to the GTX 1060. That card's performance in most games is going to be the same because it's the same GPU, whereas AMD's literally pulling a bait-and-switch here by rebranding a lower-end SKU as a higher-end one, and hoping people won't notice the difference.

That's entirely the reason why this "RX 580 2048SP" is a China-only product: consumer protection laws in the West would smack AMD down in a heartbeat for this, but China doesn't have those protections.

Dude, what? If this isn't using the same GPU as the RX 580 then the 1060 3GB isn't using the same GPU as the 6GB model either. RX 570 or "580 2048SP" has 4 of 36 CUs disabled (11%) while 1060 3GB has 1 out of 10 SMs disabled (10%).
 
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some people just wanna say i have 580, not amd's fault if they sell it cheaper
 
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With all the rebrands I'd be surprised if AMD themselves can keep track of what they're selling at what price point.

"AMD merely took an RX 570 and gave it a different device ID to create the RX 580 2,048 SP " - what the actual f**k

"It's not an rx570, it's an rx580 2048" :laugh:
 
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ya, and filter into the markets just like a ''fake'' card is today for any unsuspecting buyer ..

how soon till the whats wrong with my new 580 card I bought off e-bay ..lol...
 
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Well when you step in a store in china (first mistake) it's always called "Caveat Emptor" so what do we expect. If the box says RX 580 "2084" and that doesn't cause you any concern... well you're the 吸盘 "Xīpán" (aka sucker)! Why do I care?

Heck, so much it a lot of the stuff is miss-branded and counter-fit why does any one need to wank about it here, move on!
 
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More dirty AMD tricks. I say that as someone who was once considering an RX 560, until I realized the dirty tricks AMD and it's partners were playing.
 

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So I assume the data land card has the higher clocked memory or core or something?
 

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Well, the Chinese have always got some weird cards with weird branding.

I'd be more worried about those fake graphics card from China. :laugh:
 
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