• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Next-generation Intel Xeon Scalable Processors to Deliver Breakthrough Platform Performance with up to 56 Processor Cores

AleksandarK

AleksandarK

News Editor
Staff member
Joined
Aug 19, 2017
Messages
2,999 (1.07/day)
Intel today announced its future Intel Xeon Scalable processor family (codename Cooper Lake) will offer customers up to 56 processor cores per socket and built-in AI training acceleration in a standard, socketed CPU as part of its mainline Intel Xeon Scalable platforms, with availability in the first half of 2020. The breakthrough platform performance delivered within the high-core-count Cooper Lake processors will leverage the capabilities built into the Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 series, which today is gaining momentum among the world's most demanding HPC customers, including HLRN, Advania, 4Paradigm, and others.

"The Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 series that we introduced as part of our 2nd Generation Intel Xeon Scalable processor family generated a lot of excitement among our customers who are deploying the technology to run their high-performance computing (HPC), advanced analytics, artificial intelligence and high-density infrastructure. Extended 56-core processor offerings into our mainline Intel Xeon Scalable platforms enables us to serve a much broader range of customers who hunger for more processor performance and memory bandwidth."
-Lisa Spelman, vice president and general manager of Data Center Marketing, Intel Corporation


The future Intel Xeon Scalable processors (codename Cooper Lake) will deliver twice the processor core count (up to 56 cores), higher memory bandwidth, and higher AI inference and training performance compared to the standard Intel Xeon Platinum 8200 processor. The future 56-core Cooper Lake processor is expected to deliver a lower power envelope than the current Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 processors. Cooper Lake will be the first x86 processor to deliver built-in high-performance AI training acceleration capabilities through new bfloat16 support added to Intel Deep Learning Boost (Intel DL Boost ). Cooper Lake will have platform compatibility with the upcoming 10nm Ice Lake processor.

For more than 20 years, Intel Xeon processors have delivered the platform and performance leadership that gives data center and enterprise customers the flexibility to pick the right solution for their computing needs. Next-generation Intel Xeon Scalable processors (Cooper Lake) build off Intel's uninterrupted server processor track record by delivering leadership performance for customers' real-world workloads and business application needs.

Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 processors are available for purchase today as part of a pre-configured systems from select OEMs, including Atos, HPE, Lenovo, Penguin Computing, Megware and authorized Intel resellers. Learn more information about the Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 processors.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
windwhirl said:
Not every bit of performance depends on core counts.
Click to expand...

Yes also power consumption is a huge factor in server parts.
64 cores 225W vs 56 cores 400W , this is a no-brainer .
 
Go actually talk to the vendors... they say no one wants these... due to the 400w tdp.

There are going to be no mainstream servers with these, just a handful of HPC only boxes that will have to be watercooled...
Penguin computing doesn't even list these (one of the hpc vendors in the list) Cray said they were going to make a box but have not shown it yet, that is why HPE is in the list, they recently acquired Cray, but there will be no HPE Proliants with them in them, only select Apollo servers for Megascale customers for Supercomputers.

This is Damage control before Epyc launch.
www.servethehome.com

AMD EPYC Rome NAMD and the Intel Xeon Response at Computex 2019

We discuss the lively exchange between AMD EPYC Rome 64 core benchmarks and the Intel Xeon response at Computex 2019 and help you decipher what it means
www.servethehome.com www.servethehome.com
www.servethehome.com

Why the Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 Series Lacks Mainstream Support

We break down why the Intel Xeon Platinum 9200 series lacks mainstream support from major OEMs and is focused as a niche x86 HPC compute density platform
www.servethehome.com www.servethehome.com
www.servethehome.com

2020 Cooper Lake Socketed with 56 Cores and bfloat16

In the first half of 2020 Intel Cooper Lake will bring 56 cores, lower TDP, and bfloat16 support as a socketed evolution from today's Platinum 9200 series.
www.servethehome.com www.servethehome.com
 
londiste said:
www.tomshardware.com

AMD EPYC Rome 7742 Battles Intel Xeon in Benchmarks Posted Online

An anonymous user posted results on OpenBenchmarking claiming to be AMD's upcoming EPYC 7742 server processor, pitting it against Intel Xeon CPUs.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
tl;dr
Assuming the leak is correct, it does in some tests. Dual socket setup being 2x28 cores vs 64.
Click to expand...

Are we really surprised that a single socket 64 core chip beat a dual socket 28 core system in some tests? Also there were tests where a single 28 core chip beat dual socket 64 core chips. So, don't be offended if I wait for reviews by reliable parties (Anandtech, etc) versus anonymous "leaked" benches. And I'm willing to bet that both chips trade benches when that happens.
 
Mephis said:
Are we really surprised that a single socket 64 core chip beat a dual socket 28 core system in some tests? Also there were tests where a single 28 core chip beat dual socket 64 core chips. So, don't be offended if I wait for reviews by reliable parties (Anandtech, etc) versus anonymous "leaked" benches. And I'm willing to bet that both chips trade benches when that happens.
Click to expand...
Give it a day. Intel is in damage control for Rome's imminent launch.

www.servethehome.com

AMD EPYC Rome NAMD and the Intel Xeon Response at Computex 2019

We discuss the lively exchange between AMD EPYC Rome 64 core benchmarks and the Intel Xeon response at Computex 2019 and help you decipher what it means
www.servethehome.com www.servethehome.com
 
Patriot said:
Give it a day. Intel is in damage control for Rome's imminent launch.
Click to expand...
The thing is, Intel did that already in April with the Xeon 9200 series launch. One of the links in your post says (and given the early 2020 ETA it is likely) this current announcement is Cooper Lake. Whether Intel can improve considerably on Cascade Lake-AP when it comes to power consumption, we will have to wait and see. New platform and 8-channel memory should be the main improvement there.

On the other side of the fence, Rome is kind of out there (in supercomputers for practically a year) but still not officially released.
 
Intel is trying to convince it's customers that huge powerful chips are just around the corner, so they don't go with AMD.
As for those CPUs, probably the AI part could be interenting and something where Intel could differenciate itself from AMD. As for the cores, at 14nm,.... well, HUGE PSU...
 
londiste said:
The thing is, Intel did that already in April with the Xeon 9200 series launch. One of the links in your post says (and given the early 2020 ETA it is likely) this current announcement is Cooper Lake. Whether Intel can improve considerably on Cascade Lake-AP when it comes to power consumption, we will have to wait and see. New platform and 8-channel memory should be the main improvement there.

On the other side of the fence, Rome is kind of out there (in supercomputers for practically a year) but still not officially released.
Click to expand...

This is damage control for imminent public release, STH, anand reviews incoming.
This is about cooperlake because the industry Balked at the paper launch of 9200 bga chips, these are socketed...and "less power" but not 10nm, but will be upgradeable to 10nm icelake.... in a few years.
This is very much a please don't buy epyc, we promise we are not done competing, and I am certain they are not done, but they are certainly in one of the worst positions they have ever been in on the server market.

What they do have is a clock speed advantage because of 14nm, so they will retain competitiveness in certain workloads, however they cannot flex that too strongly or they will have performance degradations with icelake 10nm. as we have seen their 10nm+ having 600-1000mhz clock reductions on the icelake laptop chips erasing the 18% ipc gains.
 
Mephis said:
Are we really surprised that a single socket 64 core chip beat a dual socket 28 core system in some tests? Also there were tests where a single 28 core chip beat dual socket 64 core chips. So, don't be offended if I wait for reviews by reliable parties (Anandtech, etc) versus anonymous "leaked" benches. And I'm willing to bet that both chips trade benches when that happens.
Click to expand...


On tests where memory bandwidth matters, yes I am impressed, it means a dual socket 120 core would wipe the floor with the other brand and do it for less money, with lower TDP. All things that matter to the end user, and the person who has to pay for the server. It shows AMD has done hard work to increase the mask the cache gives them over latency and points us towards a CPU that will have great performance in the long run, not a short life before being replaced with a new and more expensive setup.
 
Mephis said:
Are we really surprised that a single socket 64 core chip beat a dual socket 28 core system in some tests?
Click to expand...

No,
We are surprised a $7800 chip beating 2x $10000 chip
And a 225W chip beating 2x 205W chip.
 
Steevo said:
On tests where memory bandwidth matters, yes I am impressed, it means a dual socket 120 core would wipe the floor with the other brand and do it for less money, with lower TDP. All things that matter to the end user, and the person who has to pay for the server. It shows AMD has done hard work to increase the mask the cache gives them over latency and points us towards a CPU that will have great performance in the long run, not a short life before being replaced with a new and more expensive setup.
Click to expand...

I don't think anyone can deny that AMD has made huge progress with their recent designs. I guess my biggest point of contention is the notion that Intel is doomed. There is no doubt their backs are up against a corner, but they have been there before and we all know what the result was. I personally am pulling for both companies (Nvidia too), because customers win when there is strong competition.

Crackong said:
No,
We are surprised a $7800 chip beating 2x $10000 chip
And a 225W chip beating 2x 205W chip.
Click to expand...

Agreed that is impressive. Just want to point out that the price isn't really that big of deal when you compare it to total cost of ownership. Things like RAM, Software and Service dwarf the cost of the CPUs.
 
Patriot said:
This is damage control for imminent public release, STH, anand reviews incoming.
Click to expand...
Oh, you are right. Epyc Rome should be released tomorrow. Kind of forgot about that with the constant rumored release dates over this year :)
 
LOL- Intel to it's loyal customers after EPYC ROME Launch:
1qbx6i.jpg
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top