AMD Desktop Processor Market Share Now at 18.3%: Mercury Research

[IceShroom]

You like to get your CPUs less expensive or you like Intel to continuously charge wood for gold? From which case are you gaining more? Care to elaborate?

Did Ryzen changed Intel pricing? I am seeing not. The real I5s are still $250(expect for the crippled ones). i7s are still $350+.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

it may not be much, but that number itself is enough to scare Inte-- I mean... "Shintel" executives. Kudos to Lisa Su & the folks at AMD.

 

[steve360]

Did Ryzen changed Intel pricing? I am seeing not. The real I5s are still $250(expect for the crippled ones). i7s are still $350+.

For the mainstream platforms, not significantly if anything.

But over at the HEDT section, the price difference between a 9980XE and 10980XE is about 50%.

What you don't seem to understand is that while AMD's ~20% market is relatively low compared to Intel, the big factor to consider is that AMD has momentum on their side. AMD is steadily eating away at Intel's lead and Intel has no real answers at the moment other than to weather the storm by regurgitating recycled products on 14nm++++++++++++++++++++ until they get their act together.

 

[ratirt]

Did Ryzen changed Intel pricing? I am seeing not. The real I5s are still $250(expect for the crippled ones). i7s are still $350+.

Didn't change the price for I5 and I7. Sure that is where the money is. Look at the server market and open your eyes dude. It's about time people stop defending the bull. Let Intel defend itself by releasing something worthy purchasing and then we can have a chat.

 

[Super XP]

Next 2 years probably gain around 50% share. I mean Intel has nothing new on desktop until 2021.

What Intel has is Paper Launches and manipulating marketing and advertising.
And hopefully they don't try and manipulate OEMs like in the past which they got sued for Billions in damages. Just because they wanted to squeeze out the competition, because Innovating was too expensive for Intel and they did not want to dip into their profits to pay for innovation. lol

Hopefully AMD continues to gain more aggressive momentum so they can secure as much market share as possible. I can see 10% to 12% Server market share by the end of 2020. I can also see that 18.3% double by the end of 2020. If ZEN 3 ends up being faster in PC gaming indefinitely, they will conquer the multi-billion dollar desktop gaming industry by storm. Because the one slight card Intel holds over AMD is gaming, they have a slight performance edge. Intel loses that and they are finished.

 

[Zach_01]

Did Ryzen changed Intel pricing? I am seeing not. The real I5s are still $250(expect for the crippled ones). i7s are still $350+.

Stop chewing your icesrooms, hurting your brain... or maybe is something else.

Your thoughts are irrational and make no sense. You want monopoly game and that alone implies 1 of 2 things.
you choose:
1. Your brain is toast
2. You are getting paid by Intel to spread this kind of talk

 

[IceShroom]

Stop chewing your icesrooms, hurting your brain... or maybe is something else.

Your thoughts are irrational and make no sense. You want monopoly game and that alone implies 1 of 2 things.
you choose:
1. Your brain is toast
2. You are getting paid by Intel to spread this kind of talk

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

 

[ratirt]

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

You don't want monopoly and yet few posts up, in this thread i think. It was you who said why AMD is even manufacturing. AMD should leave semiconductors for good.
If that is not monopoly you are asking for then I don't know what is.

 

[R0H1T]

There's multiple reasons for that, not in the least multiple backroom deals that Intel does besides the MDF.

If that is not monopoly you are asking for then I don't know what is.

He's not, from what I understand he's probably just saying that people should buy AMD given their vastly superior products in many cases. Obviously that takes time & $ surprisingly because of the way how markets work & people go for short term gains knowing what it can do to them in the long term!

 

[IceShroom]

You don't want monopoly and yet few posts up, in this thread i think. It was you who said why AMD is even manufacturing. AMD should leave semiconductors for good.
If that is not monopoly you are asking for then I don't know what is.

AMD is not the only company in town.

 

[ratirt]

There's multiple reasons for that, not in the least multiple backroom deals that Intel does besides the MDF.
He's not, from what I understand he's probably just saying that people should buy AMD given their vastly superior products in many cases. Obviously that takes time & $ surprisingly because of the way how markets work & people go for short term gains knowing what it can do to them in the long term!

I'm pretty sure he said AMD out of the semiconductor (considering we are talking about CPUs out of the CPU market) products.

AMD is not the only company in town.

Sure it is not. but it is the one of the biggest. If AMD is not there that would have made a huge impact to the desktop market.

 

[steve360]

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

You don't want a monopoly even though you said:

AMD is creating problem in semiconductor market with this piss poor market share. So AMD need to get out.

Which effectively creates a monopoly in the x86 market.

Nobody wants a monopoly - everyone wants competition which is exactly what AMD is bringing. It is only you who thinks people want a monopoly when that is clearly wrong.

Growing market share in CPUs takes time. It is unrealistic to think AMD should be close to 50% after 3 years of Zen.

 

[IceShroom]

I'm pretty sure he said AMD out of the semiconductor (considering we are talking about CPUs out of the CPU market) products.

Correction : Both CPU and GPU. As nearly no one buys AMD GPU and only 18.5% buy AMD CPU.

Growing market share in CPUs takes time. It is unrealistic to think AMD should be close to 50% after 3 years of Zen.

25% would have been reasonable.

 

[ratirt]

Correction : Both CPU and GPU. As nearly no one buys AMD GPU and only 18.5% buy AMD CPU.


25% would have been reasonable.

I got AMD GPU so you are not correct. There's a lot of 5700XT's non-XT's sold.
Considering where AMD was with the market share and where is it now, it is getting traction. I wouldn't judge the company capabilities and partners demands buy sheer number. This is growing and the share market will not change within a short time. We need to observe it because it will grow.

 

[Vayra86]

"Its not enough share, [company] should die"

"No, its great, momentum etc"

/thread.


Unless somebody has a DeLorean to tell us what it ended up like, please, drop this sadness

 

[steve360]

25% would have been reasonable.

25% now would be a long shot.

At current trends, 25% by 2022 is realistic.

 

[ratirt]

"Its not enough share, [company] should die"

"No, its great, momentum etc"

/thread.


Unless somebody has a DeLorean to tell us what it ended up like, please, drop this sadness

Opening with mockery? Oh you seem to be in a good mood (joke)
So what is your take on it? Is it a good market share or bad? Considering what AMD has had for a few years back. Since you are on Mars, you may have a better look from up there what's going on on Earth (and another one)

 

[Zach_01]

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

AMD is not the only company in town.

Correction : Both CPU and GPU. As nearly no one buys AMD GPU and only 18.5% buy AMD CPU.


25% would have been reasonable.

You keep saying things that make no sense, that is incorrect, and clearly you are trying to convince users on the edge of the fence, that only Intel/nVidia are good for the market.
You know that you can’t convince any experienced and informed user but that is not your goal and target with all that crazy you’re spreading.

Total distortion of truth and facts cannot alter reality no matter how hard you try. Keep that in mind!

"Its not enough share, [company] should die"

"No, its great, momentum etc"

/thread.


Unless somebody has a DeLorean to tell us what it ended up like, please, drop this sadness

Are you kidding?
momentum, is “determined” by past events and facts not future....
Future failure is “estimated” by past events and facts....

And so far AMD has done a lot disrupting on Intel and nVidia and gain a lot the past 3 years. Only blind cannot see this.

 

[Vayra86]

Opening with mockery? Oh you seem to be in a good mood (joke)
So what is your take on it? Is it a good market share or bad? Considering what AMD has had for a few years back. Since you are on Mars, you may have a better look from up there what's going on on Earth (and another one)

Already responded to the Shroom. I'm just surprised we're a page further and still on about his little comment. Y'all give him way too much credit

And so far AMD has done a lot disrupting on Intel and nVidia and gain a lot the past 3 years. Only blind cannot see this.

Indeed so why harp on about it

Though disrupting Nvidia... don't get me started please. Where?! By giving them the market?

 

[Zach_01]

25% would have been reasonable.

When you will become Intel’s CEO, you can set and achieve your own reasonable goals...

Already responded to the Shroom. I'm just surprised we're a page further and still on about his little comment. Y'all give him way too much credit

Because we cant let him pass on the senseless ideas...

And I didn’t harp on about anything... you said what you said about momentum/failure and I had to respond.
I apologize if Ididnt understand fully your spirit, I am from a whole other country....

Though disrupting Nvidia... don't get me started please. Where?! By giving them the market?

That is only you idea and not the truth....

 

[notb]

Yep. From Yahoo article green shill "from Asia" is referring to:

"AMD has a 7% share of the server processor market,"

That article refers to wccftech as a source:
https://wccftech.com/amd-goal-historical-cpu-market-share-server-desktop-notebook-segments/
Wccftech refers a transcript of an interview available on Seeking Alpha:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/43...presents-ubs-global-tmt-conference-transcript
so the 7% figure comes from AMD - no one knows how they got it or how to use it.

Mercury Research provides comparable figures from multiple sales periods. They're also a fairly respected source.
So when AMD tells you 7% and MR says 4.5%, it may be wiser to believe the latter. But in the end it's just a statistic based on some sample - they're both wrong.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...c-and-ryzen-growth-decelerate-mobile-ryzen-up
The important part is the growth observed in MR's results. It's below expectations.

 

[Super XP]

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

The entire computer industry should be thanking AMD for true innovation and CPU technological advancements, because if it wasn't for AMD pushing forward, this computer industry would have been behind by at least 15 years.
And don't count on Intel for innovation as they rather overprice there products and not tap into profits to innovate.

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

Who pushed real innovation into CPU's? AMD
Who's been leading the processor industry in innovation & technology for 30+ years? AMD
Where AMD leads, Intel follows, and they've been following AMD for many many years.

If for example Intel was the only CPU producer, this industry would be in major trouble, and we would get recycled garbage CPUs with 1% IPC increase if we are lucky.

If you don't think a couple $ billion dollars in sales is that big, then you have issues my friend

 

[jigar2speed]

I dont want monopoly, but people want it. That is why AMD has only 18.5% desktop market share after nearly 3 years of Zen architecture.

Bro please make sense, mind share and market share are 2 different things, i am now 100% sure you are young and don't understand how market operates.

 

[Zach_01]

Bro please make sense, mind share and market share are 2 different things, i am now 100% sure you are young and don't understand how market operates.

Keep in mind that he/she may also know exactly how things work, but just trying to disorientate and mislead some group of users. The reasons are unknown... or not...

 

[Vayra86]