AMD Ryzen 4000 "Vermeer" CPUs Almost Ready to Hit the Market

[AleksandarK]

AMD has been working hard to prepare its next-generation Ryzen 4000 CPUs codenamed Vermeer, and we have some exciting news about it. Thanks to the sources over at Igor's Lab, we have information that AMD Vermeer CPUs are close to launching. Apparently, the CPUs have are now at B0 stepping and are going through the usual validation process. The B0 stepping is where the CPU is fully working and now it just needs to go on mass production. The next step for the CPU is high-volume manufacturing and in a very quick time, the CPUs will be ready to hit the market.

Usually, it takes 3-4 months for silicon to be manufactured, so if AMD has orders set at TSMC's factory for the manufacturing of its processors, we could get the processors very soon. Given that AMD is ready with the design, and there is a lack of competition from team blue, AMD is very flexible with timing. The processors can be ready whenever AMD needs them to be. After a while, AMD is in a position to dictate the market needs and tailor them to their own. This used to be a position where Intel was before the Ryzen era. Now if AMD needs to do a launch as quickly as possible they can. If not, they have the design ready and can push it a few months.


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[matar]

Great News for us , but not for intel

 

[ZoneDymo]

Great News for us , but not for intel

Well great news great news, lets see if they are a proper upgrade first.

 

[EzioAs]

I think some people here would disagree with the assumption made in this article — they seem convinced that Ryzen 4000 CPUs would not arrive in 2020.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

Just a quit Google shows the 3000 series are MTS B0 stepping?
I agree that the way that frog's lab puts out to end of Q4 2020.
We should already be in Q3 2020(at least I think so.....<_<.....>_>....<_<....>_>)

 

[kayjay010101]

I think some people here would disagree with the assumption made in this article — they seem convinced that Ryzen 4000 CPUs would not arrive in 2020.

Seeing as it's literally been confirmed and reconfirmed by AMD multiple times that Zen 3 is in fact launching this year, I don't see how anyone can come to that assumption.
This was mainly an opinion when the XT CPUs were first leaked, as it made little sense to launch them and then soon after launch Zen 3. But AMD did confirm that Zen 3 is still on course for 2020 after that whole ordeal, so there is no reason to harbor the opinion of them not launching this year. If they didn't, AMD would be in big trouble for lying.

 

[EzioAs]

Seeing as it's literally been confirmed and reconfirmed by AMD multiple times that Zen 3 is in fact launching this year, I don't see how anyone can come to that assumption.
This was mainly an opinion when the XT CPUs were first leaked, as it made little sense to launch them and then soon after launch Zen 3. But AMD did confirm that Zen 3 is still on course for 2020 after that whole ordeal, so there is no reason to harbor the opinion of them not launching this year. If they didn't, AMD would be in big trouble for lying.

Well, it wasn't my opinion anyway. Just wanted to share what was being said for the last couple of weeks in the forums.

 

[Caring1]

Give me a decent laptop with a 4700G and i'll be happy.
Hell, I might even settle for a 4400G.

 

[watzupken]

My thought about "hit the market" is when the product is available. If this have not even reached mass production, not sure if we can say that it is ready to hit the market.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

This is the one I have been waiting for, with integrated graphics.

 

[Imsochobo]

Give me a decent laptop with a 4700G and i'll be happy.
Hell, I might even settle for a 4400G.

they exist, 4700U, 4700H, 4800H, 4800hs, 4900hs etc etc...

 

[kayjay010101]

My thought about "hit the market" is when the product is available. If this have not even reached mass production, not sure if we can say that it is ready to hit the market.

"The next step for the CPU is high-volume manufacturing and in a very quick time, the CPUs will be ready to hit the market"
The article did not say they are ready to hit the market, it said they will be "in a very quick time".

This is the one I have been waiting for, with integrated graphics.

If it's with integrated graphics, this is not what you've been waiting for. That would be Renoir, not Vermeer. Vermeer is CPU, Renoir is APU. AMD has two series, the CPU and APU series. 3rd gen was Matisse for CPU and Picasso for APU. Vermeer is 4th gen CPU, so no integrated graphics.

 

[Ravenlord]

They should still push hard Intel to keep advantage as long as possible, unless they don't have bigger plans to improve cpus (excluding TSMC node improvements).

 

[steve360]

Hopefully they enter mass production very soon.

I want Zen 3 and RDNA 2 out in time for the Cyberpunk 2077 launch.

 

[midnightoil]

They have likely already entered production.

 

[1d10t]

Aw come one, one tiny weeny peek, or glimpse of CPUz.Boohoo!

 

[Gungar]

How is this possible if they just released the XT variant of the 3000 series?!?

 

[Caring1]

they exist, 4700U, 4700H, 4800H, 4800hs, 4900hs etc etc...

Yeah but nobody has given me one yet, I'm expected to buy one.

 

[steve360]

How is this possible if they just released the XT variant of the 3000 series?!?

The XT parts would have been made much earlier and on a different 7nm mode. There are probably not that many XT parts in stock anyway since they are hardly exciting or worth the money.

 

[efikkan]

They have likely already entered production.

Yes, or it depends what the author means by "entered production".
Anything shipping in September/October has obviously entered mass production of wafers by now.

How is this possible if they just released the XT variant of the 3000 series?!?

Can AMD manage to walk and chew gum at the same time? I think so.

The XT models are just different bins of the non-XT variants, so they've had them all along. Kind of similar to Intel's limited i7-8086K and i9-9900KS.

 

[midnightoil]

How is this possible if they just released the XT variant of the 3000 series?!?

XT parts are just a different bin. They're identical to all the other Zen 2 Ryzen chiplets.

Vermeer is Zen 3.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Well, it wasn't my opinion anyway. Just wanted to share what was being said for the last couple of weeks in the forums.

And AMD went out of their way to squash that rumor: https://www.techpowerup.com/268650/amd-confirms-vermeer-zen-3-not-delayed-to-launch-in-2020

 

[EzioAs]

And AMD went out of their way to squash that rumor: https://www.techpowerup.com/268650/amd-confirms-vermeer-zen-3-not-delayed-to-launch-in-2020

You'd be surprised to know some people here won't take AMD's word without actual dates announced. Again, not my opinion because I don't really care whether it's this year or the next.

 

[Xajel]

Give me a decent laptop with a 4700G and i'll be happy.
Hell, I might even settle for a 4400G.

The 4000G series are meant to be desktop parts, so a socketed AM4 65W TDP parts.. not a laptop if you would say, but closer to a DTR.

 

[Kapone33]

Hopefully they enter mass production very soon.

I want Zen 3 and RDNA 2 out in time for the Cyberpunk 2077 launch.

With the hype around that Game I think AMD is thinking the exact same thing.