Wednesday, June 17th 2020

AMD Confirms "Vermeer" Zen 3 Not Delayed, to Launch in 2020

AMD in an official briefing call with us confirmed that the company's "Zen 3" client processors are on-track for launch within 2020. This refutes rumors that "Zen 3" based Ryzen processors had been delayed to 2021 in favor of giving the upcoming Ryzen 3000XT reign over the rest of the year. The call was chaired by AMD's client-segment product managers who were speaking purely in context of their product segment, which is how we deduce that they were referring to "Vermeer" and not [just] "Milan." They were responding to speculation that "Zen 3" has been delayed to 2021, forcing AMD to refresh its existing IP.

In the call, AMD told us that the information about "Zen 3" launching in 2020 is not under embargo, and so here we are. An AMD spokesperson told us that "the rumor on Zen 3 delay is inaccurate." AMD recently also refuted rumors of "Zen 3" being based on 5 nm, by putting out microarchitecture roadmap slides on the occasion of a recent investor relations event, which reaffirmed "Zen 3" as a 7 nm-class microarchitecture.
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40 Comments on AMD Confirms "Vermeer" Zen 3 Not Delayed, to Launch in 2020

#3
Rowsol
Uh, so what happened to skipping 7nm and going to 5?
Oh, I never knew it was a rumor, I thought it was official. Then again I only skimmed a single article about it so, yeah.
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#4
Houd.ini
Rowsol
Uh, so what happened to skipping 7nm and going to 5?
It's still a rumour?
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#5
Dante Uchiha
Rowsol
Uh, so what happened to skipping 7nm and going to 5?
False info to manipulate the stock market as expected.
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#6
theoneandonlymrk
Dante Uchiha
False info to manipulate the stock market as expected.
What, if you think so.

So they denounced a rumour within a day and it served a purpose.

Perhaps, no it definitely Was Aliens.
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#7
fynxer
Nice, AMD keeps up the pressure.

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#8
Kaotik
Rowsol
Uh, so what happened to skipping 7nm and going to 5?
That ridiculous rumor had never any merit behind it, that kind of changes don't happen this late and it would have delayed the CPU much further.

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As for the news, I'd stress that the client portion is only what TechPowerUp thinks AMD means, but they didn't actually say anything but "Zen 3 architecture will release this year" and "Rumors going around about delaying Zen 3 are not true".
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#9
yeeeeman
Launching is one thing, availability is a total different thing. Usually companies try to launch as early as possible so they get people hooked up to wait for the products to be available.
Just look at Renoir, it has been launched for 1-2 months now and it is still hard to find.
My predictions are launch in 7 Nov with availability in holiday time.
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#10
PerfectWave
seems to me AMD had a brief call with everyone LUL
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#11
Kaotik
PerfectWave
seems to me AMD had a brief call with everyone LUL
Not for everyone, but if you're part of the major publications of your area, it's highly likely that you were part of it, it was a conference call for media.
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#12
efikkan
Rowsol
Uh, so what happened to skipping 7nm and going to 5?
Oh, I never knew it was a rumor, I thought it was official. Then again I only skimmed a single article about it so, yeah.
They would never switch node a few months ahead of release, microprocessor production doesn't work that way.
I wouldn't rule out a later Zen 3 product on 5nm, but the first ones will be on 7nm, as confirmed by AMD not too long ago.
yeeeeman
Launching is one thing, availability is a total different thing. Usually companies try to launch as early as possible so they get people hooked up to wait for the products to be available.
Just look at Renoir, it has been launched for 1-2 months now and it is still hard to find.
My predictions are launch in 7 Nov with availability in holiday time.
Isn't that what we call an announcement?
Products can be sold out for months as long as the demand is greater than supply, but that's much less important than the actual shipped volume.

Anyway, they can't decide the final specs until they have the final stepping in significant quantities, so they can't "lanuch" it >6 months ahead of actual mass production.
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#13
thesmokingman
theoneandonlymrk
What, if you think so.

So they denounced a rumour within a day and it served a purpose.

Perhaps, no it definitely Was Aliens.
It's not enough for them to put down their pitchforks, smh.
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#14
ddarko
The DigiTimes report that said Zen3 would be delayed till 2021 also said the Zen2 XT processors would launch on July 7. Digitimes is known globally for their accuracy (sarcasm).
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#15
qcmadness
yeeeeman
Launching is one thing, availability is a total different thing. Usually companies try to launch as early as possible so they get people hooked up to wait for the products to be available.
Just look at Renoir, it has been launched for 1-2 months now and it is still hard to find.
My predictions are launch in 7 Nov with availability in holiday time.
I have got one already.
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#16
Darmok N Jalad
yeeeeman
Launching is one thing, availability is a total different thing. Usually companies try to launch as early as possible so they get people hooked up to wait for the products to be available.
Just look at Renoir, it has been launched for 1-2 months now and it is still hard to find.
My predictions are launch in 7 Nov with availability in holiday time.
COVID-19 has disrupted many supply chains. Go try to find an XboxOne or PS4 right now. They have been sold out in most places for weeks. Just now are we starting to see available stock again. I’ve noticed even many motherboards are sold out.
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#17
Turmania
Launch date 21st of December 2020. Product availability on the stores June 1st 2021. Hey all within rules.
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#18
Tomgang
Nooooooo how dare AMD give poor little Intel more trouble by releasing ZEN 3 in 2020.

Nar just joking. It's good with competition. That keeps prices down, innovation up and it benefits us consumers. We have seen for years what the lack of competition dit to Intel. They got lazy releasing one I7 quad-core after another for years, even on there HEDT they released a i5 quad-core with out HT and even throw the platform/chipset whas quad-channel memory support, the CPU's only had dual-channel support and really dit not innovate for a long time.
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#19
Kaotik
Darmok N Jalad
COVID-19 has disrupted many supply chains. Go try to find an XboxOne or PS4 right now. They have been sold out in most places for weeks. Just now are we starting to see available stock again. I’ve noticed even many motherboards are sold out.
Here's your explanation for lack of PS4's :laugh:
www.reuters.com/article/us-lidl-france-playstation-scuffle/pepper-spray-and-scuffles-as-bargain-hunters-crowd-lidl-launch-in-france-idUSKBN23O261#:~:text=ORGEVAL%2C%20France%20(Reuters)%20%2D,retail%20price%20of%20299%20euros
ddarko
The DigiTimes report that said Zen3 would be delayed till 2021 also said the Zen2 XT processors would launch on July 7. Digitimes is known globally for their accuracy (sarcasm).
The July 7th is accurate for Zen2 XT sales though
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#20
ARF
jesdals
Availability april 1. 2021...
Turmania
Launch date 21st of December 2020. Product availability on the stores June 1st 2021. Hey all within rules.
So long delays between soft and hard releases don't happen.

June 1st 2021 we will be talking about Zen 4, DDR5, PCIe 5,
and Zen 3 will not be news or interesting anymore.
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#21
dicktracy
Good. The XTs are still too slow in gaming. Get Zen3 out now and leave slow Zen2 for slow consoles where being slow makes sense.
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#22
Vayra86
...and meanwhile, Intel is working hard on their press release for 19th gen CPUs called Cove-19. To be released in 2026
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#23
RealNeil
Meh,...I'm willing to wait for it to release. (got plenty of power going on already)
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#24
ARF
Vayra86
...and meanwhile, Intel is working hard on their press release for 19th gen CPUs called Cove-19. To be released in 2026
That will be Corona Lake with integrated virus hardware protection and built on 1.9nm or 19 ångström.
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#25
Makaveli
Rowsol
Uh, so what happened to skipping 7nm and going to 5?
Oh, I never knew it was a rumor, I thought it was official. Then again I only skimmed a single article about it so, yeah.
Unless you see an official quote from The Vendor don't believe half the crap you read on the internet.
dicktracy
Good. The XTs are still too slow in gaming. Get Zen3 out now and leave slow Zen2 for slow consoles where being slow makes sense.
I have no problem gaming on my "Slow" Zen2 chip. Unless you are high refresh gaming on 2080ti at 1080p its a non issue except for the fanboys.
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