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I had a TT core X9, not sure if it was a copy of a CL or not, but was pretty well made, material seemed thick, was very sturdy, ut in the end too big for me, was as big as a coffee table lol.
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They went under due to a few factors, tarrif's eating profit, loss of a large client and being sued by thermal take for copying their own designs.
As far as build quality I can't see why anyone would not be impressed some panels weren't able exactly rigid but compared to 90% of the market they were like comparing a tank to a Barbie car, personally I'm the type of person that if I'm not happy with a product I simply fix it I know that's not a usual thing to do but it's what I and I'm sure others would do. Their designs were industrial so adding some extruded angle and tapping a few holes never seemed like an issue to me but then I'm the type of person to cut huge holes out of cases for better airflow.View attachment 220088
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Motherboard | Msi b550m Mortar +WiFi |
Cooling | Cryorig m9 |
Memory | Crucial Ballistix c16 B-die 2x8gb |
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Storage | WD black sn750 256gb (OS), crucial mx500 1tb(storage),Hitatchi ?? 7200rpm 500gb(Temp files) |
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Cl quote:I will say again. AFAIK Thermaltake never had any litigation against them. Caselabs came up with a receipt (faked) that someone who worked at TT bought one and slandered TT. It was for that where Thermaltake said they could cause issues. CL apologized to Tt over it, so in the world view showing fault. Otherwise they could have just went away with integrity, but chose not to. There were also rumors that a TT employee stole their ideas from a Lan, where does it end?
Unless you can find proof of litigation it's all a cop out rumor from CL.
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I wouldn't say they failed at basic business as they ran a company well before Caselabs was a thing, just there's not a lot of designs or patents involved in sheet aluminium. It was when they started folding said sheets things got complicated for them.Basically CL fails at basic business and when the market heated up they could not adjust to market pressures.
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I wouldn't say they failed at basic business as they ran a company well before Caselabs was a thing, just there's not a lot of designs or patents involved in sheet aluminium. It was when they started folding said sheets things got complicated for them.
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System Name | EVA-01 |
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Cooling | ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans |
Memory | PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz. |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition |
Storage | Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ |
Case | Thermaltake Core P3 TG |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas |
Power Supply | be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W |
Mouse | ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk |
Keyboard | ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk |
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thermaltake sued caselabs over designs
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Processor | i5-760 @ 3.8ghz + turbo ~goes wayyyyyyyyy fast cuz turboooooz~ |
Motherboard | P55-GD80 ~best motherboard ever designed~ |
Cooling | NH-D15 ~double stack thot twerk all day~ |
Memory | 16GB Crucial Ballistix LP ~memory gone AWOL~ |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 970 ~*~GOLDEN EDITION~*~ RAWRRRRRR |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 850 Evo (OS X, *nix), 128GB Samsung 840 Pro (W10 Pro), 1TB SpinPoint F3 ~best in class |
Display(s) | ASUS VW246H ~best 24" you've seen *FULL HD* *1O80PP* *SLAPS*~ |
Case | FT02-W ~the W stands for white but it's brushed aluminum except for the disgusting ODD bays; *cries* |
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Power Supply | 850W EVGA SuperNova G2 ~hot fire like champagne~ |
Mouse | CM Spawn ~cmcz R c00l seth mcfarlane darawss~ |
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Software | integrated into the chassis |
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Sorry, “threatened with a lawsuit.” Why are you such a fan boi/hater lol? If you can’t read between the lines, we’ll, I don’t know what to tell you.Where, when, where is that story?
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Power Supply | be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W |
Mouse | ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk |
Keyboard | ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk |
Software | Windows 11 |
Why are you such a fan boi/hater
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Cooling | NH-D15 ~double stack thot twerk all day~ |
Memory | 16GB Crucial Ballistix LP ~memory gone AWOL~ |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 970 ~*~GOLDEN EDITION~*~ RAWRRRRRR |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 850 Evo (OS X, *nix), 128GB Samsung 840 Pro (W10 Pro), 1TB SpinPoint F3 ~best in class |
Display(s) | ASUS VW246H ~best 24" you've seen *FULL HD* *1O80PP* *SLAPS*~ |
Case | FT02-W ~the W stands for white but it's brushed aluminum except for the disgusting ODD bays; *cries* |
Audio Device(s) | A LOT |
Power Supply | 850W EVGA SuperNova G2 ~hot fire like champagne~ |
Mouse | CM Spawn ~cmcz R c00l seth mcfarlane darawss~ |
Keyboard | CM QF Rapid - Browns ~fastrrr kees for fstr teens~ |
Software | integrated into the chassis |
Benchmark Scores | 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 |
System Name | EVA-01 |
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Processor | Intel i7 13700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition |
Cooling | ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans |
Memory | PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz. |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition |
Storage | Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ |
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Feel free to fill me in but, as a lawyer, I know what a cease and desist means, and it’s implications, especially to a tiny company with low margins. Having followed the drama, I’m sympathetic to CL’s side of the story, but I might not know what you know. All I have is heresay, but I’m uncomfortable calling that “lies” and “BS,” given the two companies reputations.
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Benchmark Scores | Lots of them: https://hwbot.org/user/punx223/ |
Feel free to fill me in but, as a lawyer, I know what a cease and desist means, and it’s implications, especially to a tiny company with low margins. Having followed the drama, I’m sympathetic to CL’s side of the story, but I might not know what you know. All I have is heresay, but I’m uncomfortable calling that “lies” and “BS,” given the two companies reputations.
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I loved CL's designs as I'm sure many did, so apart from opinions or hearsay the fact was Caselabs didn't own any design patents so if Tt copied CL design with the W100 was because the design was good and they could copy it with no legal ramifications.As a lawyer, you also know that in many situations a cease and desist can easily be challenged if it was a BS bully tactic by a company.
As someone who was blamed directly by CL in their BS and lies, I can tell you that Sneeky is telling you the truth.
I have not and will not go into all of the details, but let's just say this... I met the owners of CL at PDXLAN, and even thanked them for supporting a great community. I saw their product and told them"You guys make some great chassis, but be ready as we have our own modular chassis coming soon"... Far different than the story from father and son owners of CL, in which case I had asked them if I could take pictures to send to my design team so we can make it (Who the hell with any sense would actually do that?!?)
My only saving grace in the situation was the abundance of people (modders and attendees who observed the kind exchange) who backed what actually took place when this all came about while I was in TW for Computex.
The major issue came down to a lot of media taking CL at their word and publishing stories saying Tt copied a bunch of products including the Swiftech apogee. Which I personally found quite humorous, as I am good friends with Gabe the founder/owner of Swiftech, and even helped set up comms with Tt and Swiftech to license and have the block produced by Swiftech.
Long story short, I worked with the Thermaltake design team to revolutionize their case models, and many of the effects can be seen to this day in various capacities.
Do I think the Core W and Core X series was similar to the CL offerings? yea, probably, but then again, before raising the pitchforks, you should probably ask Ben from Mountain Mods, his feelings when CL essentially took his idea and made it their own... or Antec about Fractal... the list can go on forever.
Anyways, at least now you know the basics of the shit show that was CL trying to save face as their bad business decisions for their main company sunk the lot. (TLR CL's parent company f****d up and leveraged themselves too far and when a major client defaulted they could not recover...hence CL dies with the main ALU/metal fab company)
Even if Tt had never made any of the core cases everyone claims was a ripoff of CL, the writing was on the wall, and when the client defaulted, they would have faltered.
Cheers,
Shannon (Formerly of Thermaltake)
As a lawyer, you also know that in many situations a cease and desist can easily be challenged if it was a BS bully tactic by a company.
As someone who was blamed directly by CL in their BS and lies, I can tell you that Sneeky is telling you the truth.
I have not and will not go into all of the details, but let's just say this... I met the owners of CL at PDXLAN, and even thanked them for supporting a great community. I saw their product and told them"You guys make some great chassis, but be ready as we have our own modular chassis coming soon"... Far different than the story from father and son owners of CL, in which case I had asked them if I could take pictures to send to my design team so we can make it (Who the hell with any sense would actually do that?!?)
My only saving grace in the situation was the abundance of people (modders and attendees who observed the kind exchange) who backed what actually took place when this all came about while I was in TW for Computex.
The major issue came down to a lot of media taking CL at their word and publishing stories saying Tt copied a bunch of products including the Swiftech apogee. Which I personally found quite humorous, as I am good friends with Gabe the founder/owner of Swiftech, and even helped set up comms with Tt and Swiftech to license and have the block produced by Swiftech.
Long story short, I worked with the Thermaltake design team to revolutionize their case models, and many of the effects can be seen to this day in various capacities.
Do I think the Core W and Core X series was similar to the CL offerings? yea, probably, but then again, before raising the pitchforks, you should probably ask Ben from Mountain Mods, his feelings when CL essentially took his idea and made it their own... or Antec about Fractal... the list can go on forever.
Anyways, at least now you know the basics of the shit show that was CL trying to save face as their bad business decisions for their main company sunk the lot. (TLR CL's parent company f****d up and leveraged themselves too far and when a major client defaulted they could not recover...hence CL dies with the main ALU/metal fab company)
Even if Tt had never made any of the core cases everyone claims was a ripoff of CL, the writing was on the wall, and when the client defaulted, they would have faltered.
Cheers,
Shannon (Formerly of Thermaltake)
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The major issue came down to a lot of media taking CL at their word and publishing stories saying Tt copied a bunch of products including the Swiftech apogee. Which I personally found quite humorous, as I am good friends with Gabe the founder/owner of Swiftech, and even helped set up comms with Tt and Swiftech to license and have the block produced by Swiftech.
Long story short, I worked with the Thermaltake design team to revolutionize their case models, and many of the effects can be seen to this day in various capacities.
Processor | 13700KF Undervolted @ 5.6/ 5.5, 4.8Ghz Ring 200W PL1 |
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Motherboard | MSI 690-I PRO |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 w/ Arctic P12 Fans |
Memory | 48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 FE |
Storage | 2x 2TB WDC SN850, 1TB Samsung 960 prr |
Display(s) | Alienware 32" 4k 240hz OLED |
Case | SLIGER S620 |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Xlite V2 |
Keyboard | RoyalAxe |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | They're pretty good, nothing crazy. |
if they did copy, they made affordable versions of CL's stupidly priced cases. If someone can get essentially the same item cheaper they will. Also they charged a shit ton for their cases and defaulted on a bill, what where they doing with all the cash they made on the cases? living it up. If the cost of the aluminium, to make it, going from $45 to $87 in a case that cost well over $600 was enough to take down CL, that company wasn't doing so hot anyway.
They did that because CL was a low volume producer that was based in the US -- they can't compete with TT on cost ever. But -- that design was theirs. The correct, ethical way would have been to pursue ath a license or for TT to spend the R&D money to make at least a somewhat unique design. I just hope CL comes back, is successful, and sues Thermalfake for lost license fees - so at least the engineers who came up with that case get something.
I'm not saying CL was doing hot or not... just saying that rewarding talentless stealing because you can underpay factory workers overseas is not something that's legal or ethical.
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That's kind stupid, to pursue a license for a look that is not protected. This is like Apple patenting and trying to defend corners on their phones. And really any business 101 copycats are an eventual outcome. It's the second thing they ask entrepreneurs in Shark Tank, what are you going to do when the product is knocked off? And the truth is CL did not invent that look, others came before them. They should have scaled up to bring the price down to make it harder for them to be under cut but they didn't. They literally failed at business 101. Hell take Porsche for example who even used this eventuality in their marketing slogans, Porsche there is no substitute in the 80's. Hello Mazda RX7... hello Nissan GTR. The markets are littered with same same copies of everything.They did that because CL was a low volume producer that was based in the US -- they can't compete with TT on cost ever. But -- that design was theirs. The correct, ethical way would have been to pursue ath a license or for TT to spend the R&D money to make at least a somewhat unique design. I just hope CL comes back, is successful, and sues Thermalfake for lost license fees - so at least the engineers who came up with that case get something.
I'm not saying CL was doing hot or not... just saying that rewarding talentless stealing because you can underpay factory workers overseas is not something that's legal or ethical.
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950X, i9 10900K, i9 10980XE, i9 12900K |
Motherboard | X570 Godlike, Maximus XII Extreme, Maximus XIII Extreme, Rampage VI APEX , Z690-TBD |
Cooling | Custom Liquid cooling |
Memory | too much |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3090, TITAN RTX, TITAN V, TITAN Xp, 2080 Ti, 5700XT, Radeon VII |
Storage | 1.5TB 905P AIC, 1.2TB 750 AIC, 2TB Sabrent Rocket M.2, 2TB 970 PRO, 1TB 960 PRO |
Display(s) | Main: ASUS XG438Q, Asus PG27UQ, Ancillary array: Acer EB321HQU |
Case | Lian Li PC011D XL, be quiet! Silent Base 802, Dimastech Easy XL, Praxis Wetbench, Streacom BC1 |
Audio Device(s) | Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless, some PC speakers, onboard codec, (For now) |
Power Supply | be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500W, Corsair AX1600i, Enermax Platimax 1050W, ASUS THOR 1200W |
Mouse | Logi G502, Logi G903 |
Keyboard | Das Prime 13 |
VR HMD | Vive Pro |
Software | Indeed |
Benchmark Scores | Lots of them: https://hwbot.org/user/punx223/ |
System Name | EVA-01 |
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Processor | Intel i7 13700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition |
Cooling | ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans |
Memory | PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz. |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition |
Storage | Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ |
Case | Thermaltake Core P3 TG |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas |
Power Supply | be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W |
Mouse | ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk |
Keyboard | ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk |
Software | Windows 11 |
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