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Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake Lineup Leaks

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Courtesy of Wccftech, we now have a complete picture of what Intel is planning to announce on the 27th of this month. The information is extremely detailed and covers no less than 14 different processor SKUs, ranging from the Core i9-13900K/KF to the Core i5-13400/F. All of the CPUs except the Core i5-13400/F and the upcoming Core i3 models will support memory speeds of up to DDR5 5600, whereas the lower end parts will be limited to DDR5 4800. All 13th Gen Intel CPUs should also support DDR4 3200 memory. Just as with the 12th Gen CPUs, the 13th Gen KF and F will not support ECC memory and of course, no IGP.

There's nothing that really stands out when looking at the specs and most things are expected based on earlier rumours. The Core i9-13900K/KF will indeed boost up to 5.8 GHz on up to two cores and all P-cores will boost up to 5.4 GHz, with the E-cores boosting up to 4.3 GHz. The Core i7-13700K/KF will have a much bigger gap here, compared to the the Core i7-12700K/KF versus the Core i9-12900K/KF where there was a 200 MHz boost frequency gap, which has now been extended to 400 MHz, as the Core i7-13700K/KF only boosts up to 5.4 GHz on two cores. Interestingly, the base clock frequency for the P-cores seems to have dropped 200 MHz on theK/KF parts, compared to 12th Gen equivalents in the product stack. For the remaining details, have a look at the data provided below.


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5.5GHz across eight P cores, with one core boosting up to 5.8GHz... phew.

The non-K options look attractive as well to be honest.
 

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5.5GHz across eight P cores, with one core boosting up to 5.8GHz... phew.

The non-K options look attractive as well to be honest.
Two cores, if you look carefully. I nearly made the same mistake.
 

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Two cores, if you look carefully. I nearly made the same mistake.
Good catch for the 5.8. Strange how they detail TVB for one core, but the two core boost is the same?

Interesting differentiator seems that the K series and higher end non K models have ECC support, whereas the KF do not. Linus ripped Intel for slowing adoption rates of ECC, maybe that's changing?
 
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Too little frequency difference between 2C and nT for 13900/13700/13600? 65W models, I wonder what the PL2 will be for them.
Also interesting that 13900K E 2C max is the same as 16C.
 

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Good catch for the 5.8. Strange how they detail TVB for one core, but the two core boost is the same?

Interesting differentiator seems that the K series and higher end non K models have ECC support, whereas the KF do not. Linus ripped Intel for slowing adoption rates of ECC, maybe that's changing?
Same as for the 12th Gen by the looks of it.
 

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Same as for the 12th Gen by the looks of it.
I wonder if it's due to the DDR5 support? I know DDR5 isn't true ECC, but it's halfway there.
 
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So 13400F really is Adler Lake 12400F, just with E-cores enabled this time. Interesting, but also means that 12400F will still be a great budget buy.

Yup, if my 12100F wont be enough for my use case anymore then those 2 are my planned upgrade paths in my budget range + what my mobo can handle with no issues. 'for now the 12100 is plenty enough for me'
 

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I wonder if it's due to the DDR5 support? I know DDR5 isn't true ECC, but it's halfway there.
That type of ECC doesn't count, as you can't have DDR5 without it.
 
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Those base clocks…will the chip ever hang out at such low frequencies?
 
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So Intel is planning to announce on the 27th of this month i5 13400/13400F?
In this case it will cause trouble to AMD for anyone interested at around or a bit less i5 12600K performance!

Announcing on the same day as AMD's 7000 availability?

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Whats up with the 13600K... single core 5.1Ghz, all core boost is also 5.1Ghz. Are these allocated silicon limitations per sku or Intel intentionally keeping the higher clocks on the higher core count variants?
 
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Those base clocks…will the chip ever hang out at such low frequencies?
In a worst case scenario, possibly.

Here's my 12700K running very close to base frequencies (3.6/2.7 GHz) under Prime95 AVX2 at 125W after configuring load voltage correction in motherboard settings to the specification limit.

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In a worst case scenario, possibly.

Here's my 12700K running very close to base frequencies (3.6/2.7 GHz) under Prime95 AVX2 at 125W after configuring load voltage correction in motherboard settings to the specification limit.

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It makes me wonder how close to worst case are actually running in all the different rigs. Now that AMD is pushing higher power and temps, they will have a similar problem.

A buddy of mine had to cut into the frame of his case to fit a 3070. I told him his GPU/CPU are probably throttling like hell in case designed for much smaller HSF assemblies. That means he gets no where near review numbers without buying a whole different case and cooling setup. He wouldn’t believe me.
 
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In a worst case scenario, possibly.

Here's my 12700K running very close to base frequencies (3.6/2.7 GHz) under Prime95 AVX2 at 125W after configuring load voltage correction in motherboard settings to the specification limit.

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You need to manually limit the power limit to PBP for this. That's also exactly what PBP is: power consumption at base clocks in some power virus Intel uses to test CPUs.
 
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genuinly dont know why anyone would get this with Meteorlake coming
 
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It makes me wonder how close to worst case are actually running in all the different rigs. Now that AMD is pushing higher power and temps, they will have a similar problem.

Most configurations won't need to correct load voltages up excessively, but those that need to (perhaps due to poor power delivery by the motherboard coupled with high operating temperatures) may indeed see Intel's base clocks when running at the specified base power, and under the heaviest workloads.

In the screenshot I simply simulated such need by setting that correction up to the maximum allowed limit, in addition to disabling TVB Voltage Optimization (it decreases voltage by about 1.5 mV/C if the processor is running below 100C).

You need to manually limit the power limit to PBP for this. That's also exactly what PBP is: power consumption at base clocks in some power virus Intel uses to test CPUs.

I did limit power in the test to 125W as the data from HWinfo shows. I don't know what worse power virus than Prime95/SmallFFT AVX2 there is.
 
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Curious about 13100F. Not that I would buy it, already having 12100F myself, just curiosity ;).

Same, as a 12100F owner too.:)
Just curious how much better its gonna be or more like similar.
 
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Announcing on the same day as AMD's 7000 availability?

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Whats up with the 13600K... single core 5.1Ghz, all core boost is also 5.1Ghz. Are these allocated silicon limitations per sku or Intel intentionally keeping the higher clocks on the higher core count variants?
According to Wccftech, if it comes true, it will be a very good exclusive info since all the other sites were reporting for Q4 2022 only the K/KF models, in any case Wccftech (and VideoCardz) are doing a very good job reporting about rumors & news, the last Q that I watch Wccftech site, it has even more exclusive info than VideoCardz and interesting content also for mobile and games for a kind of generic tech type site, good job over there!

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Intentionally like always, but this time the 2C Turbo restriction to be the same with nT it seems kinda strange decision.
 
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Got the 12100f and it's great for gaming. Will upgrade when 13th gen is cheaper :))
 
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For the Intel CPU's that support ECC is that "official" or "unofficial" support? I really disliked the fact AMD had ECC support in their Ryzen CPU's but only in the pro versions was it "officially" supported.
 
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Looks like 13700K will be about like a 12900KS on single, but notably faster than 12900KS in multi.
 
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For the Intel CPU's that support ECC is that "official" or "unofficial" support? I really disliked the fact AMD had ECC support in their Ryzen CPU's but only in the pro versions was it "officially" supported.
Should be official, 12900k already does that but I haven't seen any mobos with ECC support, though considering there probably 100's of motherboards that support ADL I obviously haven't scanned all of them.
ECC is really a "prosumer" feature, just the fact that Zen (desktop) CPU's support it should be good enough as long as AMD doesn't forces their users to always get pro chips for ECC.
 
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