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Considering the amount of times AI gets things wrong (due to it getting its info from the internet, which is also wrong a lot of times), and us humans being too lazy to verify our sources, this is just a convenient tool to get misinformed. Bad idea.
 
AusWolf said:
Considering the amount of times AI gets things wrong (due to it getting its info from the internet, which is also wrong a lot of times), and us humans being too lazy to verify our sources, this is just a convenient tool to get misinformed. Bad idea.
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One thing I've seen as a potential problem with AI is a runaway AI apocalypse; I'm not thinking SKYNET, more an AI version of Idiocracy.

AI is good now because AI training is based on 99% human-generated and human-vetted content. Garbage content is vetted by popularity and falls off the bottom into irrelevance fast which is fine.

As more of the web becomes AI-generated content, found through AI-vetted search, upvoted by AIs, the percentage of junk, erroneous content used for AI training and machine-learning becomes potentially fatal to the effectiveness of AI evolution; we run the risk of seeing AI training level-off at best, or possibly regress like in Idiocracy as we approach a global internet scale of classic GIGO. Darwin's "survival of the fittest" applies to the evolution of content AIs as well as the evolution of species. If the criteria for survival change from "what people want" to "what an AI thinks is best" you get a feedback loop where anything could happen and 99% of the possibilities are garbage.

Essentially, until AIs get really really good at weeding out bogus junk and nonsense data, AI itself poses a long-term risk to the intelligence of AI.
 
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Agreed bing search/ msnbc/ and a host of other liberal shit news sites "I like to forget" and you can see clearly what AI will become.
Crap servers straight to your desktop/... lol
 
Chrispy_ said:
One thing I've seen as a potential problem with AI is a runaway AI apocalypse; I'm not thinking SKYNET, more an AI version of Idiocracy.

AI is good now because AI training is based on 99% human-generated and human-vetted content. Garbage content is vetted by popularity and falls off the bottom into irrelevance fast which is fine.
As more of the web becomes AI-generated content, found through AI-vetted search, the percentage of junk, erroneous content used for AI training and machine-learning becomes potentially fatal to the effectiveness of AI improvement, we run the risk of seeing AI training level-off at best, or regress like Idiocracty as we approach a global internet scale of classic GIGO. Darwin's "survival of the fittest" applies to the evolution of content as well as the evolution of species. If the criteria for survival change from "what people want" to "what generates the best AI result" and it's AIs themselves judging that competition, the entire process could simply grind to a catastrophic halt in a massive feedback loop!

Essentially, until AIs get really really good at weeding out bogus junk and nonsense data, AI itself poses a long-term risk to the intelligence of AI.
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Since you mentioned Idiocracy, you probably agree that Darwin's "survival of the fittest" doesn't apply anymore. It's "survival of the one who procreates the most" now, both in terms of human beings, and of information. This is why AI is dangerous. It's way more convenient to ask ChatGPT a question than to check actual, verified sources.
 
It reminds me of the times when some phones had an "internet" button, pressing which could cost you a quite a few pennies. Now it will cost you your privacy and dignity. Oh well, I guess Microsoft was right about Windows 10 being the last Windows, at least for me it certainly will. Even it is only good for basic, low priority things like games - and only after ripping half of it and firewalling the rest.
 
AusWolf said:
Since you mentioned Idiocracy, you probably agree that Darwin's "survival of the fittest" doesn't apply anymore. It's "survival of the one who procreates the most" now, both in terms of human beings, and of information. This is why AI is dangerous. It's way more convenient to ask ChatGPT a question than to check actual, verified sources.
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Yeah, at the risk of sweeping generalisations here - human physical evolution stopped the minute modern medical healthcare took over from nature.

As for evolution of intelligence, the highest IQ humans on the planet procreate at a very low rate because they're busy being employed in demanding (and well-paid) jobs. Meanwhile you have the poorest examples of society with no money, education, or resources who are left with little else to do with their time other than drink, smoke, and f*ck. It's a waste of their potential and a dead-end for the evolution of intelligent civilisation. I'm not saying it's bad life or that I begrudge them that, but they outnumber the geniuses who would previously have been the next evolutionary jump by 10,000:1

I don't want to sound like a Hitler here, but it's just basic math; look at the total number of descendants of Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, or Stephen Hawking and compare that to the number of descendants of a random person living in a rural Somalian fishing village from the same sort of time. Chances are that each Somalian had 8-10 children before they were 30, generation after generation. Einstein, Tesla and Hawking had just 6 children between the three of them.
 
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Chrispy_ said:
Yeah, at the risk of sweeping generalisations here - human physical evolution stopped the minute modern medical healthcare took over from nature.
As for intelligence, the highest IQ humans on the planet procreate at a very low rate because they're busy being employed in demanding (and well-paid jobs). Meanwhile you have the poorest examples of society with no money, education, or resources left with little else to do with their time other than drink, smoke, and f*ck. I'm not saying it's bad life or that I begrudge them that, but they outnumber the geniuses who would previously have been the next evolutionary jump by 10,000:1

I don't want to sound like a Hitler here, but look at the total number of descendants of Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, or Stephen Hawking and compare that to the number of descendants of a random person living in a rural Somalian fishing village from the same sort of time. Chances are that each Somalian had 8-10 children before they were 30, generation after generation.
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Exactly! :)

And to stay on topic, the same applies to information, unfortunately. I'm sure the number of searches on scientific topics, like astronomy on TikTok far exceeds that of reputable sources, like SpaceTime, Cool Worlds or Dr Becky on Youtube (I'm not even going as far as scientific journals or university publications). The internet is a great tool to share valuable information, but it is even greater at spreading stupidity and ignorance, and AI is only oil for this dumpster fire of human "evolution".
 
AusWolf said:
The internet is a great tool to share valuable information, but it is even greater at spreading stupidity and ignorance, and AI is only oil for this dumpster fire of human "evolution".
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QFT.

AI may well speed things up but it's not going to speed up the march of progress, it's going to speed up the race to the bottom. I'd love to be wrong but I'm a seasoned realist and my cynicism is so often proved accurate. Let's just hope I am wrong this time because actually-useful, benevolent sci-fi level AI would be the best thing to happen to humanity in years. It could solve war, economics, and international legislation given enough time and acceptance and that sure sounds better to me than Wall-E, Idiocracy, or buying Bezos whatever his next Megabillionaire project is after the infamous Penisrocket to space.
 
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Chrispy_ said:
AI may well speed things up but it's not going to speed up the march of progress, it's going to speed up the race to the bottom. I'd love to be wrong but I'm a seasoned realist and my cynicism is so often proved accurate. Let's just hope I am wrong this time because actually-useful, benevolent sci-fi level AI would be the best thing to happen to humanity in years.
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I agree. But this is not it. People think it is because it's called AI for some reason even though it's just a glorified search engine with a language model. Had it been called ML, it wouldn't be half as dangerous as it is.
 
AusWolf said:
Considering the amount of times AI gets things wrong (due to it getting its info from the internet, which is also wrong a lot of times), and us humans being too lazy to verify our sources, this is just a convenient tool to get misinformed. Bad idea.
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Pretty soon, AI will be driving cars better than we can or do, most crashes are human error.
 
Chrispy_ said:
Yeah, at the risk of sweeping generalisations here - human physical evolution stopped the minute modern medical healthcare took over from nature.

As for evolution of intelligence, the highest IQ humans on the planet procreate at a very low rate because they're busy being employed in demanding (and well-paid) jobs. Meanwhile you have the poorest examples of society with no money, education, or resources who are left with little else to do with their time other than drink, smoke, and f*ck. It's a waste of their potential and a dead-end for the evolution of intelligent civilisation. I'm not saying it's bad life or that I begrudge them that, but they outnumber the geniuses who would previously have been the next evolutionary jump by 10,000:1

I don't want to sound like a Hitler here, but it's just basic math; look at the total number of descendants of Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, or Stephen Hawking and compare that to the number of descendants of a random person living in a rural Somalian fishing village from the same sort of time. Chances are that each Somalian had 8-10 children before they were 30, generation after generation. Einstein, Tesla and Hawking had just 6 children between the three of them.
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The problem with this is that it has been proven that smart people don't have superior genes and it's not as easy as asking two smart peoples to procreate. Beside that is exactly eugenics/racial theories. People always fall for the same easy scheme, especially when they have not studied the question and have only films/tv/podcasters/youtube as references. Besides the fundamental question always remains the same: why would you want to create smarter humans? For what purpose?
 
FoulOnWhite said:
Pretty soon, AI will be driving cars better than we can or do, most crashes are human error.
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I don't want a computer to drive my car, thank you. ;)

PapaTaipei said:
The problem with this is that it has been proven that smart people don't have superior genes and it's not as easy as asking two smart peoples to procreate. Beside that is exactly eugenics/racial theories. People always fall for the same easy scheme, especially when they have not studied the question and have only films/tv/podcasters/youtube as references. Besides the fundamental question always remains the same: why would you want to create smarter humans? For what purpose?
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It's not about genes. It's about education. Smart people pay more attention to give their kids a proper upbringing. Have you heard the term "look at the mother, marry the daughter" before? It exists for a reason. Parents are the no.1 role models for every child.

And the purpose is simple: to care more about the planet and our fellow human beings. A society of smarter people is a better place to live in.
 
If we take AI into account, is it still true that the sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant, while the population keeps growing?
 
AusWolf said:
I don't want a computer to drive my car, thank you. ;)


It's not about genes. It's about education. Smart people pay more attention to give their kids a proper upbringing. Have you heard the term "look at the mother, marry the daughter" before? It exists for a reason. Parents are the no.1 role models for every child.

And the purpose is simple: to care more about the planet and our fellow human beings. A society of smarter people is a better place to live in.
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More automation=less intelligence
 
FoulOnWhite said:
Pretty soon, AI will be driving cars better than we can or do, most crashes are human error.
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Hi,
Last one I saw was just another speeding nut case :laugh:
 
Yep well latey on most Computers now I see we are fighting A.I. Copilot seems to have a hidden agenda. I seen many times it switches the main broswer to edge reguardless if your default is chrome. Microsoft wants you do use their version of chrome all the time. I personally cannot stand how Edge tries so dame hard to take over everything. I cannot stand even new computers open edge and bang MSN ad's everywhere have to turn all the BS off. Also It loves to run in the background all the time have to turn that off as well. Microsoft has returned to it's old 90's days when it thinks it's better than everyone else. I remember the lawsuits in the 90's.
 
AusWolf said:
A society of smarter people is a better place to live in.
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But harder to rule and control. That's why keeping people in poverty is the main key, the other one is media brainwashing. So as a result you have a society that's working against itself, creating a generations of puppets one after another. Until we kill each other fighting over a slice of bread or a philosophical dispute, doesn't matter.
 
ThrashZone said:
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Last one I saw was just another speeding nut case :laugh:
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Veseleil said:
But harder to rule and control. That's why keeping people in poverty is the main key, the other one is media brainwashing. So as a result you have a society that's working against itself, creating a generations of puppets one after another. Until we kill each other fighting over a slice of bread or a philosophical dispute, doesn't matter.
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We'll kill each other over a book, idol or symbol first.
 
This discussion got really philosophical and edgy considering that the news is just about MS doing a silly move once again with replacing a button on a keyboard.
Gotta love TPU.
 
I am mostly worried by how easy it is to manipulate and camouflage advertisements through said algorithms if configured correctly, we cannot rely on them for unbiased information, hell not even for correct information. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan this is lame, I would've never thought that technological revolutions would be something that would make me worried, tech should be cool dammit! Cool!
 
Veseleil said:
But harder to rule and control.
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But there's less need for it to be controlled as smarter people need less control to function properly. So I get what you're saying, more dumb robots disguised as humans = governments and mega corporations justify their own existence more easily and continue their parasitic practices.
 
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