Ram upgrade on 10 years old DELL LATITUDE E5440

[SKRDPTSGL]

It's worth to upgrade ram to 16gb?It has 2gb graphics card(gtx 760),an i5 4310u for cpu a 2'5 SATA III ssd and can support ddr3l 1600mhz 16gb.I've find this kit : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10084735/S...chytita-1600-gia-Laptop-SP008GLSTU160N02.html Is is suitable?Also is there anything else i can upgrade with low cost?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Memory controllers adapt well to what they have at hand. In this case, 4 GB operate in dual-channel mode (half of the larger module + the smaller module). 2 GB operate in single-channel mode (the other half of the larger module).

While that is true for some chipsets, that laptop does not support such functionality, IIRC.

To spend as little as possible, I'd even consider buying a single 8 GB module, retain the 4 GB one and throw out the smallest one.

I would disagree here. It is always best to match the dimms, spec for spec. Mismatching is never optimal.

But what is the correct type of memory? Will normal DDR3 work reliably? Ark says that mobile Haswell needs the low-voltage variant, DDR3L.

"Needs" is not the right term. Haswell mobile is optimized for DDR3L to save on battery use but not exclusive to it. Normal DDR3 sodimms will work fine.

 

[Wirko]

While that is true for some chipsets, that laptop does not support such functionality, IIRC.

It's in the IMC, it doesn't depend on the chipset (although you never know with Intel). "Flex Mode", here is the data sheet, pages 20/21.

I would disagree here. It is always best to match the dimms, spec for spec. Mismatching is never optimal.

True. I wouldn't strictly avoid mixing different DIMMs but I would only buy a different module after testing the mix in my notebook first.

"Needs" is not the right term. Haswell mobile is optimized for DDR3L to save on battery use but not exclusive to it. Normal DDR3 sodimms will work fine.

I don't have first-hand experience, I'll just note that Dell says otherwise.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's in the IMC, it doesn't depend on the chipset (although you never know with Intel). "Flex Mode", here is the data sheet, pages 20/21.

Fair enough. I still never do that and always install matching sticks.

I don't have first-hand experience, I'll just note that Dell says otherwise.

I have personally installed standard DDR3 sodimms in 4th gen laptops to no ill effect. It is possible that a dual mode spec exists and many sodimms can do either mode. But I've never looked into it that much. Never had a problem to date.

However, since the documentation does exist that clearly states this, it would be better to stick with PC3L sodimms.

That said, a 16GB kit of DDR3L is still an inexpensive and very worthwhile upgrade for this system.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Normal voltage sticks might just affect the battery life a little bit, afaik it should work but if DDR3L sticks are available within 5€, I don't see why not

Keep us updated OP

 

[SKRDPTSGL]

English?

 

[:D:D]

Some people had problems with 1.5V DDR3 vs 1.35V DDR3L with fixed 1.35V supply, some did not. Why take the risk?

Some timings with dual core i7-4600m

For standard DDR3L 8GB
tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-CR
11-11-11-28-1 1600MT/s
12-12-12-30-1 1866MT/s

Higher spec DDR3L 4GB
11-13-13-24-1 2400MT/s

SPD of two different brands working Dual Channel and can be clocked to 1866MT/s

 

[iameatingjam]

It's worth to upgrade ram to 16gb?It has 2gb graphics card(gtx 760),an i5 4310u for cpu a 2'5 SATA III ssd and can support ddr3l 1600mhz 16gb.I've find this kit : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10084735/S...chytita-1600-gia-Laptop-SP008GLSTU160N02.html Is is suitable?Also is there anything else i can upgrade with low cost?

I don't see a problem with it. I keep some old computers around, using one of them right now. I usually upgrade their ram, if for no other reason than its extremely cheap.

Btw, you don't have to find ram that matches the speed. If its too fast, it will just downclock it. If you find ram thats faster and also cheaper, I would buy that. Though I see its pretty cheap already. But maybe after shipping there's a difference? Idk, thought it was worth mentioning.

 

[eidairaman1]

No other section about ram identification?

 

[SKRDPTSGL]

No other section about ram identification?

Some people had problems with 1.5V DDR3 vs 1.35V DDR3L with fixed 1.35V supply, some did not. Why take the risk?

Some timings with dual core i7-4600m

For standard DDR3L 8GB
tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-CR
11-11-11-28-1 1600MT/s
12-12-12-30-1 1866MT/s

Higher spec DDR3L 4GB
11-13-13-24-1 2400MT/s

SPD of two different brands working Dual Channel and can be clocked to 1866MT/s
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Mine has 4+2 gb.I took it to a specialist and did that shit.I'll send the details to suggest me what to do with the ram and if i can put a better ssd.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I took it to a specialist and did that shit.

Wow. What a specialist... At least you know who to avoid.

 

[eidairaman1]

I don't see a problem with it. I keep some old computers around, using one of them right now. I usually upgrade their ram, if for no other reason than its extremely cheap.

Btw, you don't have to find ram that matches the speed. If its too fast, it will just downclock it. If you find ram thats faster and also cheaper, I would buy that. Though I see its pretty cheap already. But maybe after shipping there's a diff

Mine has 4+2 gb.I took it to a specialist and did that shit.I'll send the details to suggest me what to do with the ram and if i can put a better ssd.

Ok you have a micron and a hynix mixed, ddr3L.

SODIMM obsolete part detail

Access detailed specifications and information about specific SODIMM (Small Outline Dual In-line Memory Module) parts in Micron's obsolete part catalog.

www.micron.com

HMT425S6AFR6A-PB Download

Download HMT425S6AFR6A-PB Datasheet. File Size: 1151.36 Kbytes. Part #: HMT425S6AFR6A-PB. Description: DDR3L SDRAM Unbuffered SODIMMs Based on 4Gb A-die. Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconductor.

www.alldatasheet.com

MT16KTF1G64HZ-1G6E1 is a 8GB Module, buy 2​

Amazon.com

I don't see a problem with it. I keep some old computers around, using one of them right now. I usually upgrade their ram, if for no other reason than its extremely cheap.

Btw, you don't have to find ram that matches the speed. If its too fast, it will just downclock it. If you find ram thats faster and also cheaper, I would buy that. Though I see its pretty cheap already. But maybe after shipping there's a difference? Idk, thought it was worth mentioning.

In his situation I would stick with micron or hynix, i did find a micron from a dell store on amazon...

 

[lexluthermiester]

MT16KTF1G64HZ-1G6E1 is a 8GB Module, buy 2​

Amazon.com

They're in Greece...

 

[Shrek]

It's worth to upgrade ram to 16gb?

Run Speccy, if you are staying within 6GB there is no benefit to having more RAM

 

[lexluthermiester]

Run Speccy, if you are staying within 6GB there is no benefit to having more RAM

Not true. Even if only occasionally, if a system needs more RAM than it has, dipping into the swap-file can cause an otherwise snappy system slow to something akin to molasses in January. Sorry Shrek, but on this one you're off the mark. DDR3L is cheap. A 16GB kit will prevent anything like what I just described above and for $20 to $25ish, is an easy-breezy upgrade.

 

[remixedcat]

Not true. Even if only occasionally, if a system needs more RAM than it has, dipping into the swap-file can cause an otherwise snappy system slow to something akin to molasses in January. Sorry Shrek, but on this one you're off the mark. DDR3L is cheap. A 16GB kit will prevent anything like what I just described above and for $20 to $25ish, is an easy-breezy upgrade.

also the more swap usage the more wear n tear on the SSD too

 

[68Olds]

I have a Dell M3800 Haswell notebook that was headed to recycle. It had a single 8GB SODIMM when I got it. Added a 2nd module & have been happy with its performance.

A pair of the 8GB DDR3L SODIMM linked in the 1st post should work very well in your notebook. I would do it without question for 20 euro.

 

[eidairaman1]

They're in Greece...

Look up that particular model in greece then or amazon.eu

 

[SKRDPTSGL]

Ok you have a micron and a hynix mixed, ddr3L.

SODIMM obsolete part detail

Access detailed specifications and information about specific SODIMM (Small Outline Dual In-line Memory Module) parts in Micron's obsolete part catalog.

www.micron.com

HMT425S6AFR6A-PB Download

Download HMT425S6AFR6A-PB Datasheet. File Size: 1151.36 Kbytes. Part #: HMT425S6AFR6A-PB. Description: DDR3L SDRAM Unbuffered SODIMMs Based on 4Gb A-die. Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconductor.

www.alldatasheet.com

MT16KTF1G64HZ-1G6E1 is a 8GB Module, buy 2​

Amazon.com

In his situation I would stick with micron or hynix, i did find a micron from a dell store on amazon...

My laptop had 4gb of ram originally so none of those kits is the original.

Normal voltage sticks might just affect the battery life a little bit, afaik it should work but if DDR3L sticks are available within 5€, I don't see why not

Keep us updated OP

I have a Dell M3800 Haswell notebook that was headed to recycle. It had a single 8GB SODIMM when I got it. Added a 2nd module & have been happy with its performance.

A pair of the 8GB DDR3L SODIMM linked in the 1st post should work very well in your notebook. I would do it without question for 20 euro.

https://www.e-shop.gr/ram-gskill-f3-1600c11s-8gsl-8gb-so-dimm-ddr3l-1600mhz-standard-p-PER.557213 This one?

Normal voltage sticks might just affect the battery life a little bit, afaik it should work but if DDR3L sticks are available within 5€, I don't see why not

Keep us updated OP

Battery life?Battery is already dead.

Look up that particular model in greece then or amazon.eu

Can i buy this one?I found only used micron ram here and no suitable hynix.

 

[eidairaman1]

https://www.e-shop.gr/ram-gskill-f3-1600c11s-8gsl-8gb-so-dimm-ddr3l-1600mhz-standard-p-PER.557213 This one?


Battery life?Battery is already dead.


Can i buy this one?I found only used micron ram here and no suitable hynix.

What's the return policy?

 

[lexluthermiester]

also the more swap usage the more wear n tear on the SSD too

Exactly! With HDDs this was less of an issue because magnetic media can be written and over-written millions of times without much degradation. But with SSDs, the limit is measured in the hundreds or low thousands of write cycles. Yet another reason why the "More RAM the better" ideal rings true.

https://www.e-shop.gr/ram-gskill-f3-1600c11s-8gsl-8gb-so-dimm-ddr3l-1600mhz-standard-p-PER.557213 This one?

That's a good stick. The following is of equal quality and a better price;

RAM MUSHKIN 992038 8GB SO-DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHZ ESSENTIALS SERIES

Μνήμη υψηλής επίδοσης για το φορητό σας σύστημα. Η νέα σειρά της Mushkin αποτελεί μια πολ SKU:PER.574137

www.e-shop.gr

Get two, install, enjoy.

 

[KLiKzg]

It's worth to upgrade ram to 16gb?It has 2gb graphics card(gtx 760),an i5 4310u for cpu a 2'5 SATA III ssd and can support ddr3l 1600mhz 16gb.I've find this kit : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10084735/S...chytita-1600-gia-Laptop-SP008GLSTU160N02.html Is is suitable?Also is there anything else i can upgrade with low cost?

For ~$25, it is worth to upgrade that laptop & max out the memory.

Also, if you are running HDD, it is worth to get SSD for the laptop. Or if it is M2 SSD, you can upgrade for a larger one!

nVidia is on the motherboard, so that is not advisable to change. Neither is CPU, it is better to get another laptop!

 

[docnorth]

With 6gb RAM you could just search for a 4gb module (e.g. from e-shop). 8gb with equal channels should be more than enough for your rig. Old PCs usually work fine with 2 different sticks, given that all other specs are the same. 3-4 years ago I added a 4gb low height Kingston module on a 2011 prebuilt desktop (i5 2400), restart, 3 beeps I think and ready. Iirc the OEM module is from Hynix.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Also, if you are running HDD, it is worth to get SSD for the laptop. Or if it is M2 SSD, you can upgrade for a larger one!

The OP that you quoted states clearly that they're running an SSD. Did you even read it?

 

[68Olds]

https://www.e-shop.gr/ram-gskill-f3-1600c11s-8gsl-8gb-so-dimm-ddr3l-1600mhz-standard-p-PER.557213 This one?

SKRDPTSGL said:
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10084735/S...chytita-1600-gia-Laptop-SP008GLSTU160N02.html

RAM MUSHKIN 992038 8GB SO-DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHZ ESSENTIALS SERIES

Μνήμη υψηλής επίδοσης για το φορητό σας σύστημα. Η νέα σειρά της Mushkin αποτελεί μια πολ SKU:PER.574137

www.e-shop.gr

Two pieces of the least expensive of the 3 choices should work fine. They are all DDR3L (1.35v) 1600 cas11.

If the battery is dead, you might want to remove it. It can swell and cause interference with components inside the case. You should be able to find a replacement battery too.

 

[KLiKzg]

The OP that you quoted states clearly that they're running an SSD. Did you even read it?

Then SATA3 can be changed for M2...which is quicker!