Need RTX 40 series (Ada Lovelace) to work in Windows 10 1507 LTSB

[dabvflov_243]

We know that 1507 will be officially out of support next year but 1511 is the highest OS that this software can run. For some of the computers, we have to update it to 1511 just to get the RX 6000 GPUs to work properly. It may be a security risk but we could not find other solution other than installing an older GPU that supports it.

 

[bug]

We know that 1507 will be officially out of support next year but 1511 is the highest OS that this software can run. For some of the computers, we have to update it to 1511 just to get the RX 6000 GPUs to work properly. It may be a security risk but we could not find other solution other than installing an older GPU that supports it.

I mean, it's only a security risk if you hook it up with Internet so script kiddies can have a go. Foe your needs, just unplug the network and it will be safe forever. Or just keep it confined to your intranet if you need other computers to connect. But then it gets a bit tricky.

 

[dabvflov_243]

I mean, it's only a security risk if you hook it up with Internet so script kiddies can have a go. Foe your needs, just unplug the network and it will be safe forever. Or just keep it confined to your intranet if you need other computers to connect. But then it gets a bit tricky.

Getting hacked is not the issue, we have some Windows 7 and XP machines that is connected to the internet 24/7, we have not found any problems since. Some of the computers are connected internet to send data to the CNC machine and other equipment.

 

[stahlhart]

Are you kidding with that?

They have had close to a decade now to address this issue.

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

We know that 1507 will be officially out of support next year but 1511 is the highest OS that this software can run. For some of the computers, we have to update it to 1511 just to get the RX 6000 GPUs to work properly. It may be a security risk but we could not find other solution other than installing an older GPU that supports it.

So you have had 12+ months to invest/research and decide on a fully supported solution and you want to still kick the can down the road again and again?

What you should have been doing is segregating the older machines off to the current CNC hardware and stockpiling some spares for the longer term support you are inevitably going to have, while investing in newer machines and software for the newer CNC machines you are getting ahold of. You are going to very quickly run into an issue where hardware failures of you current hardware wont have replacement parts and suddenly your scrambling to try and find retrofits or playing eBay roulette for 15 year old hardware. Where as you could have "retired" a few of the current machines and stored them away for that scenario in a few years time.



Trying to get a machine to do this all in one going forward is going to be both extremely hard and problematic to support in the longer term when the other older parts inevitably fail. (Motherboards, RAM, interface cards etc)

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

My two cents...

OP entire story smells of BS. Someone can't, or won't, or never in the first place payed for software, and now no one knows how to crack something newer that will work. If the machines were working adequately on gt 210, why get RTX 4000, or why upgrade at all?

"because we plan on putting in more cnc machines in the future" Nope, not buying it. You don't buy gpus now for an upgrade that may come at some undetermined time in the future. Whoever is responsible for the IT screwed up.

This is an easy to solve problem, but you won't do it. If you already are using old, unsupported equipment, then just by old, unsupported replacement gpus that you can get old, unsupported drivers for. Can get quadro p1000's for like 100 dollars a piece that will smoke a gt 210 and have driver support back to windows 7.

1507 and 1511 work but 1607 doesn't? I don't think I believe that.

None of this makes sense, and I don't believe we are being dealt with honestly here.

 

[dabvflov_243]

We have acquired some GTX 10 series cards, and they do not work with LTSB 2015. We tried driver versions 368.81, 411.63, and 466.4,7, but it refused to load, and running the installer says, ”This Nvidia graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows.” Also, we tried manually installing them through device manager, it installs but refuses to load. Is there any way that the 10 series can be loaded on LTSB 2015? (We are using a GTX 1070 in this case) And yes, we already know that there is less than 7 months of support left.

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

We have acquired some GTX 10 series cards, and they do not work with LTSB 2015. We tried driver versions 368.81, 411.63, and 466.4,7, but it refused to load, and running the installer says, ”This Nvidia graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows.” Also, we tried manually installing them through device manager, it installs but refuses to load. Is there any way that the 10 series can be loaded on LTSB 2015? (We are using a GTX 1070 in this case) And yes, we already know that there is less than 7 months of support left.

Looking around 10 series requires a Minimum of 1511 to work according to nVidia and only 9xx series and older supports 1507

 

[Toothless]

Time to get a Titan X Maxwell and try that.

 

[lambda]

Interesting thread honestly.

 

[dabvflov_243]

requires a Minimum of 1511

This is some Nvidia nonsense, they support all windows versions of all the way back from Windows 7 to 11 (even the 32 bit variants) offically, but does not support this one build, 1507 and 1511 kernel is almost the same and I do not understand why Nvidia blacklists 1507 especially this GPU was around in 2016 and even the non-LTSB 1507 was still officially supported that time. We can run the program in 1511, but the operating system is not secure to use all the time, so it's better to use a somewhat supported version of Windows.

I think there's some code in the driver that prevents 1507 from loading the driver.


What is the most powerful GPU that supports LTSB 2015 in general? (I prefer AMD (besides the RX 6000 series due to instability), but Nvidia is fine too.)

 

[arbiter]

What is the most powerful GPU that supports LTSB 2015 in general? (I prefer AMD (besides the RX 6000 series due to instability), but Nvidia is fine too.)

didn't dig in AMD side yet but from what see in nvidia release notes probably look at a rtx 20 series. Ampere was 30 series

Support for products based on the NVIDIA Ampere architecture requires Windows 10 April 2018 Update (version 1803) or later.

edit: lookin through AMD release notes which seems to get non-existent for a period but starting around 22. series drivers starts showing (below) a lot of 21. just before this patch notes are sparse at best to find on amd's site and few that do just say windows 10. Likely need to get a 5000 series amd since you say issues with stability cause 7000 series likely has same min win 10 requirement.

Windows 10 64-bit version 1809 and later