I'll jump back into this one last time I promise..
What! We don't suffer with VAT, it's a way to pay for stuff, like healthcare, it's a choice. It's like saying i suffer from buying groceries. Not sure how that relates to threats to invade Canada.
Fair enough, but there is certainly some people who don't enjoy it. But you're right, I was ill-informed. I'm surprised you took as much offense as you did over something that which to you; is obviously me being ignorant. (the fact we still don't have good healthcare here in the states is baffling after how many decades? stopping myself inb4 I have another political rant)
I did not mean to somehow relate that to the threats towards canada. Not sure where you derived that from.
Sick as in, just like you showed, there is a real lack of grasp on almost anything and makes you do and say weird stuff.
What?
If this is a comment about me being Ill-informed than sure, fine, but lets not generalize. Generalization's doesn't help anything. Again, people have said the same things in relation to all sorts of countries. Russia had a lot of sentiments like this to thrown at it, and as much as its compelling and easy to blame the WHOLE, often when you look into the bigger picture, its never that simple.
The point I was trying to draw is that even the most rational of people can make terrible choices when fear is a big motivator. Seen many of my more moderate friends vote for Trump under false pretenses and after the first month of him in office they began to regret it. I don't bash them for that but I will tell them that they should of thought more critically; but again, sometimes that's the coinflip you toss when you're voting for X or Y. America's political system is undoubtedly, sucky. And sometimes your choice is literally left to a coinflip because both candidates could be awful. And abstaining from voting is also not a solution.
There's no winners in American politics. At least when it comes to the actual people who make up the states anyway. Not to paint us as some saints who get mistreated but there's no 'good' side to American politics IMO. Just bad and slightly less bad 99% of the time.
Already had a British pal get a laugh out of me about our politics being NEARLY as bad as English parliament (obviously he's trying to make a joke, its not that simple of a comparison), so at least I'm not super cynical about it at least..
Don't blame just Trump, if you're going to say stuff like this.
Not blaming just trump. But it should be very obvious where the head of the snake is.
I blame fear. That's the difference between my beliefs and some other peoples. I don't care for left.. right, whatever, because at there most moderate levels they both have points. It's the fear that dominates the radical sides of them that bring awfulness. And history often repeats with the continued idea of "fear leads to awful, terrible governments", which I'm sure I don't have to list out every single country which has had an awful government at one point in time because of said fear.
Corruption also plays a big part into that too. Something which isn't as common but certainly noticeable. US has a lot of that too (honestly, besides Russia and China, we are probably one of the worst examples right now.)
This is case and point right here.
My mistake; but again, lets not generalize a nuanced problem..
That's all, I promise. Hopefully that helped you understand my points a bit better (though it seems your pretty deadset in your beliefs, but I try to understand where your coming from)
There is certainly an argument our electorate needs to learn things the hard way, sadly. It's why when Trump won I started greeting his supporters with "I hope you get everything you voted for..." Because the pain coming is neccesary for the american learning process, aparently.
It's always seemingly one step forward, four steps back. Our politics are dominated by radicalness and agendas perpetuated by fear and distrust of each other and everything.. It's easy to get cynical when you look into it. Because we (the people) don't ever win really. Only for maybe one president term before next guy comes in and tears everything the last one did down, usually 80% of the time, even among people within the same parties.
It's hard for me to stomach living in this country sometimes knowing that every election year I'm looking at two people babble at each other and usually at least one of them is pretty radical, and the radical one is usually the one who wins.
Won't get into the politics, but as an update to the topic:
The White House announced the removal of "reciprocal tariffs" from a range of electronic goods.
www.dw.com
Tariff exemptions are being granted to tech, likely at the request of Apple and Nvidia
I wouldn't of minded a tariff affecting electronics if it wasn't potentially as high as it could of been.. something comparable to how VAT effects GPU prices in Europe would of hurt at first personally but been fine probably.. would of hurt the second hand market though (which is my prime hunting grounds!)