RTX 5060 8GB performance

[yfn_ratchet]

People don't buy $250 GPUs to get a super high end ultimate gaming setup either. Again, shifting goalposts. Obviously in 2025, no 8GB card is a high-end GPU. But they are still very popular GPUs for casual esports gamers. OP's claim that people "know enough" to not buy them is just silly, he lives in a bubble of tech enthusiast YouTubers who rely on clickbait and outrage to get paid.

I think we are ALL missing the actual point here:

The xx60-class card is the cheapest Nvidia card that isn't considered bottom-tier 'budget', and even then both 3050 SKUs still see sales. It is the card that is the easiest to sell, because the sentiment has stayed the same for decades at this point: you want a card that will play or do anything without hiccups, you buy green. Nvidia has been coasting off of that idea for generations at this point.

The average consumer does not buy a 4060 or 5060 because they think it is a suitable card for their purposes, they buy it because it is the minimum viable product for their general idea of 'gaming'. It is the absolute least they could pay for a card without expecting severe compromises. That is the marketing of the xx60-class card, and it is because the average consumer percieves that competitors will be more technically restricted or more frequently have issues that said competitors do not completely devour the xx60-class card in that price bracket.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I dont really understand the complaint. It is literally the best perf / $ card on the market. If you are claiming that this is still bad, it follows that everything else is even worse, so why complain about the best value card? Shoulsnt you be complaining about every other card instead?

Being happy about the card that is on the top of a pile a shit that is this generation isn't my Idea of a good time though and let's be real had nvidia just gave this card 12GB of vram it would have been a huge winner even with it's mediocre generational uplift but na they got to squeeze every $$ out of their adoring fans.....


Not that any other company is any better.... My guess is the 9600XT will be a joke as well due to pricing.

 

[Chrispy_]

Nvidia is horrible and their new 320$ card csnr even outperform 5 year old cards. Great. Then why the heck is it the fastest card in existence at that price point?

I'll answer that with someone else's quote:

Too much VRAM is useless... Until it's actually not.

12GB and 16GB VRAM is useless right now for a majority of games that need 6-8GB at 1080p sensible settings, so the 5060 is likely to excel with a much bigger power budget and much higher core count than the previous performance/$ winner (the vanilla 4060, up until production stopped and prices went way up).

At some point soon 8GB cards are just going to drop off a cliff as the minimum viable amount of VRAM for new games becomes 10GB or something. Hell, that bar has stayed on 8GB for an unusual amount of time simply because of all the backlash from 8GB GPU owners whining at developers (who are targeting consoles that can happily use 10-12.5GB VRAM, and patch in support for these 8GB GPUs weeks or months after launch as an afterthought to boost sales).

 

[JustBenching]

Being happy about the card that is on the top of a pile a shit that is this generation isn't my Idea of a good time though and let's be real had nvidia just gave this card 12GB of vram it would have been a huge winner even with it's mediocre generational uplift but na they got to squeeze every $$ out of their adoring fans.....


Not that any other company is any better.... My guess is the 9600XT will be a joke as well due to pricing.

Nobody should be happy, but nobody should be blaming the bad value of gpus to the company that makes the best value gpus (and has 90% marketshare, so no incentive to do better anyways).

 

[AusWolf]

Why are you suddenly talking about 3rd-world markets? You're shifting goalposts again. Obviously 3rd-world countries have very different GPU markets (and gaming markets). This entire discussion has been about the performance and value of the 5060 and related cards in the affluent, western market. I get that the UK doesn't meet those qualifications anymore, but surely you can just imagine what it would be like /s

I suggest looking up the definition of "shifting the goalpost". Countering your argument is not it.

No one said we were only talking about western markets, and I never said I was only talking about the UK.

 

[JustBenching]

I'll answer that with someone else's quote:

12GB and 16GB VRAM is useless right now for a majority of games that need 6-8GB at 1080p sensible settings, so the 5060 is likely to excel with a much bigger power budget and might higher core count than the previous performance/$ holder (the 4060 8GB).

At some point soon 8GB cards are just going to drop off a cliff as the minimum viable amount of VRAM for new games becomes 10GB or something. Hell, that bar has stayed on 8GB for an unusual amount of time simply because of all the backlash from 8GB GPU owners whining at developers (who are targeting consoles that can happily use 10-12.5GB VRAM, and patch in support for these 8GB GPUs weeks or months after launch as an afterthought to boost sales).

All that is irrelevant cause if you check that graph every other card at that price point also has 8gb of vram, while being vastly (and i do mean vastly) slower. If you need more vram for cheap your only realistic option is the nvidia 3060 anyways.

 

[AusWolf]

Nobody should be happy, but nobody should be blaming the bad value of gpus to the company that makes the best value gpus (and has 90% marketshare, so no incentive to do better anyways).

Where are the best value GPUs? I don't see any.

All that is irrelevant cause if you check that graph every other card at that price point also has 8gb of vram, while being vastly (and i do mean vastly) slower. If you need more vram for cheap your only realistic option is the nvidia 3060 anyways.

Yes. At the present. The post you replied to states that those cards will probably run out of puff due to VRAM limitations in the near future, just like the 3 GB 1060 did way before the 6 GB version.

Wow, they must all be getting AMD laptops with all the extra VRAM that AMD gives them, right?

Who's shifting the goalpost now? This thread isn't about laptops, or AMD.

By the way, if AMD laptops are nowhere to be found, that says something about Nvidia ones being the most popular, right?

 

[Chrispy_]

All that is irrelevant cause if you check that graph every other card at that price point also has 8gb of vram, while being vastly (and i do mean vastly) slower. If you need more vram for cheap your only realistic option is the nvidia 3060 anyways.

This is exactly the point I'm making. 8GB is enough for right now in today's benchmarks (barely).

If you treat a GPU purchase as a disposable item that can be replaced every 6-18 months, these 8GB cards are great. I have some beach-front property in high coastal erosion zones to sell you, if that's what you're interested in buying....

 

[blinnbanir]

This is exactly the point I'm making. 8GB is enough for right now in today's benchmarks (barely).

If you treat a GPU purchase as a disposable item that can be replaced every 6-18 months, these 8GB cards are great. I have some beach-front property in high coastal erosion zones to sell you, if that's what you're interested in buying....

If they were $99 that would be fine. At the price they will demand for that it is better in my opinion to get a 7700XT.

 

[Chrispy_]

If they were $99 that would be fine. At the price they will demand for that it is better in my opinion to get a 7700XT.

Yup.

$99 isn't realistic, though. If a $99 card even existed today, it would look like the awful DDR4 variant of the GT1030 did - barely more than a glorified display adapter to increase the number of connected monitors to your system.

I honestly think a fair price for a (competent) 8GB card is somewhere between $175 and $250 right now, depending on the performance. 8GB cards do have their place, not everyone is interested in the latest AAA games, and eSports or older games will run fine on cards like the 8GB RX 6600(XT)/6650XT/7600, the 2060(S)/2070(S), and the 3060Ti/3070 - which can be found used for that sort of money.

 

[dark_globe]

I agree that the market is messed up, but i cannot blame it on the company that has (by far btw) the best value cards and offers the cheapest gpus with over 8gb of vram. At some point we have to point the finger at their competition that is just doing much worse.

Nvidia is horrible and their new 320$ card csnr even outperform 5 year old cards. Great. Then why the heck is it the fastest card in existence at that price point?

neither company has "best value cards"
best value cards don´t exist at todays market .
there are only bad and less bad
second hand market became a new meta of this generation ...

also AMD has a terrible track record at marketing themselves and capitalizing on opportunities like this one ... they famble every time .
they see nvidia receiving bad press for 2 generations now , they see the generational uplifts are small ,
they see rtx 4060 and rtx 5060 are terrible ...
and they do nothing about it ...

if i´m their CEO i would be sales pitching my @ss off right now ,
painting my company as a saviour that came to rescue gamers from an evil monopolistic green company ...
i would try to aggressively gain a bigger market share and position my products at competitive and appealing prices -
i would ditch the 8gb 9060xt model entirely
(or if it is already made in volume i would market it as "e sports" 1080p video card and sell it for $200-250 , maybe even rename it to 9050xt)
and pitch it as viable upgrade path for rx 580/5600xt and vega owners)

i would position 9060xt 16gb at $300-350 and 9070/9070xt at $450/$550 and it would sell like crazy ...
but AMD is doing none of that . in fact they play along with nvidia like they don´t even care .

 

[lexluthermiester]

Here we are again with the usual suspects shitposting...

People, we all get it, you don't like the 8GB cards. Boo fricken woo. Thank you for reminding us.

 

[JustBenching]

Where are the best value GPUs? I don't see any.

The 5060, its right there in the graph. And if you need more vram, its the 3060. Wild.

Yes. At the present. The post you replied to states that those cards will probably run out of puff due to VRAM limitations in the near future, just like the 3 GB 1060 did way before the 6 GB version.

The 3gb never run out of puff. I had both versions. I in fact still have them. I dont even get the argument. Are you saying that games 2 years from now will look worse than todays games while needing more vram or what are you saying exactly?

 

[_roman_]

It seems someone posted again some hardware unboxed youtube charts.

I really dislike the misinformation hardware unboxed does again.

WHQD, which I play, does not end in the 5070 something series. It ends with the Nvidia 5090. That is clear misinformation to paint the nvidia card as better as it is. It is a worse entry card. The performance in my point of view is something which was sold 5 years ago. (Please check yourself the charts on page 1 or page 2 of this topic!)
Even vor 1080p it's misinformation. The highest card should always be in the charts. Personally I think the best professional card, when it performs better should be also included to see the clear difference in cheap cards like the 5060 and medium cards.

edit: fixed typo chart -> card

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Nobody should be happy, but nobody should be blaming the bad value of gpus to the company that makes the best value gpus (and has 90% marketshare, so no incentive to do better anyways).

Are you insinuating that becuase Nvidia has slightly less terrible products they should be praised.

Being the best trash doesn't make somthing good by default.

This is the 2nd generation in a row the 60 class has sucked b@!!$ the whole reason Nvidia can get away with releasing this trash is they have the market and mind share they really should be doing more the move the bar up than what we are getting. I can't even believe actual tech enthusiasts would try to defend this shit i feel like some of the people here are trying to get jobs in Nvidia marketing department....

Intel is a joke and amd is too focused on epyc/cpus to care but even they improved the most lacking part of their gpu architecture upscaling/RT quite a bit Nvidia just giving refreshes with 4x fake frames and still wants people to spend 750+(1000 in the us) to get an actually ok product.

 

[JustBenching]

Are you insinuating that becuase Nvidia has slightly less terrible products they should be praised.

No, im insinuating that nobody should be saying anything positive or negative about nvidia, but instead we should put all our focus on blaming everyone else that makes worse products than them.

See you are doing it as well, you are saying x60 is trash for 2 generations in a row. Okay then, why isnt the competitors x60 tier product twice as fast then? Why is it in fact evem slower? Why arent we focusing our complaints on the even worse product?

 

[_roman_]

Most of the market will probably buy it anyway in a pre-built gaming PC or OEM system.

I read something else also. Some consumers think a 730€, lol, p(l)aystation 5 pro is a good deal.

edit: I used to play on gaming notebooks. Supermarket laptop which was a rebranded MSI barebone, ASUS g70sg, (i had a second Asus k70 as a second screen), Asus g75VW (used 2-3 years old, I had it nearly 6 years) I was forced to build a desktop AM4 box. Everything is soldered these days in laptops. With my electronics background it was too high risk to buy a gaming laptop which is basically e-waste. Recent 3 of 4 refurbished laptops I bought myself had issues. 1) Dead background light of the lenovo laptop 2) the device was not repaired by the refurb company. I got another lenovo laptop which had massive battery on the internal, internal and external battery. I was forced to sell it 3) defective speakers on the refurb lenovo laptop which i returned 4) my 4th laptop now seems to be a proper one, as of now. not sure when the device will be 11 months old. Refurbished Laptops are quite trash from lenovo these days. As far as I remember.

Another family member also wanted a notebook. I pointed out that laptops are e-waste these days. A defective mainboard usually means another fresh purchase. So I personally build him a AM4 box which he still uses. I still check aliexpress on those mainboard prices for laptops. Those are quite a joke for old dated hardware to ask 300-400€ for just a plain laptop mainboard without screen, keyboard, battery, case, ...

 

[Outback Bronze]

Please keep it civil guys. I don't mind a bit of good-natured banter

The fact is 4X the generated frames isn't the same as natively GPU rendered FPS, the latency and frame timing is going to be higher than GPU rendered frames.

Sounds like SLI/Xfire all over again..

 

[LastDudeALive]

Please keep it civil guys. I don't mind a bit of good-natured banter

We all have nothing better to do than yell at each other over VRAM and fake frames, this is the only thing that gives us purpose in life.

 

[Chrispy_]

One interesting point of the 5060 is that it's a defective GB206 GPU, meaning that it shares most of the high power draw of the 5060Ti.
A reason I sometimes bought or suggested the vanilla 4060 is because it used a smaller AD107 die and as a result had phenomenal power efficiency - great for extremely tight power budgets or very cramped mITX cases with limited cooling. It was, by far, the fastest 120W GPU at the time, and could be easily undervolted to deliver almost all its performance at just 90W.

There is no GB207 (yet), so perhaps the 5060Ti is now Nvidia's lowest-tier silicon :O
Rumours of a 5050 laptop or desktop exist, but whether GB207 exists or not remains to be seen - it could easily be a low-volume part using very defective dies. Until a GB206 appears, people in the sub-75W market are definitely screwed, and those in single power connector territory should probably stick to the 4060

 

[oxrufiioxo]

See you are doing it as well, you are saying x60 is trash for 2 generations in a row. Okay then, why isnt the competitors x60 tier product twice as fast then? Why is it in fact evem slower? Why arent we focusing our complaints on the even worse product?

My expectation for Nvidia a 3 trillion company are higher than Intel who lost their way a long time ago and AMD who doesn't actually want to compete my opinion on them is even lower than nvidias but being the least shitty company out of the 3 in 2025 doesn't make Nvidia good.

 

[JustBenching]

My expectation for Nvidia a 3 trillion company are higher than Intel who lost their way a long time ago and AMD who doesn't actually want to compete my opinion on them is even lower than nvidias but being the least shitty company out of the 3 in 2025 doesn't make Nvidia good.

Ι agree they arent good, but since you just said they are the better out of the 3 wouldnt it make sense to mostly be complaining about the other 2? To me it feels like complaining about oleds not having good enough HDR even though they have the best hdr.

 

[LastDudeALive]

One interesting point of the 5060 is that it's a defective GB206 GPU, meaning that it shares most of the high power draw of the 5060Ti.

People really need to learn the difference between a defective product and an intentional choice to use some silicon for a lower SKU to maximize profits. This is basic economics.

Power draw from the unused sections of a card is negligible. Look at the 4070 Ti Super, on a "defective" AD203 chip. Slightly higher power draw, yes, because it had slightly more cores and more VRAM. Power efficiency was identical to the 4070-Ti on the full AD103 chip.

 

[Chrispy_]

Ι agree they arent good, but since you just said they are the better out of the 3 wouldnt it make sense to mostly be complaining about the other 2?

We can't complain about the other two (AMD and Intel, presumably) since they haven't even launched yet.

The $300 AMD RDNA4 card isn't out yet. the $300 Intel Battlemage card isn't out yet, I'm not sure if the rumoured B770 will even have a B750 variant the way the A770 had an A750 variant.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Ι agree they arent good, but since you just said they are the better out of the 3 wouldnt it make sense to mostly be complaining about the other 2? To me it feels like complaining about oleds not having good enough HDR even though they have the best hdr.

I mean when the 9060XT comes out sure if it's as bad as I think it'll be.

Even if I think they are full of you know what maybe in the current climate that's the best they can do. Look at the Xbox Series X it got a price increase and nobody was buying it in the first place....

Personally I separate the product from the company anyways all corporations exist to make money so i dont blame any of them does it really matter at the end of the day what I think, nope. 60 class cards will end up in the top 5 on steam charts regardless.

I still expect better from Nvidia even if pricing sucks the products under the 5090 could be better/more desirable. I get on the process they chose due to cost they cant do much better at the top but everything under it could be better.