AMD RX 9070 XT & RX 9070 non-XT thread (OC, undervolt, benchmarks, ...)

[1986nath]

sapphire nitro+9070 -100mv ram 2650mhz

 

[LittleBro]

That's amazing score for RX 9070. It's just 1-2% below RX 9070 XT average score. What is the power draw like?

 

[1986nath]

thanks you ,it draw 270 watt

 

[Noctis]

could assume two things, because Adrenaline will reset the OC profile by default if Windows crashes/reboots, so when you reboot it, if there's a problem, Adrenaline can just reset itself. Or your Windows account may have restrictions on setting/saving driver settings in the OS.

So you can test CMD > sfc /scannow to check Windows for corrupted files and after that you can use DDU (safe mode) to reinstall Radeon drivers.

Scannow is OK - no problems. Adrenalin will crash only if a certain game doesn't like thе UV (then I change settings manually).
After booting Windows the UV will be applied immediately? - I will try UV for individual games (I create the profiles for them). Thanks!

 

[AVATARAT]

Scannow is OK - no problems. Adrenalin will crash only if a certain game doesn't like thе UV (then I change settings manually).
After booting Windows the UV will be applied immediately? - I will try UV for individual games (I create the profiles for them). Thanks!

Some games can use more UV other less, so you need to test it.

 

[Krit]

Adrenalin will crash only if a certain game doesn't like thе UV (then I change settings manually).

If it's not stable than your UV setting is useless. To set different settings for every single game that's a big work and time to waste.

 

[Noctis]

f it's not stable than your UV setting is useless

An average value can be used that works everywhere. My 6800XT card worked like this almost two years. What's important to me is getting the temperature down. I achieved 78 degrees in games (memory). I also put the cooler on top of the card. It's useful too.

 

[Krit]

An average value can be used that works everywhere. My 6800XT card worked like this almost two years. What's important to me is getting the temperature down. I achieved 78 degrees in games (memory). I also put the cooler on top of the card. It's useful too.

I was using RX 7800 XT for more than a year and it was stable at -10% power limit @230 watts and not losing its default performance out of the box. RX 9070 XT is very similar story also around -9% power limit and the same performance as out of the box @288 watts.

My goal is stock performance at lower noise output and lower power consumption where efficiency is doing its thing. RX 9070 XT gpus are highly overclocked even out of the box....... Relatively small gpu basically the same as RX 7800 XT but higher TDP.

As for temps is not so important to me as long as it's not exceeding stock temps.

 

[io-waiter]

I have been messing around with my 9070 and at -80mv or so it is fairly happy, -10% TDP is 6100ish on "steel legend" and +10% is 6600, it will happily run the same bench up towards and just past 6800 but those undervolt settings are probably not game stable. I run it at -10% TDP because the game performance impact is not noticable tome. It's a Powercolor Hellhound with Samsung memory, it's suprisingly silent, almost no noise at all, not what would normaly be expected from a tiny card.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

So what are peoples gaming stable undervolts at? crashed last night on my 9070xt at -40mV in PUBG. Went through a lengthy process today in Steel nomad and that seems to be fine up to where i stopped at -80mV, im sure itll be fine over that too. Went to try out Gears of War Reloaded and it crashed. I probably lost the silicon lottery on this damn thing.

EDIT: -35 seems okay

 

[Krit]

So what are peoples gaming stable undervolts at? crashed last night on my 9070xt at -40mV in PUBG. Went through a lengthy process today in Steel nomad and that seems to be fine up to where i stopped at -80mV, im sure itll be fine over that too. Went to try out Gears of War Reloaded and it crashed. I probably lost the silicon lottery on this damn thing.

EDIT: -35 seems okay

For me -35 is stable, never tried -40 but -45 is not stable. -80mV and up usually is fake where it's not tested heavily, properly in more games.
Runing my RX 9070 XT -35 @275watts @1120rpm.

Steel nomad is terrible test for stability try The Last of Us™ Part I

 

[iSpeakVeryWell]

So what are peoples gaming stable undervolts at? crashed last night on my 9070xt at -40mV in PUBG. Went through a lengthy process today in Steel nomad and that seems to be fine up to where i stopped at -80mV, im sure itll be fine over that too. Went to try out Gears of War Reloaded and it crashed. I probably lost the silicon lottery on this damn thing.

EDIT: -35 seems okay

Steel Nomad is not a good stress test for undervolting, I can do -105mV without crashing.

So far, the game I had most trouble with is Lies of P. It crash regularly at -35mV. It's stable at -30mV.

 

[Noctis]

Guys, I want to ask about the temperature of VRAM - on older drivers it was about 80-86 degrees and now with undervolt I see something about 75-78 degrees (25.6.1). How should this be understood? Do they take indications from other sensors? My UV is -40mV / -10-15pl with settings of the coolers.
I have Aorus Elite 9070XT

 

[Krit]

Guys, I want to ask about the temperature of VRAM - on older drivers it was about 80-86 degrees and now with undervolt I see something about 75-78 degrees (25.6.1). How should this be understood? Do they take indications from other sensors? My UV is -40mV / -10-15pl with settings of the coolers.
I have Aorus Elite 9070XT

Driver alone can not change vram temps you need to compare apples to apples or stock vs stock or uv vs uv.

 

[Noctis]

Driver alone can not change vram temps you need to compare apples to apples or stock vs stock or uv vs uv.

Yes, I was compared with UV and without. The temperature has dropped. I'm trying to understand the reasons.

 

[iSpeakVeryWell]

Guys, I want to ask about the temperature of VRAM - on older drivers it was about 80-86 degrees and now with undervolt I see something about 75-78 degrees (25.6.1). How should this be understood? Do they take indications from other sensors? My UV is -40mV / -10-15pl with settings of the coolers.
I have Aorus Elite 9070XT

You got it backward, you got lower VRAM temps because you set -10/-15 PL, not because you undervolted.

UV will give you more headroom for higher frequency within the power budget you set.

Power usage is what will affect components temperatures.

For example:

You run furmark with +10 PL, -0mV, 100% fan curve, 2800MHz VRAM, fast timing and wait for steady state. You go from -0mV to -100mV, your clock may go from 2850MHz to 3050MHz, but your temps won't change because you're still at lets say 374W.

Then you go from +10 PL to -30 PL, your clock will go from 3050MHz to 2650MHz, your temps will dramatically go down because you went from 374W to 238W.

You then go back from -100mV to 0mV and notice that your clock went from 2650MHz to 2450MHz but your temps stayed the same because you're still at 238W.

 

[sepheronx]

I'm torn. There is xfx 9070xt for 880 CAD. I want it, but my 3080 still works fine.

My love for hardware is taking over my self control and not wanting to spend money.

 

[Krit]

I'm torn. There is xfx 9070xt for 880 CAD. I want it, but my 3080 still works fine.

My love for hardware is taking over my self control and not wanting to spend money.

That's a steal or costs less than a RX 9070

 

[Noctis]

You run furmark with +10 PL, -0mV, 100% fan curve, 2800MHz VRAM, fast timing and wait for steady state. You go from -0mV to -100mV, your clock may go from 2850MHz to 3050MHz, but your temps won't change because you're still at lets say 374W.

Then you go from +10 PL to -30 PL, your clock will go from 3050MHz to 2650MHz, your temps will dramatically go down because you went from 374W to 238W.

You then go back from -100mV to 0mV and notice that your clock went from 2650MHz to 2450MHz but your temps stayed the same because you're still at 238W.

Yes, but unfortunately, not all games are suitable for only one undervolt setting. Sometimes I have to choose individually.

 

[iSpeakVeryWell]

Yes, but unfortunately, not all games are suitable for only one undervolt setting. Sometimes I have to choose individually.

It wasn't the point of my post, it was a procedure to help better understand the impacts of undervolting versus adjusting the power limit. If you follow the procedure while looking at GPU-Z sensors, you will be able to see that undervolting raise the clock while lowering the power limit lower temperatures and also lower the clock.

Off course -100mV is not a good one size fit all value, most games will crash at even -60mV. I run -30mV daily because I'm not interested in finding the optimal value for every single game I play.

 

[Noctis]

It wasn't the point of my post, it was a procedure to help better understand the impacts of undervolting versus adjusting the power limit. If you follow the procedure while looking at GPU-Z sensors, you will be able to see that undervolting raise the clock while lowering the power limit lower temperatures and also lower the clock.

Off course -100mV is not a good one size fit all value, most games will crash at even -60mV. I run -30mV daily because I'm not interested in finding the optimal value for every single game I play.

-40mV most games accept it without any problems, power limit -15 (I was tryed) - no, then I haven't tried to move on. 270-280W with UV - is a good result!
By the way, what about thermogel? - I've heard that it can leak. How should I check?

 

[kane nas]

I bought the Red Devil (9070xt) and it's a little "monster",I have 2 ways to manage the card,in games i just set UV from -120 to -135mv and increase the frequency on the memory to 2.848GHz(Samsung chip supposedly has slightly higher latency but overclocks higher),I don't change ANYTHING else,this gives me +10% performance compared to stock performance.
In synthetics I follow a different strategy, from personal experience I can tell you that OC has not "died", it's just that at the beginning the drivers were not stable and did not give good results, also the OC profiles do not seem to work properly,at least for the time being,so the solution is to make the settings manually.
The card so far in 3dmark,Superposition and others works like this: +200MHz at oc,uv -120mv,+10% Power Tuning and the memory frequency at 2,864.previously the oc did not work even at +5 the card would freeze,but with the latest driver everything works much better,It is unlikely that users on 9070xt will see +400, but I believe that this number is possible for non-xts.

 

[io-waiter]

I bought the Red Devil (9070xt) and it's a little "monster",I have 2 ways to manage the card,in games i just set UV from -120 to -135mv and increase the frequency on the memory to 2.848GHz(Samsung chip supposedly has slightly higher latency but overclocks higher),I don't change ANYTHING else,this gives me +10% performance compared to stock performance.

If that UV is stable it is a monster, or the driver has changed behaviour, what happens to performance if you relax the UV a bit?
Also for the settings not being applied, mine tend to revert on sleep, it is a truly annoying thing that the Adrenaline profile just loses the settings regularly.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I bought the Red Devil (9070xt) and it's a little "monster",I have 2 ways to manage the card,in games i just set UV from -120 to -135mv and increase the frequency on the memory to 2.848GHz(Samsung chip supposedly has slightly higher latency but overclocks higher),I don't change ANYTHING else,this gives me +10% performance compared to stock performance.
In synthetics I follow a different strategy, from personal experience I can tell you that OC has not "died", it's just that at the beginning the drivers were not stable and did not give good results, also the OC profiles do not seem to work properly,at least for the time being,so the solution is to make the settings manually.
The card so far in 3dmark,Superposition and others works like this: +200MHz at oc,uv -120mv,+10% Power Tuning and the memory frequency at 2,864.previously the oc did not work even at +5 the card would freeze,but with the latest driver everything works much better,It is unlikely that users on 9070xt will see +400, but I believe that this number is possible for non-xts.

Now try it in games....

 

[io-waiter]

My 9070 can benchmark steel nomad at -125mv consistently, but stable game clock at -10%TDP is -60-70(or less) by the looks of it, might be lower once I’ve tested more games. Will try it at increased TDP once done, but I’ve yet to see an game changing increase in performance from OC on it.