6700 XT vs. RTX 3070 for 1080p resolution - Seeking urgent help, details inside.

[dvxtawa5lrwb]

6700 XT - $215
RTX 3070 - $250

Both are second hand.

It will be used on 1080p resolution.
I'm not planning to upgrade my resolution in the next years.

I don't care about ray tracing. It feels unnecessary.

I'm not planning to use DLSS/FSR.
I tried FSR with my GTX 1060 while ago, and noticing it's particles really disturbed me.
I know DLSS looks and perform better, also FSR itself improved meanwhile, but if the particles are still noticeable, then it's still not usable for me.

I'm actively using AI and sometimes it's necessary, but I don't mind things being a little slower.
I believe, without any research or evidence, that 6700 XT is going to be faster than my current GTX 1060 on AI stuff anyway.

Power consumption is really important for me, since electricity is expensive in here.
But I watched some videos about undervolting and overclocking, and I believe final rates for both cards are going to be pretty similar.

No, I can't find better deals or check other GPUs, because:
1- My budget is limited.
2- Options are limited.
3- The overall market is expensive for popular cards.
4- Even finding these pieces for these prices are so lucky. Especially for the 6700 XT.

Please use the poll, but also share your thoughts as a comment because I am really struggling trying to decide.
I feel like I am deciding between 12 GB VRAM and DLSS, nothing else. Oh, also some driver stability and that's it.

 

[Macro Device]

Drivers are equally fine for both parties. FSR is still hot bollocks even at 2160p, let alone 1080p. You'll be giga annoyed in most games. DLSS, however, is mostly legit with the transformer model. Not always but more often than not it's okay to enable at 1080p.

This means you're gonna get:
• More raw performance per se. 3070 is a faster card.
• DLSS which can sometimes be used to get even more ahead when FSR is way too lame to enable.
• CUDA support. No idea if you need it but it's nice anyway.

Now ask yourself if you want to deal the main problem of this card. The 8 GB VRAM buffer. Without RT, you still can play almost everything at medium or high presets. DLSS will help with that a little. But it's not ideal. This is a video on how 8 GB really sucks:

RTX 2080 Ti would be a clear winner here but I'm guessing it's too expensive for you.

So if you are okay with lowering VRAM intensive settings go for a 3070. It'll get you a lot more FPS.
If not... either 6700 XT or get more money and buy a 2080 Ti.

 

[_roman_]

I vote for the 6700XT.

I miss the choice None of both.

I think your price class demands an intel graphic card

 

[dvxtawa5lrwb]

RTX 2080 Ti would be a clear winner here but I'm guessing it's too expensive for you.

$325 for EVGA's 3 fans.

 

[blinnbanir]

6700XT

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Both have major downsides in 2025

The 6700XT has terrible upscaling at 1080p and is not compatible with FSR4 poor RT performance which more and more games are shipping with by default but has 12GB which I feel is almost mandatory even at 1080p

The 3070 is better in every way besides the downside of having 8GB

Honestly I don't like either as I doubt either will have much longevity games are now requiring RT by default so the gap between these cards has only grown over time that being said the 3070 Achilles heel is the 8GB it's very capable with Transformer DLSS otherwise.

 

[dvxtawa5lrwb]

Both have major downsides in 2025

The 6700XT has terrible upscaling at 1080p and is not compatible with FSR4 poor RT performance which more and more games are shipping with by default but has 12GB which I feel is almost mandatory even at 1080p

The 3070 is better in every way besides the downside of having 8GB

Honestly I don't like either as I doubt either will have much longevity games are now requiring RT by default so the gap between these cards has only grown over time that being said the 3070 Achilles heel is the 8GB it's very capable with Transformer DLSS otherwise.

I am not chasing every new game. I don't have any problem lowering some of the graphics, mostly starting with shadows and keep going with the most unnoticeable ones.

Could you open your "RT is required by default" thought more, please? Never experienced it, but watched some videos. And I can tell, in my opinion, it is not necessary at all. It is more like good to have, but I wouldn't be looking for it since I would focus some other details going around.

I will be undervolting and also overclocking the 6700 XT. I believe it will make the raw performance, temps and noise levels even better for AMD. Because 3070 is not consuming way less than AMD. If it was consuming as low as a 4060, I would worry about it since electricity is a bit expensive here. But it feels like it can be handled.

If you were me, which one would you choose and not feel bad afterwards? I wish I could get 9060 XT at MSRP price, but I know it will be around $470-500 at best. If I wait more, that $215 6700 XT deal will be lost. If I don't wait, there is a chance that 9060 XT will be cheaper than expected and I will feel guilty for buying 6700 XT. It literally a coinflip situation for me recently.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Could you open your "RT is required by default" thought more, please? Never experienced it, but watched some videos. And I can tell, in my opinion, it is not necessary at all. It is more like good to have, but I wouldn't be looking for it since I would focus some other details going around.

Id tech 8 requires an RT capable GPU so both the new Doom and Indiana Jones other games require software RT like Lumen or whatever Ubisoft is using both perform better on Nvidia hardware.


Hardware RT Required 3070 is 38% faster


Software Lumen Required which is a form of RT 3070 is 30% faster


Software RT required the 3070 is 26% faster


Some of this is just better optimization on Nvidia cards they do have 80-90% market share after all as well.


So that is the dilemma with these cards they both have downsides one has 50% more vram the other one is much more capable in most modern games.

Sure this can vary game to game but most game engines are switching to one of these 3 options again the 3070 is overall superior and by a decent margin in a lot of modern games the problem is the 8GB could be a problem but even if you turn down settings or use DLSS transformer vs FSR2/3 it's still superior and I've never liked it if you were here asking me a couple years ago I would lean heavily towards the 6700XT because at that time engines weren't starting to become reliant of some sort of RT feature.

Still my vote would be neither if that was an option unless my budget was so restrictive I couldn't afford anything better and or couldn't wait till something better was in my price range.

I know first hand how a 6700XT performs I owned one for over 6 months in an AMD test system.

I scored 12 439 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 5 7600, AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

RTX 3070 - $250

This. Even though the 6700XT has more VRAM, the 3070 does better in both Raster and Raytracing.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition Review - Disruptive Price-Performance

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 is faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, for $500. The new FE cooler is greatly improved, runs very quietly, and even has fan stop. In our RTX 3070 Founders Edition review, we'll also take a look at RTX performance, energy efficiency, frametimes, and overclocking.

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition Review - Disruptive Price-Performance

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 is faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, for $500. The new FE cooler is greatly improved, runs very quietly, and even has fan stop. In our RTX 3070 Founders Edition review, we'll also take a look at RTX performance, energy efficiency, frametimes, and overclocking.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Review

The AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT introduces the new Navi 22 GPU, which is optimized to take the fight to NVIDIA in the $500 segment. The RX 6700 XT in our review beats the RTX 3060 Ti with ease and achieves performance that rivals the more expensive RTX 3070, with lower fan noise.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Review

The AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT introduces the new Navi 22 GPU, which is optimized to take the fight to NVIDIA in the $500 segment. The RX 6700 XT in our review beats the RTX 3060 Ti with ease and achieves performance that rivals the more expensive RTX 3070, with lower fan noise.

www.techpowerup.com

The numbers don't lie, the 3070 is the better card.

 

[dvxtawa5lrwb]

Thanks for all the data. I still have concerns about buying a card with 8GB of VRAM, but I can't deny the fact that Nvidia cards comes with it's own benefits. It's not guaranteed that I will ever play any RT-necessary games soon; on the other hand, it is also not guaranteed that all the games I am going to play will make my GPU use it's VRAM to full and give me problems.

If you encourage me with any of these cards below, I will just go with it. Please make a decision on my behalf and I will stick to it.

RTX 3070 - $250
RTX 3070 Ti - $280 to $310
RTX 3080 - $360
RTX 4060 - $265 to $275
RTX 4060 Ti - $330 to $360
RX 6700 XT - $215 (I still love it's price and VRAM advantage. The only card that I wouldn't hesitate paying for it is because how low it's price is compared to others. Have a high chance this card will get sold soon. So, if you are going to choose this card for me, please make sure you include an alternative.)

Before deciding, here are more details about my case:

I am not leaving 1080p resolution any time soon, possibly for years.
Electricity is expensive in here, so power consumption should be considered.
I can always lower graphics for more FPS. Spending less money for more FPS is the way for me. I prioritize price/performance ratio being good. That was the reason I wanted to stick to 6700 XT for $215 because I believe that's like a steal in this market. Correct me if I'm still wrong.
I am not planning to upgrade any of my other components, and will strictly stick to them:
- Ryzen 7 5700X CPU
- 32GB 3200 mHz RAM
- MSI B550-A Pro motherboard

@lexluthermiester @oxrufiioxo @Macro Device @_roman_

 

[JustBenching]

Since you are playing at 1080p ---> you don't needs DLSS ---> get the 6700xt and save some $. Or better yet save some extra and pray to god you can find a 9060xt at MSRP.

 

[nguyen]

1080p DLAA allows you to achieve much higher visual fidelity on the 3070.
For example in the upcoming Stellar Blade

12GB on the 6700XT is pointless since you will always be able to get better visuals with 1080p DLAA on the 3070 with reduced texture quality settings.

On the power efficiency side, I undervolted my nephew's rtx3070 to use around 120W (stock 220W) and lose like 5% performance. 6700XT is not going to be able to undervolt that much.

 

[io-waiter]

At 1080P the 3070 will be the better card, and it will have more support for "modern" features, RT, and upscalers.
The downside is the 8GB VRAM, but most games that need 8GB are for other reasons likely not going to be happy with the 6700XT either.
Also not sure 8GB matters at 1080P...

Neither is a bad card though and price and specific model of the card would weigh in heavily if it was my choice to make.

 

[W3RN3R]

I would go with the more vram on the 6700 xt, the extra performance on the 3070 will be useless when hitting the vram buffer. i'm using my 6700 xt on a high refresh 1080p monitor. let's just say I'm happy i chose it over the 3060ti.

 

[AVATARAT]

1080p DLAA allows you to achieve much higher visual fidelity on the 3070.
For example in the upcoming Stellar Blade

I've only seen these "Fast TAA" defects when using DLSS/FSR.
So here we have a bad TAA, or a very bad implementation of Fast TAA, or just a broken Nvidia driver, or a DLSS that broke them. Probably the last, because this is an "upscale" defect.

 

[nguyen]

I've only seen these "Fast TAA" defects when using DLSS/FSR.
So here we have a bad TAA, or a very bad implementation of Fast TAA, or just a broken Nvidia driver, or a DLSS that broke them. Probably the last, because this is an "upscale" defect.

And very very broken AMD drivers too, given that the game is built on UE4.
Still it's a new game that lots of people will play, i guess some people won't because it make their prefered hardware vendor look bad

 

[vacsati]

Thanks for all the data. I still have concerns about buying a card with 8GB of VRAM, but I can't deny the fact that Nvidia cards comes with it's own benefits. It's not guaranteed that I will ever play any RT-necessary games soon; on the other hand, it is also not guaranteed that all the games I am going to play will make my GPU use it's VRAM to full and give me problems.

If you encourage me with any of these cards below, I will just go with it. Please make a decision on my behalf and I will stick to it.

RTX 3070 - $250
RTX 3070 Ti - $280 to $310
RTX 3080 - $360
RTX 4060 - $265 to $275
RTX 4060 Ti - $330 to $360
RX 6700 XT - $215 (I still love it's price and VRAM advantage. The only card that I wouldn't hesitate paying for it is because how low it's price is compared to others. Have a high chance this card will get sold soon. So, if you are going to choose this card for me, please make sure you include an alternative.)

Before deciding, here are more details about my case:

I am not leaving 1080p resolution any time soon, possibly for years.
Electricity is expensive in here, so power consumption should be considered.
I can always lower graphics for more FPS. Spending less money for more FPS is the way for me. I prioritize price/performance ratio being good. That was the reason I wanted to stick to 6700 XT for $215 because I believe that's like a steal in this market. Correct me if I'm still wrong.
I am not planning to upgrade any of my other components, and will strictly stick to them:
- Ryzen 7 5700X CPU
- 32GB 3200 mHz RAM
- MSI B550-A Pro motherboard

@lexluthermiester @oxrufiioxo @Macro Device @_roman_

If rtx 3080 is an option, then buy it. That card is literally the best buy nowadays, faster than 4070 but much cheaper. 10 gb vram is pretty much enough for everything at 1080p, even at 1440 p with high settings.

3070 not bad for that price, but the 8gb vram will be bottleneck with some new games. Ofc still good with 1080p with most titles.
6700xt has 12gb vram, thats good, but the gpu is weak, so i wouldnt buy it. Basically doesnt matter the extra vram, because at higher settings the gpu will be the bottleneck, not the vram.

All in all 3080 is the best buy, just as i mentioned earlier.

 

[_roman_]

8gb is still recommended, although 3070 owners sold that card because of the 8gib vram 2 or 3 years ago, at least

I would not pay more than 50€ max for 3070. And only when I knew i would only play games older as released in 2012.

Hogwards legacy is a very old game which will very likely in my point of view struggle.

6700xt is also not a good deal. used 6600XT or cheaper radeon 6600

 

[Todestrieb]

Assume USD$250 is still the budget...I know I will definitely run into VRAM limit so 6700XT would be my pick, but...

If you're like me, you know / are extremely worried you will be hit by 8GB VRAM limit then 6700XT will get away with more things just because VRAM. Erm, or maybe 3060 12GB if significantly cheaper, but that looks very unlikely.
If you're okay with turning down settings to below high to get away from VRAM limit then 3070 is much better.
The minimum requirements of new games is not very likely to go over 8GB VRAM for a while, so assume one is fine with lower settings 8GB VRAM can still survive.

For the very brief time I was with my 3070 while VRAM limited, DLSS didn't save it, but maybe time has changed.

If you are fine with spending a bit more 3080 will offer a hella lot more performance while not worrying about VRAM. Anything in between doesn't worth a look in my opinion.

 

[dvxtawa5lrwb]

Assume USD$250 is still the budget...I know I will definitely run into VRAM limit so 6700XT would be my pick, but...

If you're like me, you know / are extremely worried you will be hit by 8GB VRAM limit then 6700XT will get away with more things just because VRAM. Erm, or maybe 3060 12GB if significantly cheaper, but that looks very unlikely.
If you're okay with turning down settings to below high to get away from VRAM limit then 3070 is much better.
The minimum requirements of new games is not very likely to go over 8GB VRAM for a while, so assume one is fine with lower settings 8GB VRAM can still survive.

For the very brief time I was with my 3070 while VRAM limited, DLSS didn't save it, but maybe time has changed.

If you are fine with spending a bit more 3080 will offer a hella lot more performance while not worrying about VRAM. Anything in between doesn't worth a look in my opinion.

RTX 3070 - $250
RTX 3080 - $360
RX 6700 XT - $215

Here is the recent pricing. What would be you go-to, minding the price/performance ratio?

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

If you want to also test Linux, the AMD gpu will definitely work better, same for AI tools under Linux.

I still dont get the RT hype, so I dont care about it.

 

[W3RN3R]

"And very very broken AMD drivers too, given that the game is built on UE4"

Nahh, Radeon drivers are great, stop spreading misinformation, you don't even own a Radeon card. But Nvidia on the other hand... You've seen the headlines.

 

[nguyen]

Nahh, Radeon drivers are great, stop spreading misinformation, you don't even own a Radeon card. But Nvidia on the other hand... You've seen the headlines.

Wait so you are seeing report online regarding Nvidia without having an Nvidia GPU
So I can use online sources regarding Radeon, when I don't have Radeon, right? right?

Looks pretty poor 1% low FPS there for the 9070XT, UE4 has been the weakest point of Radeon for the past decade. Though this is just the beta, the final game is coming out in a few days

 

[Hecate91]

Wait so you are seeing report online regarding Nvidia without having an Nvidia GPU

Tons of news from various tech channels have reported on drivers causing black screens and crashing.

Looks pretty poor 1% low FPS there for the 9070XT, UE4 has been the weakest point of Radeon for the past decade

That is some obvious cherrypicking to support your favorite brand and comparing a 4090 vs. a 9070XT, not a very fair comparison to have a 4K high end GPU vs. mid range 1440P GPU.

On topic, I'd go for the 6700XT, the 3070 is faster until it runs out of VRAM, but the 3070 will run out of vram in newer titles. If you have the extra budget get a 3080 or 6800XT.

 

[W3RN3R]

Wait so you are seeing report online regarding Nvidia without having an Nvidia GPU
So I can use online sources regarding Radeon, when I don't have Radeon, right? right?
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Looks pretty poor 1% low FPS there for the 9070XT, UE4 has been the weakest point of Radeon for the past decade. Though this is just the beta, the final game is coming out in a few days

I don't have any issues with ue4 based titles. No need to own an Nvidia gpu, the facts speak for themselves, or are you accusing HUB, gamers nexus and all the big outlets for false information, grow up man.