Google Chrome Claims 1% Market-Share in Just 9 Hours

[mdm-adph]

After installing IE7, the first time that you run it, it goes to a page that lets you configure your settings which include setting your default search engine from a list of common ones or by adding whatever you like. I hardly call that forcing it upon you.

Aye, but Chrome's got that beat -- it's got a nag box that won't go away until you choose either Google or another search engine. The IE7 first time start page is completely ignored by most users (including me! ).

 

[mdm-adph]

See above response, post that is, how is Microsoft related to anything? Where have I stated Microsoft is any better?

Whoa whoa whoa -- slow down there. No need to bring out the anti-anti-Microsoft defense team.

Nobody's picking on our beloved Microsoft -- where did I say that they were any worse? I just saw a funny comparison, and decided to make it.

 

[Kreij]

Aye, but Chrome's got that beat -- it's got a nag box that won't go away until you choose either Google or another search engine. The IE7 first time start page is completely ignored by most users (including me! ).

I see. So to you ignoring a configuration page = forcing. Thanks for the laugh. It's always nice to have a good chuckle early in the day.

I rest my case

 

[Deleted member 3]

Whoa whoa whoa -- slow down there. No need to bring out the anti-anti-Microsoft defense team.

Nobody's picking on our beloved Microsoft -- where did I say that they were any worse? I just saw a funny comparison, and decided to make it.

Why anti-anti-Microsoft? I never said Microsoft was all good, just stating that it's completely unrelated to Google being just as bad.

 

[mdm-adph]

I see. So to you ignoring a configuration page = forcing. Thanks for the laugh. It's always nice to have a good chuckle early in the day.

I rest my case

Oh, you're right -- I'm totally different from the vast majority of computer users that obviously take all their time to go through preferences screens and configure everything manually, like I'm sure all the users of IE7 did. Buddy, thanks for giving me a laugh.

 

[mdm-adph]

Why anti-anti-Microsoft? I never said Microsoft was all good, just stating that it's completely unrelated to Google being just as bad.

You really think Microsoft is totally unrelated to Google at this point? These, the two companies that are currently fighting tooth and nail for control of the internet?

There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about one and involving the other, at this point. It's not like we're talking about two vastly different fields of industry here.

 

[kylew]

Of course I haven't noticed, I haven't used Chrome. I commented on Google, not on Chrome.



I gave up because my laptop has a 16MB videocard which makes the thing terribly slow. Not because I didn't understand it. I might look at it at home.
Is it useful for interior design as well? ie placing furniture and the likes?

I didn't think you didn't understand it, it was a response to you saying 'how hard could it be to draw'

It is very useful for interior design, I've used it to make a model of my house so I can play around with the interior design. Plus, you've got something called 3D Warehouse, where people upload their own models of things to save you making everything from scratch.

Some things I can't be bothered making, like a monitor for example, so I got the sketchup model of my 2408s from the 3D Warehouse.

I've attached an example of one of the rooms from my house model.

 

[jbunch07]

wish i was that good at sketchup ^

 

[kylew]

Oh, you're right -- I'm totally different from the vast majority of computer users that obviously take all their time to go through preferences screens and configure everything manually, like I'm sure all the users of IE7 did. Buddy, thanks for giving me a laugh.

What users of IE7? I didn't know anyone used it.

 

[mdm-adph]

What users of IE7? I didn't know anyone used it.

Oh, poo -- coincidentally enough, I wish more people used it, at least among Windows users. I'm tired of having to support IE6.

 

[Deleted member 3]

You really think Microsoft is totally unrelated to Google at this point? These, the two companies that are currently fighting tooth and nail for control of the internet?

There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about one and involving the other, at this point. It's not like we're talking about two vastly different fields of industry here.

Of course it is wrong, I state something about Google. People turn it into "but Microsoft does it too". How is that relevant? Does it in any way change the point I made? Does it add anything? No and no, hence it's an pointless response.
If I am wrong here, please explain how Microsoft doing similar things affect the issue.

So to answer your first question, yes, I really think so.



Quite the contradiction here:

when you search in Chrome for the first time, it asks you if you want to use Google as your search engine or if you'd like to use another. That's a damn sight better than IE7 did, which forced MSN upon you by default. :shadedshu

Oh, you're right -- I'm totally different from the vast majority of computer users that obviously take all their time to go through preferences screens and configure everything manually, like I'm sure all the users of IE7 did. Buddy, thanks for giving me a laugh.

So when IE7 asks you to change the settings to your likings it's bad. When Google does so it's a blessing.

 

[Deleted member 3]

I didn't think you didn't understand it, it was a response to you saying 'how hard could it be to draw'

It is very useful for interior design, I've used it to make a model of my house so I can play around with the interior design. Plus, you've got something called 3D Warehouse, where people upload their own models of things to save you making everything from scratch.

Some things I can't be bothered making, like a monitor for example, so I got the sketchup model of my 2408s from the 3D Warehouse.

I've attached an example of one of the rooms from my house model.

For the videocard I meant, it looking relatively simple and all.

Looks like I can make some decent things in it, I'll try it at home.

 

[kylew]

Of course it is wrong, I state something about Google. People turn it into "but Microsoft does it too". How is that relevant? Does it in any way change the point I made? Does it add anything? No and no, hence it's an pointless response.
If I am wrong here, please explain how Microsoft doing similar things affect the issue.

So to answer your first question, yes, I really think so.



Quite the contradiction here:


So when IE7 asks you to change the settings to your likings it's bad. When Google does so it's a blessing.

Until my choice is removed, it doesn't bother me when software suggests I use *insert here*. Though I understand your point on running a script to install apps unattended.

Where I do think it's bad though is for the people who are a bit wary or not very clued up when it comes to computers who are sometimes cleverly tricked into installing some other software. Messenger Plus Live add-on for MSN messenger springs to mind.

It has an odd way of wording its question of installing third party software, you have to check the box to say you don't want it, and the box says 'I refuse to give my support to the sponsors' or something to that effect.

Most people will just steam on ahead because checkboxes most of the time indicated a decision to install something instead of a confirmation that you don't want it installed.

Oh well

 

[Kreij]

@MDM LOL, I know that many users don't take the time to configure their apps. It's a shame really, as that is how you get them to be useful.

Back on topic, I really didn't find Chrome to be of much use. My home page is an html page that I wrote that contains links to all of the sites I visit frequently. I find it to be much easier than the new "recently visited" page that Chrome uses. I know that I can just set my home page the same way in Chrome, but then it does not really do any more for me than IE.

That and Chrome was just thrashing the hard drive even when it was just idling. Not sure what it was doing.

 

[johnnyfiive]

Many companies grew in similar ways several years ago, few survived. And I disagree with the Google ftw statement. Forcing their search bar upon you, hiding behind beta statuses, primarily being concerned with advertising (even basing ads on the content of your mail). They're just a glorified ad company. I like their search engine and Google earth, apart from that I don't care about their stuff and even less about the company itself.

Don't forget the main thing, everything Google offers is FREE. How do you think they can give you such awesome applications and features if they don't make money? Not calling you out in particular, but people need to stop bitching about free software. Its FREE. How the hell does anyone have the right to complain or bitch about how a free-software giving company makes money? Every mogul has a little bit of Microsoft in them. Its just the way it works.

 

[kylew]

For the videocard I meant, it looking relatively simple and all.

Looks like I can make some decent things in it, I'll try it at home.

Ahh, I see what you meant. Yeah it's very good for all sorts of model making. It's widely used by professionals because it's just like 2D drawing packages with an extra axis to draw on.

While I can use a lot of other CAD software, I prefer Sketchup over them all when it comes to modeling in 3D as I enjoy using it a lot more than others. They're just not as intuitive.

3DSMax for example is a pain the ass to do modeling work in in comparison to sketchup, but as I said earlier, I use it 3DSMax mostly for texturing/applying materials/lighting to produce nicely rendered images.

 

[kylew]

How the hell does anyone have the right to complain or bitch about how a free-software giving company makes money?

Google are secretly selling black-market body parts and slaves in large quantities...


Though I do agree with you, all their software is free. I personally don't mind ads or being asked to install the google toolbar, as long as I've always got the option/choice to opt out of installing the addition 'wares.

 

[mdm-adph]

Of course it is wrong, I state something about Google. People turn it into "but Microsoft does it too". How is that relevant? Does it in any way change the point I made? Does it add anything? No and no, hence it's an pointless response.
If I am wrong here, please explain how Microsoft doing similar things affect the issue.

So to answer your first question, yes, I really think so.

You're in IT, you should know -- like it or not, Microsoft is the "industry standard." It's products (and thusly, its practices) are sanctioned by companies and governments all across the world. Comparing what another company does to Microsoft, or using Microsoft's own practices while defending another company should be par for the course. Using Microsoft in this way isn't insulting it -- but it is applicable to say that one company's practices shouldn't be criticized because "Microsoft does it too."

I'm surprised you think differently. Do you not think that Microsoft is an industry standard and thus should be the recipient of this kind of argument?

So when IE7 asks you to change the settings to your likings it's bad. When Google does so it's a blessing.

Never said IE7 asking you was bad -- but what Google does is better, and makes what IE7 does look like forcing you. Depending upon the average computer user to manually change something is almost ridiculous.

 

[Steevo]

Cough...... what happened?

 

[mdm-adph]

@MDM LOL, I know that many users don't take the time to configure their apps. It's a shame really, as that is how you get them to be useful.

Back on topic, I really didn't find Chrome to be of much use. My home page is an html page that I wrote that contains links to all of the sites I visit frequently. I find it to be much easier than the new "recently visited" page that Chrome uses. I know that I can just set my home page the same way in Chrome, but then it does not really do any more for me than IE.

That and Chrome was just thrashing the hard drive even when it was just idling. Not sure what it was doing.

Hey, I know how you feel -- sadly enough though, most of the technology software world seems to be involved with grabbing up what large chunk of "uninformed" computer users it can. It's why an application's default settings are very important and are often the matter of contention.

Just for the record, I am NOT some sort of Google evangelist -- I personally find some of their data mining practices quite reprehensible, for instance. They seem to be a company that was (and still is) quite a cool company, but one that is quickly turning into just another industry player like Microsoft.

 

[tvdang7]

How exactly do they get these market share statistics? just wondering
browser
OS
Video cards
cpu's

 

[PP Mguire]

Of course it is wrong, I state something about Google. People turn it into "but Microsoft does it too". How is that relevant? Does it in any way change the point I made? Does it add anything? No and no, hence it's an pointless response.
If I am wrong here, please explain how Microsoft doing similar things affect the issue.

Actualy what i got out of this, is you bashing Google for including a "check box" to add their toolbar ect ect. The point being made here is YOUR point is irrelavent for them forcing their stuff on you when some sort of online deal is usualy always forced on you when you install something. Microsoft does it, Yahoo does it, Gamespy does it, Ask Jeeves does it, you get my point. So you saying you hate Google for doing this is stupid when in fact almost every other online related company does it as well.

And who said something about adds in the Gmail? I dont see any?

 

[Deleted member 3]

Actualy what i got out of this, is you bashing Google for including a "check box" to add their toolbar ect ect. The point being made here is YOUR point is irrelavent for them forcing their stuff on you when some sort of online deal is usualy always forced on you when you install something. Microsoft does it, Yahoo does it, Gamespy does it, Ask Jeeves does it, you get my point. So you saying you hate Google for doing this is stupid when in fact almost every other online related company does it as well.

And who said something about adds in the Gmail? I dont see any?

I disagreed with the "google ftw" statement, the argument is the way the company spreads their software and acts like they aren't like other companies. If I was bashing them I would only state negative things, I would certainly not be saying I do like certain products. Apart from that I wouldn't be having an argument. If the response is that other companies do it to you're implying I don't dislike it when those companies do it, which is false.
And it's not just the checkbox, I stated more than that.

 

[1c3d0g]

...
I like their search engine and Google earth, apart from that I don't care about their stuff and even less about the company itself.

Thank G-d most people don't think like this. :shadedshu

 

[Deleted member 3]

Thank G-d most people don't think like this. :shadedshu

Care to elaborate?