16-phase motherboards...

[PennySavre]

In P45 flavor, I know of the Asus P5Q Deluxe... are there any non-Asus P45 motherboards that have more than 8 phases?

 

[freaksavior]

sometimes more phases isn't always better.

The new msi x58 only uses 8 phases i believe.

 

[PennySavre]

That's kind of what I figured... I'm just looking for a motherboard that might be able to handle good overclocks on a Wolfdale or Yorkfield well. Perhaps better than something like a P5Q Pro could. But not very expensive and in Intel-chipset and with Crossfire support.

 

[Apocolypse007]

I believe the Core i7 allows for less phases because of it's design. Core 2 should benefit from more phases.

 

[freaksavior]

I believe the Core i7 allows for less phases because of it's design. Core 2 should benefit from more phases.

The Biostar Tpower I45 has 4 from what i find and it has set records.

 

[Darknova]

The Biostar Tpower I45 has 4 from what i find and it has set records.

I thought the Tpower was 6?

 

[modder]

8 or 16 phases, I think the quality of psu is also important.

 

[freaksavior]

I thought the Tpower was 6?

maybe it is. but still less than what he wants and has made wr

 

[Tatty_Two]

sometimes more phases isn't always better.

The new msi x58 only uses 8 phases i believe.

Thats simply because they dont need to go to the added expense, i7 is not expected to overclock to the heights of C2D and C2Q......it does not really need to.

Of course you are right, more phases after lets say 6, does not guarentee overclockability.....it should however guarentee stability.

 

[Tatty_Two]

That's kind of what I figured... I'm just looking for a motherboard that might be able to handle good overclocks on a Wolfdale or Yorkfield well. Perhaps better than something like a P5Q Pro could. But not very expensive and in Intel-chipset and with Crossfire support.

Biostar TPower P45????.........6 I beleive.

 

[PennySavre]

For overclock stability, would anyone recommend a motherboard other than the P5Q Deluxe that is non-Asus and around that price range or less? I'm kind of looking for Crossfire support too.

 

[Darknova]

Of course you are right, more phases after lets say 6, does not guarentee overclockability.....it should however guarentee stability.

More phases also allows you to run higher wattage chips, but considering Intels 45nm chips use such a small amount of power (relative to say, AMD's phenoms) it's surprising they have such a high number of phases when AMD boards use 4 or 5 phases at maximum lol.

 

[Tatty_Two]

For overclock stability, would anyone recommend a motherboard other than the P5Q Deluxe that is non-Asus and around that price range or less? I'm kind of looking for Crossfire support too.

As you have not listed your specs, I will guess it's a DDR2 board you are after, so a decent overclocker, with a decent amount of phases at a decent price but not Anus..........hmmmm......

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130179

And a good 11 board roundup that includes the MSI P45 platinum I have linked above (have a good read of this!), just showing how good it is for the price.....this board is only 6 phase but again, you will see just how good it is against the 12 and 16 phase boards

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-p45-motherboard,2001-38.html

 

[DOM]

For overclock stability, would anyone recommend a motherboard other than the P5Q Deluxe that is non-Asus and around that price range or less? I'm kind of looking for Crossfire support too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136047

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131317

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128336

 

[Tatty_Two]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136047

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131317

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128336

Link 1 - too expensive
Link 2 - too expensive and Asus so dont count
Link 3 - not p45 so dont count

So back to my MSi then......:

 

[James1991]

MSI P45 platinum is only 5 phase CPU power

 

[btarunr]

The "16 Phase" design ASUS flaunts is bull. Those are just eight phases with two sets of chokes and up/down MOSFETs AFAIK. There are driver ICs for only eight phases on those boards. By forking phases further, you may spread the load (in effect, heat) around (to increase component life), but you're stepping up wasteful power expenditure of the motherboard, since each of those redundant choke + FET sets have their own levels of core energy loss, etc.

 

[r9]

MSI P45 I must say it is bad choice. I had MSI P45 Neo3-fr for I week and let me tell you that I noticeable lost hair . Simply does not wants memories above 800 MHz. And weird FSB problem at above 300 FSB memory divider it was not working it was set to 1:2 so the memory was going 1600 MHz. I contacted MSI that give me user and pass to their ftp server so I can download beta bioses so I coud try. And on that server there were 5-6 bioses that were not on their web site for download. And try all of them and the problem stayed. I read on the net later to find out that more people had similar problems with MSI P45 boards.
First time I read review the reviewer complained about similar problem but I don`t pay too much attention because I was not planing on buy at that time and when time came I told my self that in the time that passed that it should be fixed vie latest bios but it was not.
I was looking for primary P5Q pro and P45 ds3r but I can`t find them so I settled for MSI P45.
MSI is brand that make amazing entry level board the best. And the design and quality are great they simple last. But I don`t what is going on with their fastest boards a lot of BIOS related problems.
Don`t go P45 MSI you will be sorry. I know that they have great price but it is not wort it.

 

[r9]

And make your choice based on other people expirience with P45. You may have a board on one side that has 32 phase that oc for shit and other with 4 phase that overclock like a dream what would go for ? All it is relative. Only the end product is what it matter the most all other is relative.

 

[Tatty_Two]

MSI P45 I must say it is bad choice. I had MSI P45 Neo3-fr for I week and let me tell you that I noticeable lost hair . Simply does not wants memories above 800 MHz. And weird FSB problem at above 300 FSB memory divider it was not working it was set to 1:2 so the memory was going 1600 MHz. I contacted MSI that give me user and pass to their ftp server so I can download beta bioses so I coud try. And on that server there were 5-6 bioses that were not on their web site for download. And try all of them and the problem stayed. I read on the net later to find out that more people had similar problems with MSI P45 boards.
First time I read review the reviewer complained about similar problem but I don`t pay too much attention because I was not planing on buy at that time and when time came I told my self that in the time that passed that it should be fixed vie latest bios but it was not.
I was looking for primary P5Q pro and P45 ds3r but I can`t find them so I settled for MSI P45.
MSI is brand that make amazing entry level board the best. And the design and quality are great they simple last. But I don`t what is going on with their fastest boards a lot of BIOS related problems.
Don`t go P45 MSI you will be sorry. I know that they have great price but it is not wort it.

The MSI I listed was not the neo3-fr, and after BIOS releases it is well know as being just about one of the best Mid ranged p45 overclocker out there, just look at the 11 board review i posted, in fact, if I was on DDR2 and not DDR3, I would have gone for that board, I have a friend who has it, and he is running an E8400 E0 stepping chip at 4.75gig on air!!

i am not suggesting there has not been problems with some of the MSI P45 boards, you just need to google the Asus PQ5 series DDr2 and DDR3 P45 boards to really see what problems I/they have had!

 

[James1991]

i have a MSI P45 Platinum and there is nothing wrong with it, the FSB is running fine at 470MHZ.

i have the UEFI BIOS on it (it looks cool and you can use the mouse)

the original BIOS is what causes the problems, before i switched to UEFI BIOS i couldnt get the FSB past 400MHZ

 

[DOM]

Link 1 - too expensive
Link 2 - too expensive and Asus so dont count
Link 3 - not p45 so dont count

So back to my MSi then......:

For overclock stability, would anyone recommend a motherboard other than the P5Q Deluxe that is non-Asus and around that price range or less? I'm kind of looking for Crossfire support too.

P45 not as good vs X48

 

[Tatty_Two]

P45 not as good vs X48

At what?.....Many P45 boards overclock E0 quads better than many x48's.....just an example

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Strange,i have had nil problems with my asus p5q-e,its running at 500fsb 24/7 fine.I would not mind trying a 45nm chip in it though,my 6750 is still kicking and screaming at 4ghz though so maybe next year.