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Id recommend the Antec P180/182 or the Antec P190 (with two psus). Or the CM Stacker line or Cosmos S.
 
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Well I was looking through my CPU and Maximum Pc magazines and I cept on seeing the Digital Storm advertisement, and I really liked the case, well I just found out the case that they where showing was the Silverstone TJ09 case. I really like it. Is it a good case?
 

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cable management is the only problem on that case and the price tag. lol

- Christine
 

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Well I was looking through my CPU and Maximum Pc magazines and I cept on seeing the Digital Storm advertisement, and I really liked the case, well I just found out the case that they where showing was the Silverstone TJ09 case. I really like it. Is it a good case?

I own the TJ-09 (the one with window), it is a very nice case of excellent build quality. However, like Christine said, cable management is an issue due, for the most part, to the PSU being mounted at the bottom. Other than that there are no problems with it, case has very good airflow and keeps things cool. But if you are gonna spend this kinda money get the Stacker 830 instead, it is better for hiding cables, looks nicer and has more fans. And i thought you wanted to get the Nvidia edition, what happened?
 
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cable management is the only problem on that case and the price tag. lol

- Christine

Well I new that the Cable management will be a problem, but I found one for $259, same as if I were paying for a CM Stacker.
 

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a couple months ago Newegg had the Cooler Master Stacker 830 Evo (White) for $99 AR, ouch? lol :( Stacker is my favorite case it has all the right ingredients except for Cable Management most people tuck away i'm sure you can also find some similar techniques with the TJ09.

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a couple months ago Newegg had the Cooler Master Stacker 830 Evo (White) for $99 AR, ouch? lol :(

- Christine

lol
Well I was thinking of the CM Stacker SLI Edition.
 

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you mean the Green nVidia Edition? all your getting is a paint job. the Stacker 830 nVidia Edition is basically a Stacker 830 with the 832 changes (EPS Support, RaptorX Rack and Rollers)

- Christine
 

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good, except for that horrible psu! A psu is one of the most important parts of a system. You could try to find a guide to decide what psu to take, i know there is a very good guide somewhere here in TPU, just google a bit
 

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you mean the Green nVidia Edition? all your getting is a paint job. the Stacker 830 nVidia Edition is basically a Stacker 830 with the 832 changes (EPS Support, RaptorX Rack and Rollers)

- Christine

True, but it costs $10 less than the 830 at newegg, if you do get it make sure the nvidia store doesn't kill you on shipping.
 
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Ok with the system I am planning on building. What would be the best 1000w+ PSU that will be under $300?
 

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The e8400 is better, of course. but i thought you were going with AMd Phenom?
 
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The e8400 is better, of course. but i thought you were going with AMd Phenom?

I am, but I was just wandering.
 
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The e8400 is better, of course. but i thought you were going with AMd Phenom?

Could you elaborate on that, cause a friend of mine is still saying that the 8400 is weaker than the 6400.
Could you explain why it is better?
 
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Intel's current chips are faster clock for clock than amd's. So, although this isn't a precise statment, you could say it would take about 3.6ghz x2 to equal the speed of a wolfdale running at 3ghz. Of course, you can oc the 8400 upwards of 4ghz fairly easily also, while I don't think the 6400+ can't go near that fast. So, all around, the wolfdale is a far faster chip. You would have to put a max oc on the 6400+ to roughly equal the speed of the e8400 at stock speeds (again not a perfect comparison, but hopefully you get the idea). Now, you probably wouldn't actually notice this difference in real world performance, some things may noticably be a bit faster, but it would take benchies to truely see the difference. And in benchies, the difference is fairly large. Take a look at the superpi thread here if you want some bench proof. Fastest Amd score comes in at #78, the top 77 going to intel. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say your friend owns amd? :)
 
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Yea, like farflex said, there is no doubt that 8400 is superior to the 6400+X2, look at at any benchmark and you will see that that is the case. I think the only thing the 6400 beats the e8400 at is memory benchmarks due to it having an onboard memory controller like all AMD chips. So the 6400 being superior to the e8400 is just wishful thinking on the part of your friend, who is no doubt an AMD fanatic, not that there is anything wrong with that, i am too, but one has to admit that intel has the upper hand now, especially when it comes to overclocking.

however, i would recomend that you hold off on your upgrade until the new intel & AMD platforms come out later this year. Intel socket 775 is a dead end in terms of upgrades since its being replaced by a new socket. AMD AM2+ mobos may or may not work with new AM3 CPUs, we just don't know at this point, they should in theory but who knows what AMD has in store for us. If this kind of future-proof is important to yiou wait for new chips if not and you don';t mind upgrading again in a year go with intel now, though a Phenom is also a nice choice. Good luck on whatever you decide.
 
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Yea, like farflex said, there is no doubt that 8400 is superior to the 6400+X2, look at at any benchmark and you will see that that is the case. I think the only thing the 6400 beats the e8400 at is memory benchmarks due to it having an onboard memory controller like all AMD chips. So the 6400 being superior to the e8400 is just wishful thinking on the part of your friend, who is no doubt an AMD fanatic, not that there is anything wrong with that, i am too, but one has to admit that intel has the upper hand now, especially when it comes to overclocking.

however, i would recomend that you hold off on your upgrade until the new intel & AMD platforms come out later this year. Intel socket 775 is a dead end in terms of upgrades since its being replaced by a new socket. AMD AM2+ mobos may or may not work with new AM3 CPUs, we just don't know at this point, they should in theory but who knows what AMD has in store for us. If this kind of future-proof is important to yiou wait for new chips if you don';t mind upgrading again in a year go with intel now, though a Phenom is also a nice choice. Good luck on whatever you decide.

lol, you keep saying farflex. That just doesn't make any sense......:laugh:
 
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I like AMD too, but if you want fast, get Intel. Shed yourself of your corporate allegience, and get more power for your dollar.
 

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