3700X voltages

[Bluecarz77]

Hey everyone. ive recently bought a 3700x and a bit of a cheapy motherboard and i noticed it was out of the box running at 1.47 Volts. which to me seems pretty high. I also work at a local pc store and many ryzen systems ive built seem to run at 1.4-1.48 volts and see them idling at 45c in the bios. has anyone else seen this and is this just normal? i have a pretty decent cooler on it and id like it to be idling at around 30c if possible. I have the proper amount of thermal paste applied and enough airflow in my case. ive seen this many times in multiple ryzen builds. i do know i have a 90$ motherboard and it wont let me adjust cpu voltage directly maybe thats it??

AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X
Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition | Cooler Master
GA-A320M-S2H
HyperX Kingston 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL16
GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER™ GAMING X - MSI
EVGA 550 N1, 550W
Kingston 1TB KC2000 M.2





https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-KC2000-2280-NVMe-Lanes/dp/B07S1PNP4T

 

[X71200]

That's a very bad board for that CPU in all fairness, you can cook that VRM. The PSU is also... VERY eh. Rest of the specs are nice, but you went for such horrible choices there. You could get a much better board for 90. Maybe try getting a pack of those old school VGA RAM cooling chip sinks and stick them on your VRM.

EVGA 400 N1 Power Supply – Page 6 – JonnyGURU.com

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[Bluecarz77]

Yeah man i cheaped out big time but i think its proooopably fine....for a bit anyways. Im probably getting a higher quality one this month. People always think you need a crazy power supply, I have it plugged into a watt meter and playing ark, gta 5, warzone it pulls a max of 290w. that's the highest wattage I've seen the system pull so far. As far as quality goes it could be better but gets the job done. I do understand its not the best quality power supply and that higher quality ones provide more clean power. but at least its not a cheap Thermaltake. They have such stiff wires and seem to have low efficiency. Idk in my experience anyways. I have a new motherboard on order cause this one sucks. was just a cheapy to get me going for a few months while i was getting a new one. As far as getting a much better board for 90 bucks idk man i live in northern Canada and i haven't seen much that cheap except for older stuff. Cost a bit to get stuff up here i guess and anything that costs 100 American is usually 150 by the time i get it. wish it wasn't like that. Should have just waited for the 5000 series maybe

 

[Zach_01]

Voltage alone doesn't say really anything. All ZEN2 CPUs when idling or light/middle loaded (browsing/watching videos or even gaming) are running around 1.4~1.5V but not constantly. When the load is starting to increase they gradually drop voltage until the level to 100% load voltage which is different for any SKU (1.25~1.35V). High voltage with low load, hence low current(A) and low PPT(W) does not produce high temperatures.
What power plan are you using? Win version latest? BIOS version latest? Chipset drivers latest (from AMD website)?

Look my 3600 on light load (~2%) hitting (on very short bursts) almost max boost (4.2GHz) and 1.45V (SVI2 TFN sensor).
I'm pointing some key sensors below for real time(current values) and average values. This is after about 5½ hours of idling and low-middle usage.

 

[Toothless]

I wouldn't mess with anything with how bad that board is.

 

[Xzibit]

Voltage alone doesn't say really anything. All ZEN2 CPUs when idling or light/middle loaded (browsing/watching videos or even gaming) are running around 1.4~1.5V but not constantly. When the load is starting to increase they gradually drop voltage until the level to 100% load voltage which is different for any SKU (1.25~1.35V). High voltage with low load, hence low current(A) and low PPT(W) does not produce high temperatures.
What power plan are you using? Win version latest? BIOS version latest? Chipset drivers latest (from AMD website)?

Look my 3600 on light load (~2%) hitting (on very short bursts) almost max boost (4.2GHz) and 1.45V (SVI2 TFN sensor).
I'm pointing some key sensors below for real time(current values) and average values. This is after about 5½ hours of idling and low-middle usage.

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Noise sensor 90 db ? Hows your hearing ? I hope its broken or there is an error.

 

[Bluecarz77]

yeah its such a bad board haha im getting a new one here shortly. thanks everyone for your input. I always invite suggestions

 

[Zach_01]

Noise sensor 90 db ? Hows your hearing ? I hope its broken or there is an error.

Invalid reading

 

[Bluecarz77]

Has anyone had much luck overclocking a 3000 series Ryzen cpu?

 

[AsRock]

Should find some info here

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

I'm posting this in case anyone wants a Ryzen thread for troubleshooting and guidance. As someone with a build about to happen, I have a feeling I might need some help. New wave of CPU'S means teething probs. So, feedback on BIOS issues, memory hints and general tweaks could be useful. Trolls...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Zach_01]

A lot users do overclock these CPUs... but usually you lose single thread performance and gain on multi thread. There is no ZEN2 chip that can overclock all cores above max rated boost, not even close to max reated boost.
Personally I'm against static speeds and voltages on 3000, unless someone is going for underclock/undervoltage.

 

[Bluecarz77]

thank you all for your input. still deciding on a motherboard, supposed to be ordering one today. have 240 usd to spend. any recommendations?

 

[Toothless]

Higher end AsRock, MSI is pretty good, Gigabyte seems to be first on BIOS updates. Don't do the AsRock steel legends boards because those are junk. For your budget look at MSI.

 

[oobymach]

They don't overclock as well as previous generation chips and run very hot when left to their own devices (mine would hit between 80-85 degrees on auto).

AMD themselves say if you manually set the voltage over 1.35v on the 3000 series cpu's it will cause degradation. 1.38v will cause degradation. Even my mobo feeds it way too much voltage on auto so I manually set my 3600x at 1.25v and 4.2ghz. It never gets hot now, but I'm not sure what clocks the 3800x can reach with 1.2 to 1.3v.

 

[Toothless]

They don't overclock as well as previous generation chips and run very hot when left to their own devices (mine would hit between 80-85 degrees on auto).

AMD themselves say if you manually set the voltage over 1.35v on the 3000 series cpu's it will cause degradation. 1.38v will cause degradation. Even my mobo feeds it way too much voltage on auto so I manually set my 3600x at 1.25v and 4.2ghz. It never gets hot now, but I'm not sure what clocks the 3800x can reach with 1.2 to 1.3v.

You do know that 3xxx chips raise voltage when idle and drop under load right? The 1.45v people see is when the chip is doing nothing. Good luck getting every 3700x and 3800x to run clean on 1.2v.

 

[Bluecarz77]

okay so right now with my current setup i have the turbo boost option on my bios set to enabled (the only type of cpu fiddling it lets me do) and if its set like that itl idle at 1.0V then anything i do, open the task manager, my documents.. afterburner .. anything it spikes up to 1.495 volts, every time, over and over again. i thought THAT if anything would degrade my cpu,(maybe not??) i was hoping by buying a better motherboard i could set the voltage to just 1.3 ish or whatever it needed to stay stable and then have it not spike every second. i should have said this all at the beginning lol

Toothless if your correct then its working normally? it just revs the fans and everything up every few seconds to ( i know i can set my fans differently) its just stupid and anoying ive never had such a muck around with cpu voltages and temps and everything. ive seend of 3 or 4 people who have left theirs like that and there cpu died after a year, (maybe a coincidence??) idk what do you guys think

 

[Toothless]

You could set a fixed voltage if you're super concerned to 1.35v.

No load = high voltage. They offset with a vdroop during loads.

 

[Bluecarz77]

yeah thats what i was thinking. this board wont let me do it but im buying one tonight that will be able to

 

[oobymach]

You do know that 3xxx chips raise voltage when idle and drop under load right? The 1.45v people see is when the chip is doing nothing. Good luck getting every 3700x and 3800x to run clean on 1.2v.

You may not hit as high a single core score but multi thread is generally better with a set clock (mine would dip to 4.1ghz on auto) and yes the voltage would drop every so often but I found it just hovered at a specific voltage when tasked and every 3 seconds it would momentarily drop voltage to 0.9v or less for less than a second and then right back up over 1.4v for 3 or more seconds before a quick drop and so on. You'd probably be surprised how much you can drop temps by limiting voltage and cpu speed, mine is around 15-20 degrees difference.

 

[Toothless]

You may not hit as high a single core score but multi thread is generally better with a set clock (mine would dip to 4.1ghz on auto) and yes the voltage would drop every so often but I found it just hovered at a specific voltage when tasked and every 3 seconds it would momentarily drop voltage to 0.9v or less and then right back up over 1.4v for 3 or more seconds before a quick drop and so on. You'd probably be surprised how much you can drop temps by limiting voltage and cpu speed, mine is around 15-20 degrees difference.

I'm on 4.4ghz all core with 1.27v full load. Sure you can sit there all day playing with clocks and voltages but it also will run perfectly fine at stock.

 

[oobymach]

I'm on 4.4ghz all core with 1.27v full load. Sure you can sit there all day playing with clocks and voltages but it also will run perfectly fine at stock.

It's supposed to run fine stock it just runs a lot hotter on its own (at least in my case). Also I think 3800x can hit higher clocks than 3600x with less voltage.

 

[Bluecarz77]

of course. as soon as i buy a motherboard for my gaming rig my server starts acting funny..raid setup drives are clicking and wont post with the 690 in it had to use onboard video. anyone have some insite? im pretty sure it need a psu

 

[biffzinker]

but I'm not sure what clocks the 3800x can reach with 1.2 to 1.3v.

Depends on the model you pick (my 3800X rates as a Gold bin), and the silicon lottery. With 1.25V mine is 4,275 MHz for CCX0/4.3 GHz for CCX1.

 

[Athlonite]

Depends on the model you pick (my 3800X rates as a Gold bin), and the silicon lottery. With 1.25V mine is 4,275 MHz for CCX0/4.3 GHz for CCX1.

Did you get that rating using CTR if so I wouldn't trust it as far as you could kick it, CTR 1.1 beta 3 rated my 3700x as gold updated to CTR 1.1 beta 7 and now it says Bronze err WTF

 

[Bluecarz77]

hey guys just got this

Amazon.ca

Installed it was running my 3700x at 1.495 volts , well throttling it up to that when it needed to and was idling at 37c. adjusted the voltage down to 1.2 at 4ghz and is idling at 29 c and games 11c cooler now and does well in gaming. awesome motherboard SO FAR.