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IMO they are weighting the CPU far too heavily in the cloud gate and fire strike tests.
Cloud gate seems to be more cpu weighted while firestrike seems to be more gpu weighted.

@hammeron
I think the latest beta 5 drivers fix the issue.
 

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Cloud gate seems to be more cpu weighted while firestrike seems to be more gpu weighted.
IMO it's too much in both cases - a 4.8 GHz 2600k + single 7970 scores more than a stock 2600k + CF 7970s in cloud gate, and while the graphics score scales perfectly with CF, in Fire Strike the overall score scaling is about 68% in Fire Strike and 80% in Fire Strike Extreme.

I think the cloud gate result is a bit silly but I understand it, though I think Fire Strike should be even more heavily GPU weighted as it's the only test that's actually demanding on the GPU.
 

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Agree 100%^^^ in regards to Fire Strike (I don't really care about the other tests).
This was one of the reasons I really liked 3DMARK 11.
 

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Dang. I could probably catch up with your overclock but it would not be enough because your cpu>mine. I knew it would not last though.
Well I tried to get more put in the delidded cpu back and 13.2 beta 4 drivers cpu isn't stable and ccc crashes when first booting in to Windows FML XD
 
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The thread has no solutions, thats a bummer. Downclock your 7870, it's only a few clicks away to try. The first time I tried 1200 on the 7870 in 3Dmark13 it crashed 1/2 through. At 1100 all was fine. Nothing has crashed the 7870 till 3Dmark13... worth a look.
Everything works fine now. It was the 3dmark setting in help called systeminfo hardware monitoring.I disabled it and works great. That setting causes conflict with some motherboard bios and instant/random crashes. All is well now :toast:
 
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@OP that 12k run from HammerON is the normal Fire Strike, not Fire Strike Extreme

I haven't checked thoroughly but MetalRacer and myself are the only two who have posted Extreme scores so far, I think.
 
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lol this can get confusing at times.
 
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lol this can get confusing at times.
I can imagine!

Don't take this as me picking on what you're doing, but:
MetalRacer's score of 3547 on a 680 should be listed under the Maxed Out/Uber section as that was an Extreme Run.

My score of 7000 something from my original post should also be listed under the Maxed Out/Uber section as that also was an Extreme Run (multi-GPU though, dunno if you want to distinguish)

Both the current listings under the Maxed Out/Uber section (mine with all the normal tests, and HammerON's) should be moved as they belong above in the multiple GPU section for normal runs.

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This bench kicking my butt right now. Don't think these are proper scores, anyone else having these issues? Google didn't say anything about people having this issue yet. I'm guessing it
s a driver issue right now:confused:.


I've tried 12.11 beta, and 13.1, both with CAP 12.11 #2. Driver crash on Fire Strike when I try to run 1 GPU core...I just don't know...maybe I'm doing something wrong here:banghead:?
 
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I know the AMD 13.2 driver is approved for these benchmarks...might try that first.
 
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Having a problem with mine atm. Running Firestorm with the 980X @ 3990MHz it scored a 3508...thought it a bit low, but unsure. Just ran it again with the cpu clocked to 4350MHz and the two GTX 460's clocked even higher and it scored a lower 3502. Not sure what to think of it atm. :confused: I need some input from other GTX 460 users if there are any out there.
 
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IMO it's too much in both cases - a 4.8 GHz 2600k + single 7970 scores more than a stock 2600k + CF 7970s in cloud gate, and while the graphics score scales perfectly with CF, in Fire Strike the overall score scaling is about 68% in Fire Strike and 80% in Fire Strike Extreme.

I think the cloud gate result is a bit silly but I understand it, though I think Fire Strike should be even more heavily GPU weighted as it's the only test that's actually demanding on the GPU.
Ice Storm is designed for tablets, phones and very very old DX9 cards. Unsurprisingly it is a CPU test on modern high end desktops.

Cloud Gate is designed for old DX10-only cards, integrated graphics, APUs and low end budget cards (think GT 520, HD 6450 and such). Unsurprisingly it too will rapidly turn into a CPU test on high end setups.

Use the correct test depending on your hardware. For modern gaming PC, that is Fire Strike. And look; it isn't purely a CPU test on such hardware :) - now CPU still matters, because it matters also in games, but it is weighted towards GPU. And you get Graphics and Physics scores to compare raw performance in those categories.

The performance range that 3DMark tries to cover is just so massive that the only way to do it is to have separate benchmarks for each device category. You can run the lightweight tests also on high end systems but after certain point the framerates are just so high that the CPU is the only thing that matters there - you can still compare, but you have to realize that such comparison is basically "yeah, this modern system is WAY faster, so much faster that the measurement accuracy is harmed by it".

Also the cloudgate CF vs no CF is showing the inefficiencies of Crossfire in driver code (eats more CPU).

Also those having issues with AMD cards - any driver prior to 13.2 beta 3 has known issues (does not render everything, can crash). Use latest betas or wait for next set of WHQLs.
 
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Thanks for the explanation and AMD driver tip:toast:
 

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The beta 4 aren't working for me in single card :(
 
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Benchmark Scores Look, it's a Ryzen on air........ What's the point?
Also those having issues with AMD cards - any driver prior to 13.2 beta 3 has known issues (does not render everything, can crash). Use latest betas or wait for next set of WHQLs.
Explains a lot. I'm on 12.11 beta 11's. But they're so stable for gaming for me I'm not updating drivers till the generic latency fix is applied (not just to specific games).

And jesus do my cards squeal when they're rendering 1500 fps :laugh:
 
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Explains a lot. I'm on 12.11 beta 11's. But they're so stable for gaming for me I'm not updating drivers till the generic latency fix is applied (not just to specific games).

And jesus do my cards squeal when they're rendering 1500 fps :laugh:
"3DMark - makes video cards squeal"

Hmm, that might be a good marketing slogan! :D
 
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"3DMark - makes video cards squeal"

Hmm, that might be a good marketing slogan! :D
Feel free, I'll e-mail my paypal account for royalties ;)
 
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The beta 4 aren't working for me in single card :(
Try beta5? AMD seems to be rolling out betas daily now :)

beta 5 supposedly has now Crossfire profile for 3DMark as well - at least our test rig happily ran in crossfire without forcing it.
 
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