7800X3D - idle frequency range & temperature questions

[Klemc]

I ust read recently this "AMD" power plands are for Ryzen 2000-3000.

 

[Flogger23m]

Did you upgrade from Ryzen 3000 series (or earlier) while keeping your Windows installation by any chance? If so, did you uninstall and reinstall the chipset driver?

Yes using the same install, upgraded a few months back. Current chipset driver is installed, maybe I didn't uninstall the old one. Switched to Balanced.

Running Win 10.

 

[AusWolf]

Yes using the same install, upgraded a few months back. Current chipset driver is installed, maybe I didn't uninstall the old one. Switched to Balanced.

Running Win 10.

In that case, uninstall the chipset driver completely, and only then install the latest one. There's no more "AMD Ryzen" plan from 5000 series onwards.

 

[ThrashZone]

What I will like is the day I don't need a video card at all. Already got rid of the rest of the cables.

Hi,
Think that is called a laptop hehe

 

[Flogger23m]

Been playing some games with HW Info and Riva Tuner running the overlay in game so I can check in real time. Haven't changed any settings yet aside from changing the power plan to balanced.

Seems like currently (65F/18.3C), it runs around 58-62C with the fan RPM at 1,100 (max is 1,500). There is the occasional spike into the 70s but that looks normal for gaming. Games were MW2 and Cyberpunk 2077.

Edit: DCS World runs hotter, with temperatures in the low 70s and RPM at around 1,300. Not too surprising as that is more CPU demanding than most games.

 

[Methodical]

If temps are within specs I just go to sleep and wake up the next morning without a care about this stuff.

 

[tabascosauz]

Been playing some games with HW Info and Riva Tuner running the overlay in game so I can check in real time. Haven't changed any settings yet aside from changing the power plan to balanced.

Seems like currently (65F/18.3C), it runs around 58-62C with the fan RPM at 1,100 (max is 1,500). There is the occasional spike into the 70s but that looks normal for gaming.

the reason i asked about the hidden sensors is because unless individual core temps are also logging consistently within 5-10c of Tctl/tdie, the tdie values should just be considered lightly threaded hotspot spikes. Which is consistent with how Tctl/tdie usually works. 7800X3D just seems to do it a lot in games

in all-core tests, it seems to behave more normally in line with 5800X3D

 

[Flogger23m]

the reason i asked about the hidden sensors is because unless individual core temps are also logging consistently within 5-10c of Tctl/tdie, the tdie values should just be considered lightly threaded hotspot spikes. Which is consistent with how Tctl/tdie usually works. 7800X3D just seems to do it a lot in games

in all-core tests, it seems to behave more normally in line with 5800X3D

Under the layout tab, everything is set to "Yes". Where should I look for any other sensors/values that may be hidden?

 

[tabascosauz]

Under the layout tab, everything is set to "Yes". Where should I look for any other sensors/values that may be hidden?

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idk what's going on with the layout tab there, but you've done a lot of customization of sensor order, so maybe you'd have to reset to default to show them all

Individual temps are in a dropdown

I don't usually drag and drop stuff around because the more you move the more haywire HWInfo gets

 

[67Elco]

Under the layout tab, everything is set to "Yes". Where should I look for any other sensors/values that may be hidden?

View attachment 336707

Use the arrows at the bottom left to condense the graph (tighten to single pane) and go vertical so you can scroll through the entire chart.

 

[Flogger23m]

idk what's going on with the layout tab there, but you've done a lot of customization of sensor order, so maybe you'd have to reset to default to show them all

Individual temps are in a dropdown

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I don't usually drag and drop stuff around because the more you move the more haywire HWInfo gets

These?



Will run some games and then do another handbrake encode and check those.

 

[AusWolf]

Been playing some games with HW Info and Riva Tuner running the overlay in game so I can check in real time. Haven't changed any settings yet aside from changing the power plan to balanced.

Seems like currently (65F/18.3C), it runs around 58-62C with the fan RPM at 1,100 (max is 1,500). There is the occasional spike into the 70s but that looks normal for gaming. Games were MW2 and Cyberpunk 2077.

Edit: DCS World runs hotter, with temperatures in the low 70s and RPM at around 1,300. Not too surprising as that is more CPU demanding than most games.

That's really good.

My fan curve is at 0% up to 60 °C. With two hard drives in the system, there's no need for excessive noise, eh?

 

[tabascosauz]

These?

Will run some games and then do another handbrake encode and check those.

yessir

You reminded me that I will have to properly test DCS on the new CPU as I haven't done it yet. Some short flights had me in the 50-60c region but I haven't run any of my bigger missions lately.

I'm not convinced that fan speed matters much to the 7800X3D at all. I run a completely flat 1400rpm curve on my T30s, 1400rpm all the way until 85C. FC140 and PA120 have very similar performance on this CPU since there's basically no wattage to speak of.

 

[Flogger23m]

yessir

You reminded me that I will have to properly test DCS on the new CPU as I haven't done it yet. Some short flights had me in the 50-60c region but I haven't run any of my bigger missions lately.

I'm not convinced that fan speed matters much to the 7800X3D at all. I run a completely flat 1400rpm curve on my T30s, 1400rpm all the way until 85C. FC140 and PA120 have very similar performance on this CPU since there's basically no wattage to speak of.

Quick mission in DCS. A bigger mission on the newer maps might be a bit more demanding. Ambient temp is 65 F / 18.3 C.