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9600KF Project Phase III: major case upgrade + another supplemental radiator

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Spending $hundreds, plus time, on custom watercooling a 6c/6t skylake is not the definition of logic, regardless of how fun it is. No judgement, just warning you to not try and convince him, it's a waste of time.
It's a waste of time, exactly correct. Contrary to popular belief, you can chose your own CPU as personal preference.
 
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I remember that, but it's also his money. Not everyone here makes the smartest choices and there are some obvious examples on the forums.
Honestly I did it because I wanted the practice. Had not so much experience with custom water cooling before this one. People are so black and white (not you) in their thinking sometimes they cant even fathom that there may be different reasons out side the norm that they have not taken into account when assessing hardware or water cooling components of some else's build. I wanted to work with soft tube and go with top notch compression fittings so that's exactly what I did.
 
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Slight thread modification here which should make this more interesting: this thread will actually have two parallel builds going on at the same time. Figured I might as well include what I will be doing with the Gamerstorm BARONKASE LIQUID case listed in the first post as well (its a pretty radical case as well). Will be getting a Phenom II X6 to run at 3.9-4.0GHz and a high clocking CPU-NB. I found the same kit of 8GB of 1600MHz DDR3 CL7 ram used in the original rig. I have a period correct Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 GPU to go with it and Antec 620W High Current Gamer PSU. I also acquired the same motherboard as what originally existed in the first iteration which was shocking I've been searching once or twice every few months for that board FOR 4 YEARS and long after losing hope that I would ever find one again out of the blue I gave ebay a shot and what do you know? There it was with a $44 buy it now option. That would be the Biostar TA880GU3+ which is basically a T-Series (which is more of their high end stuff) micro-atx piece that you wouldn't expect to be a performer, but in all reality, it is a kick ass motherboard with extensive memory timings and in depth memory tweaking and had no problem holding a 4.0GHz daily driver overclock that was push hard intensively for over ten years, a testament that while nothing to write home about, the VRM section is up to the task. With everything in place my best latency number with this board was 33.9ns which is actually better than the majority of heavily overlocked i7 and i9 processors to put that into perspective. Goal is to hit that again since I have all period correct hardware that was identical to the original build with the exception of a 970 Zosma CPU. So what's a good substitute? Well the Zosma 960T, of course. Which was also an OEM processor but sold to the public at some point so they are really easy to find and are basically the last best hope for a shot at a high end X6 unlocked build. The 960T has a base clock of 3.0GHz and a boost clock of 3.4GHz IIRC, but they seem to overclock pretty well. So that being said I have about 10 960T chips to parcel through and bin to see if I can find something to match the performance requirements of the OG build. So all of this stuff will be going in the gamerstorm case. Check out the pretty sick lighting here:

BARONKASE LIQUID GAMER STORM CASES

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With identical hardware, the goal of the project we be trying to match my original latency number that I hit back in the day, which is 35.5 here but in actuality I did pull off a 33.9 ns latency near the end of my bench session. Details (will be mirroring this as much as possible, obviously this is not a daily driver overclock):



Regarding this supplemental Gamerstorm project, I am essentially putting together a nearly identical performance base relative to the OG Phenom II hexacore rig that I assembled almost a decade ago. That original system had a very rare OEM only 970 Zosma CPU, which comes from the factory with all six cores but two disabled, non turbo and has a base clock of 3.5GHz. Indicating, with a successful unlock you will get six cores at 3.5GHz, making it AMD's most powerful statically clocked CPU in the entire Phenom II lineup. In point of fact, the Zosma 970 is the rarest processor in the entire Phenom II lineup. They are basically impossible to find nowadays (you can find it's Deneb X4 counterpart all over the web, just not the Zosma one and that's much more desirable.) But if you do find one, they really perform on a very high level. My first Zosma 970 successfully unlocked into a Hexacore that was stable at 3.9-4.0 for daily driving. Also had a great CPU-NB that I was able to push to 3121MHz for benching.

Second OEM 970 (these came from overseas by the way back in like 2012) Zosma would only unlock a single core the other one was not stable, making for five cores which is still pretty decent. But what was most impressive about this particular chip is that it would clock reliably to 4.3GHz (air cooled) and I basically ran it this way for years.

This is actually a trend with OEM only chips for both intel and AMD alike. Their OEM only chips tend to be superior to their retail counterparts in some cases including higher turbo clock speeds and doing it with a lower TDP, indicating better voltage efficiency as well.

*The Phenom II build is mostly complete in the old case, but once swapped over to the gamerstorm white case I will try matching that OC result I mentioned earlier since we have liquid cooling and better airflow. Will probably stick it outside the window on the porch to try to hit those #s. Also forgot to mention the gamerstorm case comes with a pre-installed 120mm liquid cooling loop so that is another upgrade to see about pushing a little higher than 4.0Ghz.
 
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Seriously, can you grow up? I think everyone is getting sick of you with nothing but negative energy on what is a kick ass, high performance build that is going to look pretty sick in the new case. Please don't be our negative nancy!
 
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The case looks like a big step up for minimalism but airflow looks tough. On the topic of delid I just remembered this from a few months back:
Airflow through this case is actually superb and matches the corsair $170.00 750D, which is a full size ATX monster with huge 140mm fans as opposed to 120mm fans on the case I selected. They both perform identically in terms of getting heat out of the case.
 
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see everyone, its not a plastic cooler after all! Guess that explains why he thought it sucked so bad... I bet he literally thought it was an all plastic air cooler. LOL
 
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lets all keep focused on the build we will not be derailed... thanks all for being respectful going forward.

Here is the GPU we will be using with the 9600KF rig.

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Noctua Fans all around!


Where the new case will be perched.


All Hail MSI!

 
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Those white cases look very clean, good aesthetic.
 
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HEATKILLER IV is simply dynamite!
 
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If there is one thing certain in this life it's the small fact that my HEATKILLER water block was definitely NOT made in China! lol










Memory (4166mhz cl 18)


MSI MEG Z390 ACE mobo
 
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You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. so it will take a number of other rigs and I'm in the process of dismantling them and harvesting what I need to complete the 9600KF build.

Regular assembly/disassembly line going on here.

 
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I'm happy with the controversy to some extent because this thread already has over 2000 views and its only 4-5 days old. So there is a silver lining after all. The thread visibility is excellent at the moment. With more and more eyes watching I will be sure to come up with some new and creative ways and idea's to deck this build out. Stay tuned!

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Hi,
Kind of like a moth to a flame lol
 
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So instead of Noctua I decided to go to fractal for the 120mm fans to fill out the rest of the case, seeing as though I already have three of them (installed on the 360mm rad), plus the black and white color scheme matches the case and the theme of the build very nicely. So I will need at least another three of these. And yes, they are PWM.

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What is the effectiveness of a passive radiator? I doubt any at all, but I wanted to run it past you guys at the very least. And I suppose it also has to do with how good the airflow is through the case.

Reason I am asking is because I am running into a clearance issue with the 360mm radiator that is supposed to fit in the bottom of the case.

Due to a bad PCIe slot on the motherboard, I am forced to use the lower, secondary PCIe slot for my GPU and that doesn't leave much extra room for the cooler and fans.

If I cannot get this to work effectively due to space constraints, I might save this case for a future build and go back to the original coolermaster case where I can run the 360mm radiator without issue.
 
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Anyone out there familiar with bus speed overclocking on the z390 / 9th gen Intel Coffee lake chips? Such as my 9600KF? I can seem to get up to 150MHz easily... how far should I push it?

And apparently, I now have a i5 9400 :D

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The haters are really going to love this little update. :laugh:

New case... psych!

Due to reservoir constraints I've put the guts of this build back into my Coolermaster case. But one good thing, airflow through the case is enough to hit 5.6GHz. So the case may be flawed but we are still breaking personal bests with it! lol The new case will be used for a future Ryzen build...

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