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Hi Guys

Thank you so much for your help setting this pc up.

At the moment im having issues maintaining a consistent fps. Once game starts up im running around 50-90 fps with 11520x2160. After running this for no less than 20 minutes the pc will almost hit the brick wall. Temps are all very consistent and i cannot find any programs that open up causing this.

So i thought i would notch it back a bit to 1 4k monitor and the same thing happens even though everything appears to be cruising.

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GPU- 1080ti poseidon x2 SLI
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We need more info.

System specs, game(s), perhaps a quick video showing the behaviour if possible. And mostly how are these monitors hooked up.
 
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We need more info.

System specs, game(s), perhaps a quick video showing the behaviour if possible. And mostly how are these monitors hooked up.
Certainly

Games noticed so far-
Wolfenstein- new order
Wolfenstein- the old blood
League of Legends
Total War- Warhammer

GPU- 1080ti poseidon x2
CPU- 4930k
RAM- 64gb Kingston hyperbeast 2400mhz???
PSU-1000w

No over clocks are set at the moment

Monitors are hooked up in Surround, run through displayport. 2 display ports on lead card, 1 on the other.

Ive noticed when the system faults its sudden and cannot even do basic actions on windows without it beings very choppy. Yet couldnt find anything running in the background. I could try acouple benchmarks at stock clocks atm and see if something happens? What do you guys recommend?

Many thanks
 
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Temps are all very consistent
Please provide specifics.

Did everything used to work fine with this hardware configuration? Or has this been a problem since day 1?

I would cut back to 32GB of RAM and see what happens. Then swap in other 32GB and see what happens.
 
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good point Bill.
and maybe your hx750 is overheating? where it gets the fresh air?

try hwinfo64 and ya get all the temps+volts in 1 window
 
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why are you stacking PSUs like that ? The lower one should be facing down or else there's no airflow to it!

A MSI afterburner log would be helpful to see the cpu and gpu usage and other crucial parameters.
 
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why are you stacking PSUs like that ? The lower one should be facing down or else there's no airflow to it!

A MSI afterburner log would be helpful to see the cpu and gpu usage and other crucial parameters.
they're not stacked. The case is a Lian Li DK02. Have a look If you want.

I'll have a wee looksy at the afterburner a d crank into some games today then
 
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Are you sure is not the latest banana update (creators) for Windows 10 causing that fps drops?
Because i friend of mine after that update have really big Fps drops for no reason and the game then remain at that lower fps .
Bf1 before the update always at 75 fps with no drops , after the update drops at 25/20 fps and the game remain in that state.
 

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And he is gone, never to be heard from again
 
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And he is gone, never to be heard from again
Still testing the system. It only does it on 11520x2160. Resetting the computer will reset it so i dont think its temp. When both computers are running benchmarks, gpu temps are around 57 and cycling their own fans and cpus around 42. Ive got 4 noctua 120pwm 3000rpm fan motors on the thickest 240 ek rads. These noisey liitle !@#$ers take off if temps get slightly too high.

Will still keep this posted if i find anything
 

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Still testing the system. It only does it on 11520x2160.
I take it this is verified by using only one monitor?
 
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I think the issue is, when you drive multiple monitors the GPUs are clocking down to desktop mode after a while or maybe after you do something specific. Use GPU-Z to monitor clocks of the GPU as well as utilization (usage) and report what you see here, also provide a screenshot.

Could also be a problem with SLI, monitor clocks of both GPUs.
 
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I take it this is verified by using only one monitor?
Was until tonight. But had msi after burner logs to reset after log back in. Rectified now. Gaming for longer periods seems to set it off. Will get a decent run tomorrow and will let you know :)
 
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Update, seems to be random and a program issue. Tonight it done the same issue after running dialog. Installed a new game on steam and it had the option to run it. After trying it a second time, no issue. MSI afterburner doesnt seem to pick up background applications or processors. Is there something else i could use to can this also or am i using it wrong?

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Hi guys, i have caught my pc frame rate dropping acouple times now but only until just then did i get a good enough msi log of it. Do you want me to update photos to show you guys what happens when it drops? It seems to spike really bad at first then slowly spikes worse and worse until its next to unplayable. Just then i got booted from Diablo 3 and had less than 3 fps. Reset and fine, note when it get bad and i exit out even simple tasks on the desktop take longer than they should

Please provide specifics.

Did everything used to work fine with this hardware configuration? Or has this been a problem since day 1?

I would cut back to 32GB of RAM and see what happens. Then swap in other 32GB and see what happens.
How do i upload MSI Logs for you guys to see, or do you want me to upload photos of it all. Im not sure i can cut back the ram as ive water cooled it with acrylic tube. Will be a little tricky to remove. Maybe i can switch off in bios.
 
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You said your temps are consistent, that does not tell us anything. What are your temps?
 

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Alt tab out of the game and give us the complete list of programs and services that are running in task manager.

Mining bugs can cause issues.
 
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You said your temps are consistent, that does not tell us anything. What are your temps?
This is over 3 hours gaming on a single 4k monitor. Water loop is in series (one circuit)
min/max 'C
GPU1 temp: 28, 44
GPU2 temp: 26, 36
CPU1 temp 23/40
CPU2 temp 23/41
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CPU6 temp 24/40
CPU7 temp 19/38
CPU8 temp 19/38
CPU9 temp 18/35
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CPU temp 23/43

Alt tab out of the game and give us the complete list of programs and services that are running in task manager.

Mining bugs can cause issues.
Mining bugs? Will be gaming again tonight will see if it drops again. Thanks

I take it this is verified by using only one monitor?
Happens during 3 monitors and/or just 1 monitor. Must've been lucky for some time with just the one monitor running
 
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Sempron Guy was having Spikes himself, maybe he can help here too

@Sempron Guy

This could be the root cause of it all

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...ment_internal-post-here-if-you-got-it.238131/
I have no-idea what all that means sorry. I was watching netflix tonight and it done it. So what ever causes it is internal to my pc, I took photos of all my processes running and will post to this shortly theres a few. Only reason i noticed it was because i moved the mouse and the show froze up for acouple seconds. was streaming in HD just fine.
 
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If that happens with one monitor as well, try running Afterburner monitoring graphs on the other monitor. CPU/GPU temperatures, clocks, RAM/VRAM usage, GPU/CPU throttle states.
 
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If that happens with one monitor as well, try running Afterburner monitoring graphs on the other monitor. CPU/GPU temperatures, clocks, RAM/VRAM usage, GPU/CPU throttle states.
ive got MSI afterburning running. Its very hard to pick the exact point it happens but i do have a report and unsure how to share it. I notice the clock speeds all dropped at point of choppyness and so did the temp. ive got a list of all programs running but unfortunately when up loaded it decreases quality so im going to write them all down now. Theres allot!
 
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There's three pages this size of stuff running. Will edit this and update it with each page.

WMI Provider Host
Spotify (32 bit)
Windows audio device graph...
Teamspeak 3 client
desktop windows manager
corsair link 4 (32 bit)
System
task manager
windows explorer
client server runtime process
corsair link 4 service (32 bit)
service host: windows manage
overwolf (32 bit)
spotify (32 bit)
Steam client bootstrapper (32 b...
Antimalware service executable
microsoft windows search inde....
service host: remote procedure....
rzstats.manager (32 bit)
system interrupts
razer ingameengine (32 bit)
microsoft network realtime ins....
service host: super fetch
Gamescanner (32 bit)
service host: Tile data model se...
ledcontrolservice (32 bit)
League of Legends (32 bit)
host process for windows tasks
service host: Diagnostic Policy
services and controller app
application fframe host
League of Legends (32 bit)
League of Legends (32 bit)
League of Legends (32 bit)
Overwolf.teamspeakhelper (32 bit)
service host group policy client
Razer Chromium Render Proces...
Overwolfbrowser (32 bit)
Razer chromium render proces...
service host windows license ...
service host:tcp/ip netbios H...
Host process for setting synchr
Steam client service (32 bit)
Steam client ... (32 bit)

Google crash handler (32 bit)
service host application infor...
service host tokenbroker
service host microsoft passpor...
service host: ip helper
originwebhelperservice (32 bit)
service host server
service host diagnostic service
64-bit synaptics pointing enhan...
windows security health service
Nvidia container (32 bit)
nvidia container
service host wndows push no...
bluetooth radio management s...
aaHMSvc (32 bit)
service host: windows image a...
service host: distributed link tr...
service host: program compati...
service host: UtcSvc
service host: IKE and authIP IPs...
service host: Crytographic ser...
atkexComSvc (32 bit)
service host: winHTTP web Pro...
service host: workstation
service host: local service (no ...
Spooler subsystem app
service host: shell hardware De...
service host: local system (net...
service host: state repository S....
 
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service host: local service (net...
service host: local service (net...
service host: local service (net...
service host: dns client
service host: network list service
service host: device associatio...
service host: network location ...
service host: Windows front ca...
service host: windows audio E...
service host: system event noti...
service host: DHCP Client
service host: NEtwork store Int...
service host: COM+ Event Syste...
service host: Themes
service host: Windows event log
Nvidia Container
Windows driver foundation - U...
service host: user manager
service host: time broker
service host: user profile service
service host: bluetooth support
service host: human interface ...
Windoqa driver foundation - U...
service host: network connecti....
service host: local system (net...
service host: local session man...
Usermode front driver host
service host: dcom server pro...
service host: plug and play
local security authority process...
windows start-up Application
Client Server Runtime Process
Windows Session Manager

Finally thats everything running minus 2 lines that i cannot read dues to camera been out of focus. The items are Steam Related
 
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#25
ive got MSI afterburning running. Its very hard to pick the exact point it happens but i do have a report and unsure how to share it. I notice the clock speeds all dropped at point of choppyness and so did the temp. ive got a list of all programs running but unfortunately when up loaded it decreases quality so im going to write them all down now. Theres allot!
Screenshots, dude, screenshots ;)

But on a serious note, MSI Afterburner has hardware monitor part with graphs for monitored measurements. Might be docked at the right or bottom of the Afterburner main window. There is a detach button to make that hardware monitor part into a separate window that you can make bigger to see more graphs at once. I would make sure to have (or add in Settings > Monitoring) graphs on what I listed in my previous post. These graphs have a bit of history, like 10 minutes by default.

Once this happens, you should be able to glance at these graphs and visually see what changed. From what you are describing there should be an easily noticeable change somewhere.