AGP, PCI-E, PCI? Differences?

[RadeonProVega]

I am going to pick up a used 8500GT for the PCI-E so I can run a direct comparison against the PCI8500GT and my sawed off HD4350 and post some numbers. Might take a while though, still plenty of projects, university projects, work projects and what not to come first...

Not sure if you are serious or not, but you don't have to go through the trouble. I already made up my mind on what 2 pcie cards i am going to get from best buy.

^tru dat
But if money isn't the issue i don't understand why you don't build a better rig? it would provide u much more performance for your dollar.

Because i just don't feel like doing it thats why. Do i have to do what everyone else is doing?
No. You know some people like to smoke and drink, you know what? I don't and i never will. Some people like to collect cars, i don't. See, my point.

And although I know it won't do any good, I'll continue to argue your logic, b/c well, I must. Your last statement doesn't make much sense as you have gone through 3-4 rigs in your time here. Know how many I've had in that time? 1. It hasn't changed a bit since your join date (well, I might have added new ram and I got a new case but you get the point). I consistently oc it 24/7 at what is in my specs, and have oc'd it more at other times. It's coming up on a year and a half w/ this rig and oc'ing it and guess what, no problems what so ever and it's played games great all the while. Oc'ing is not the devils work, nor is buying online. My rig has and will continue to last longer than any average pre-built lifespan b/c I take the time to learn about what I'm doing and went w/ the best options. We (or perhaps I) aren't (am not) trying to get you to destroy your rig so we can laugh at you (although it would be funny ), we're trying to help you get the most out of your computer.

This is my second rig if you didn't know. That Pentium III which i don't have anymore, is still working btw. So i am on my second rig thats it. I am buying my secondary rig tho, later this year, this model:

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668233.php

Plan to turn it into a pci gamer rig, with windows 2000 and it will be meant for older games / games that does not work on Vista.


a_ump:You think i care about LCD/running games at high resolutions with AAX8 and getting 60 frames and up? No i don't. You know what type of monitor i am running with my new rig?

A $15 dollar thrift store 17inch monitor from 2003. Thats how i am gaming in 2009 baby!

Anyways, i am very happy with my new rig. DMC4 at 1280x960 high to very high, 20-30, L4D 1280x960 high to very high no AA, 17-29 on my 2400HD and 20-40 on my 8400GS, this is all PCI cards btw. Also, early today i was playing 2 older games which came out in 2006, always had trouble running them on my Pentium III, use to get 15-20fps. Now i get 80-244 frames. lol So believe me, i am very very happy with my computer

 

[hat]

You... can't be... serious... pairing PCI card with that (otherwise kickass) Core 2 Quad based gateway? If you're worried about video cards not being compatable with older games, guess what, my 9800gt ran anything from Crysis to Quake. I would buy that computer, put a beefy video card in there and make your current rig your secondary rig and use THAT for old games. It just doesn't make sense to run Crysis on a single core Athlon and then turn around and play Quake 3 on a Core 2 Quad machine... that's like firing at an enemy tank with a .22 pistol whilist using the SRAW on enemy soldiers.

 

[farlex85]

This is my second rig if you didn't know. That Pentium III which i don't have anymore, is still working btw. So i am on my second rig thats it. I am buying my secondary rig tho, later this year, this model:

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668233.php

Plan to turn it into a pci gamer rig, with windows 2000 and it will be meant for older games / games that does not work on Vista.


a_ump:You think i care about LCD/running games at high resolutions with AAX8 and getting 60 frames and up? No i don't. You know what type of monitor i am running with my new rig?

A $15 dollar thrift store 17inch monitor from 2003. Thats how i am gaming in 2009 baby!

Anyways, i am very happy with my new rig. DMC4 at 1280x960 high to very high, 20-30, L4D 1280x960 high to very high no AA, 17-29 on my 2400HD and 20-40 on my 8400GS, this is all PCI cards btw. Also, early today i was playing 2 older games which came out in 2006, always had trouble running them on my Pentium III, use to get 15-20fps. Now i get 80-244 frames. lol So believe me, i am very very happy with my computer

Could've sworn you had a celeron D rig, where did that go? That makes 3 by my count. You sure you don't drink? If your happy that's fine, whatever works for ya great. Your logic is terrible though, and I am intrinsically obligated to continue to point this out to you. For instance, the bold statements show a direct contradiction in your own wishes. Your being rebellious for no reason and depriving yourself of what you want. Accept the knowledge, it's good.....

 

[Yukikaze]

Not sure if you are serious or not, but you don't have to go through the trouble. I already made up my mind on what 2 pcie cards i am going to get from best buy.

It is not only your mind that needs making up, though. There is a lack of such a comparison on the net and it is of interest to me as well. Besides, a 2nd hand 8500GT would cost next to nothing.

 

[RadeonProVega]

Could've sworn you had a celeron D rig

Um yea i did, for about a month and it blew up, well the PSU anyway. But that really don't count, the rig was already damage when i bought it, and it was only 40 bucks. The power socket was coming apart when i bought it. As i was taking out the power plug from the PSU, sparks flew and the thing slightly blew apart. I only bought it because it was only well 40 dollars. So really i had success with prebuilt rigs, the pentium III, now i am using my AMD, and soon i will be using both my amd and quad core.

If your happy that's fine, whatever works for ya great. Your logic is terrible though, and I am intrinsically obligated to continue to point this out to you. For instance, the bold statements show a direct contradiction in your own wishes. Your being rebellious for no reason and depriving yourself of what you want. Accept the knowledge, it's good.....

Well i was just saying i don't strive for the best performance in gaming. But i don't mind it either, thats why i said in most of my older games that ran terrible on my Pentium, i now get well above 100 fps in them, sometimes 240. I am happy with pretty much any type of performance, 20-30 is fine for me.

You... can't be... serious... pairing PCI card with that (otherwise kickass) Core 2 Quad based gateway? If you're worried about video cards not being compatable with older games, guess what, my 9800gt ran anything from Crysis to Quake. I would buy that computer, put a beefy video card in there and make your current rig your secondary rig and use THAT for old games. It just doesn't make sense to run Crysis on a single core Athlon and then turn around and play Quake 3 on a Core 2 Quad machine... that's like firing at an enemy tank with a .22 pistol whilist using the SRAW on enemy soldiers.

Yea i know it sounds backwards, i was saying to myself this will be interesting. So i said, hmm buy a quad core and make it into a power PCI gaming rig and install windows 2000 on it and only use it for my older games or games that don't work with Vista, should be fun

Btw, running older games with new cards is not the problem, its the OS. Windows 2000 is the best OS for running older games.

 

[Yukikaze]

Yea i know it sounds backwards, i was saying to myself this will be interesting. So i said, hmm buy a quad core and make it into a power PCI gaming rig and install windows 2000 on it and only use it for my older games or games that don't work with Vista, should be fun

Holy crap....mate: "power", "pci" and "gaming" do not belong in the same sentence, I think we established this already.

This is a complete and utter waste of processing power (And money! Why does a rig running Windows 2000 would need a Quad Core ? You gain nothing and waste money).

Just reverse the roles of your rigs and be done with it. The Athlon will do great along with your love for PCI cards for running older things, and the Core 2 Quad will do a great job (When paired with a good video card) in modern and tomorrow's titles.

 

[hat]

U2konline, next time you buy a computer please just send the money to me, I need a Mosin Nagant and 440 rounds of 7.62x54R, should cost around a total of $200.

 

[Yukikaze]

U2konline, next time you buy a computer please just send the money to me, I need a Mosin Nagant and 440 rounds of 7.62x54R, should cost around a total of $200.

This is totally siggable.

 

[hat]

Heh. Well, I *am* getting a Mosin Nagant some time in June, this should cost abput $100. But you can't use a gun without ammo so I need some 7.62x54R, my uncle looked it up but all he saw were huge amounts. 440 rounds for $90 is dirt cheap but once I buy that rifle, I won't have enough money left to get the ammo for it unless I buy a small amount.

 

[Yukikaze]

Heh. Well, I *am* getting a Mosin Nagant some time in June, this should cost abput $100. But you can't use a gun without ammo so I need some 7.62x54R, my uncle looked it up but all he saw were huge amounts. 440 rounds for $90 is dirt cheap but once I buy that rifle, I won't have enough money left to get the ammo for it unless I buy a small amount.

I had little doubt you really wanted the rifle, I just totally agree with the "better monetary investment" thing you're referring to...

 

[TheMailMan78]

Yes it does, ask flyordie

Nope. It sure doesn't. Ask Wizz. Link

 

[KainXS]

its like getting a getting a Lamborghini and sticking a shiet transmission in it and flattening the tires and driving like that, he always says the most awesome things dosen't he, a quad core with a pci card,

wtf

wtf

Quad core don't even work properly with 2000, it only will see 2 cores,


troll

 

[TheMailMan78]

Troll to the core man. You guys just keep feeding him too.