AMD Announces Ryzen PRO Desktop Processors

[Deleted member 172152]

So this could be B2 stepping models that was leaked recently.

Maybe, but ryzen pro just has a coprocessor for safety and reliability or something. That alone is enough to make ryzen pro a lower end xeon competitor.

Ryzen 3 is looking pretty good, btw! I know many people with very limited budgets that have bought a 1050 ti for example thst still run really old AMD APU's and cpu's. A g4560 isn't really adequate for anythibg other than gaming and web surfing, so they want at least a 4-core and most prefer buying new. At the right price with the right mobo, ryzen 3 is a pretty sweet deal for those people! Hopefully the 1200 is less than a 100 euros and the 1300 max 110. The budget gamers often deserve a decent upgrade the most.

 

[R-T-B]

Maybe, but ryzen pro just has a coprocessor for safety and reliability or something. That alone is enough to make ryzen pro a lower end xeon competitor.

All Ryzen CPUs have said coprocessor, I think it comes down to what features are enabled on it.

 

[Camm]

vPro comparison features are nice, but a little disappointed to see no documentation on whether ECC will be officially supported under the Pro line.

Also, Jesus f****** Christ the amount of comments above of people not bothering to read what these actually are and just cruising down to the comments section to bitch.

Sidenote; I'll forgive it on the R5 and R7, but those R3's, the TCO on those looks flawed, as you would have to factor in a GPU on top.

 

[notb]

Wow... disaster.
I expected the AMD Pro lineup to be APUs.
Will they ever make the APU? I'm pretty sure selling a Ryzen + RX550 gives more profit margin.

I just can't see simple office desktops using dGPU. Pretty much no one will choose these over Intel i3/i5.
So what are these CPUs for? Because if AMD aims for high-end workstations, then anything below R7 is pretty pointless in this lineup.

 

[Deleted member 172152]

Wow... disaster.
I expected the AMD Pro lineup to be APUs.
Will they ever make the APU? I'm pretty sure selling a Ryzen + RX550 gives more profit margin.

I just can't see simple office desktops using dGPU. Pretty much no one will choose these over Intel i3/i5.
So what are these CPUs for? Because if AMD aims for high-end workstations, then anything below R7 is pretty pointless in this lineup.

APU's were later. Ryzen 3 isn't meant for basic desktop use anyway. It's meant for low-end gaming pc's/workstations that need more than a simple iGPU.

 

[Chaitanya]

So basically onslaught on Intel's entry level Xeons.

 

[bug]

vPro comparison features are nice, but a little disappointed to see no documentation on whether ECC will be officially supported under the Pro line.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ws/75030-ecc-memory-amds-ryzen-deep-dive.html

Also, see what Anandtech has to say about it (hint: it's there).

 

[Bones]

So this could be B2 stepping models that was leaked recently.

I'd have to say it's just the Ryzen version of AM3 "B" CPUs like the B22 or B93 for example with "Pro" being the thing that says it's a business class CPU.....

However with the new stepping coming up they would have it based on the projected release date of these.

 

[_JP_]

I don't see what's "pro" about these. They look like relabeled Ryzens.

So what does the "PRO" actually add from the regular?

WTF are these? They are the same processors. I hate AMD marketing sometimes... actually all the time.

They still don't have IGP. I'm pretty sure work machines need a IGP like Intel ones do.

And those screaming "REBRAND!"....please, this is the counter to Intel's "V-PRO" line.
So yes, the difference are added business features, NOT MEANT for the consumer market.
Geez...

EDIT: These Ryzens are what you're supposed to find in the ThinkCentre, Optiplex, Elitedesk/Proliant, so on...

 

[bug]

And those screaming "REBRAND!"....please, this is the counter to Intel's "V-PRO" line.
So yes, the difference are added business features, NOT MEANT for the consumer market.
Geez...

EDIT: These Ryzens are what you're supposed to find in the ThinkCentre, Optiplex, Elitedesk/Proliant, so on...

Intel doesn't have vPro CPUs. You pair any CPU of theirs with a business-oriented motherboard and that's it.
Not saying what AMD is doing is wrong, just that, with the data available from this article, it seemed a little weird.

 

[_JP_]

Intel doesn't have vPro CPUs. You pair any CPU of theirs with a business-oriented motherboard and that's it.
Not saying what AMD is doing is wrong, just that, with the data available from this article, it seemed a little weird.

vPro is a platform. So will this Ryzen PRO be. Just so happens Ryzen is also the codename of the CPU.
I know the added features aren't solely on the CPU, if any. (In Intel's case, VT-d)
No need to start a discussion about brandings.

 

[bug]

vPro is a platform. So will this Ryzen PRO be. Just so happens Ryzen is also the codename of the CPU.
I know the added features aren't solely on the CPU, if any. (In Intel's case, VT-d)
No need to start a discussion about brandings.

AMD Announces Ryzen PRO Desktop Processors

See where you got it wrong?

Edit: There will be a platform, yes, but also a dedicated line of CPUs.

 

[notb]

APU's were later. Ryzen 3 isn't meant for basic desktop use anyway. It's meant for low-end gaming pc's/workstations that need more than a simple iGPU.

This is a Pro lineup - it's not designed for nor marketed towards gamers.
I actually doubt PRO CPUs will be available in stores. It might just be for OEMs.

Sure, they'll work in powerful workstations (especially R7), but most will end up in typical office desktops - running simple Excel sheets.

As for lack of IGP: OEMs can use the announced low-end GPUs (Radeon 500-540) and simply put them on in-house motherboards (like everyone did a decade ago), but it still seems like a step-back. IGPs have a few advantages (that's why the industry switched).

 

[Deleted member 172152]

This is a Pro lineup - it's not designed for nor marketed towards gamers.
I actually doubt PRO CPUs will be available in stores. It might just be for OEMs.

Sure, they'll work in powerful workstations (especially R7), but most will end up in typical office desktops - running simple Excel sheets.

As for lack of IGP: OEMs can use the announced low-end GPUs (Radeon 500-540) and simply put them on in-house motherboards (like everyone did a decade ago), but it still seems like a step-back. IGPs have a few advantages (that's why the industry switched).

I got off-topic slightly with ryzen 3's leaked specs (by AMD).

 

[bug]

This is a Pro lineup - it's not designed for nor marketed towards gamers.
I actually doubt PRO CPUs will be available in stores. It might just be for OEMs.

Sure, they'll work in powerful workstations (especially R7), but most will end up in typical office desktops - running simple Excel sheets.

As for lack of IGP: OEMs can use the announced low-end GPUs (Radeon 500-540) and simply put them on in-house motherboards (like everyone did a decade ago), but it still seems like a step-back. IGPs have a few advantages (that's why the industry switched).

True. As much as I hate IGPs, when I built a system for my wife's work, she couldn't believe it all fit into a tiny mITX case. Not having to shove a dedicated GPU in there sure helped. I mean, you can do it with discrete video card, too, but it messes with cable routing and air flow in a typical case.

 

[_JP_]

See where you got it wrong?

Edit: There will be a platform, yes, but also a dedicated line of CPUs.

Still business features platform, whatever

 

[notb]

Intel doesn't have vPro CPUs. You pair any CPU of theirs with a business-oriented motherboard and that's it.

Actually that's not true. Only some CPUs support full vPro functionality. It's shown in Intel ARK specs.

Either way, as you've said, it is a platform: you need a Q-series chipset (which is a standard issue in OEM business desktops).

That said, Intel's solution is available in retail. Basically everyone can pair a Q270 motherboard with an i5-7500 and setup vPro features.
AMD has a history with keeping "PRO" products just for OEMs (most recently: Bristol Ridge APU).

Not saying what AMD is doing is wrong, just that, with the data available from this article, it seemed a little weird.

I think they're doing the best thing since they announced Ryzen. They need a Zen-based "pro" platform to get some market share in business solutions, but I though they'll build it around an APU - not CPU.
If this platform will depend on full size GPU card, it just won't sell. But if OEM manufacturers provide a workaround (by putting GPU on mobo or making tiny GPU cards) there is hope for AMD fans.

 

[bug]

Actually that's not true. Only some CPUs support full vPro functionality. It's shown in Intel ARK specs.

Technically true, but afaik only support for VT-d is missing from unlocked CPUs that prevents them from being part of vPro. But I'm going to stop here because I feel I'm just nitpicking.

 

[OneCool]

"disruptive"...not sure why every presentation in 2017 needs to include that word. In fact anymore when I see that word in a presentation I assume BS.

Agreed!