AMD Bulldozer benched

[Fatal]

AMD BULLDOZER benched maybe.
Not sure if any one has seen this but here ya go. Found this on HWBOT
http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27276

wPrime v2.04 32M = 5.866
Super PI = 15.412s
CINEBENCH R11.5 64bit = 7.86
CINEBENCH R10 64bit = 27678 CB-CPU

 

[_JP_]

As far as I can tell, those could be tests made with 8-core opteron CPUs, print-screened and then pasted to another pc with a 990FX chipset, but running any AM3 cpu.
Because CPU-Z doesn't support entirely (I think) all bulldozer processors, it would be sort of safe to show the CPU tab, while still respecting the NDA (since the program would be able to identify the CPU correctly).

 

[Fatal]

As far as I can tell, those could be tests made with 8-core opteron CPUs, print-screened and then pasted to another pc with a 990FX chipset, but running any AM3 cpu.
Because CPU-Z doesn't support entirely (I think) all bulldozer processors, it would be sort of safe to show the CPU tab, while still respecting the NDA (since the program would be able to identify the CPU correctly).

Yeah could be I was just searching around on hwbot and saw that who knows.

 

[Rapidfire48]

Until they officially release the chip why waste the space?

 

[seronx]

Since, we are talking about Bulldozer being benched

Lets talk about the prominent B0 rumor

This is the one most people have been looking at WCCFtech went over it most other places went over it

In the FX E3 news topic we went over it

Well from Chiphell where the first "B0" benchmarks come from

AMD Bulldozer has

16MB of L2
8MB of L3
Doesn't do SSSE3, SSE4.1/4.2, or AVX/SSE5

Then in the CPU-Z

We see the Southbridge says SB850

on a 990FX board that is impossible since 990FX is paired with SB950

 

[_JP_]

Then in the CPU-Z

We see the Southbridge says SB850

on a 990FX board that is impossible since 990FX is paired with SB950

Oh man, I totally missed that. Nice find!

 

[seronx]

Oh man, I totally missed that. Nice find!

I can tell you right now

if SB i7 2600K does 5pts in R11.5 and does 15s in SuperPi 4s in wPrime 32M

Do to the properties of CMT and of the Flex FPU

then AMD FX will do 10pts in R11.5 and will do 7.5s in SuperPi 2s in wPrime 32M

Clocks have to be equal though

These numbers only work in Cinebench R11.5(Once R12 or R11.6 with AVX support comes out the i7 should score the same as the FX) and SuperPi and wPrime

 

[Nesters]

Clocks have to be equal though

You know that different architectures doesn't have same IPC count, right?

 

[seronx]

You know that different architectures doesn't have same IPC count, right?

They may be the different architectures but they output the same IPC @ 256bit

AMD FX in 128 bit and legacy is 2x faster than the i7 SB-E in 128 bit and legacy



To go in depth about IPC it is a weird story

2 thread apps will use 4 ALUs for AMD and 3 ALUs for Intel
while in 1 thread apps 2 ALUs for AMD and 1 ALU for Intel

and somehow this comes out even in IPC

 

[seronx]

I can clearly tell that AMD is better because tilldeath used way more exclamation points.

Try arguing with that logic.

Less is more

You might be getting a quad-core from intel but you can damn well expect to get 8 threads and be able to overclock to 5.2GHz on a H80/H100 setup and absolutely destroy

i7 Sandy Bridge 2600K/2500K = 216 mm² <-- die size
AMD Bulldozer FX-8110/8130P = ~294 mm² <-- die size

Like come on AMD yeesh

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Less is more

You might be getting a quad-core from intel but you can damn well expect to get 8 threads and be able to overclock to 5.2GHz on a H80/H100 setup and absolutely destroy

i7 Sandy Bridge 2600K/2500K = 216 mm² <-- die size
AMD Bulldozer FX-8110/8130P = ~294 mm² <-- die size

Like come on AMD yeesh

What does die size have to do with exclamation points?

 

[Fatal]

Less is more

You might be getting a quad-core from intel but you can damn well expect to get 8 threads and be able to overclock to 5.2GHz on a H80/H100 setup and absolutely destroy

i7 Sandy Bridge 2600K/2500K = 216 mm² <-- die size
AMD Bulldozer FX-8110/8130P = ~294 mm² <-- die size

Like come on AMD yeesh

Have you seen any thing on any new coolers for bulldozer? I guess you couldn't use old stuff to mount on it.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Have you seen any thing on any new coolers for bulldozer? I guess you couldn't use old stuff to mount on it.

Actually, you should be able to use your old coolers. The socket design is the same.

 

[Fatal]

Cool thanks I just saw how the chips are not square and wondered about that.

 

[Funtoss]

WOW, those results looks pretty good, how about the price??

 

[Damn_Smooth]

WOW, those results looks pretty good, how about the price??

This is the latest rumored price list as far as I know.

 

[Nesters]

That's Llano pricelist

but there's also rumored Bulldozer price list which suggests that 8-core will cost around ~$300.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

That's Llano pricelist

but there's also rumored Bulldozer price list which suggests that 8-core will cost around ~$300.

It's Bulldozer and Llano. Bulldozer are the last 4 on the chart

 

[Nesters]

I guess i didn't get enough sleep.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

I guess i didn't get enough sleep.

It happens to the best of us.

 

[Fatal]

If those are the prices things will be sweet lol. Looks like I will build a third rig!

 

[zpnq]

We see the Southbridge says SB850

on a 990FX board that is impossible since 990FX is paired with SB950

afaik the sb850 and 950 are the same piece of silicon nothing is changed. cpuz probably doesn't know the difference.


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...-sabertooth-990fx-am3-motherboard-review.html

"It is paired with a 950 Southbridge which is nothing more than a rebadged SB850 chip"


from the ASUS sabertooth 990fx owners club thread over at overclock.net

"Can anyone go into their CPUZ and under the mainboard tab see if it says SB850 or SB950? A couple of us with CHVs are hoping that it's just a bad readout and will be fixed later. It's giving us SB850."

CPU-Z has not updated yet they will there mite even be a new version if so post link for rep+


http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/1035333-asus-sabertooth-990fx-owners-club-13.html

 

[Damn_Smooth]

afaik the sb850 and 950 are the same piece of silicon nothing is changed. cpuz probably doesn't know the difference.


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...-sabertooth-990fx-am3-motherboard-review.html

"It is paired with a 950 Southbridge which is nothing more than a rebadged SB850 chip"


from the ASUS sabertooth 990fx owners club thread over at overclock.net

"Can anyone go into their CPUZ and under the mainboard tab see if it says SB850 or SB950? A couple of us with CHVs are hoping that it's just a bad readout and will be fixed later. It's giving us SB850."

CPU-Z has not updated yet they will there mite even be a new version if so post link for rep+


http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/1035333-asus-sabertooth-990fx-owners-club-13.html

Even though I still wouldn't go so far as to call this real, that is a nice find.

 

[seronx]

950 has 1 Watt over 850

that 1 watt is because the higher internal FSB

It will show SB850 with a K10
and
It will show SB950 with a Bulldozer

 

[theeldest]

950 has 1 Watt over 850

that 1 watt is because the higher internal FSB

It will show SB850 with a K10
and
It will show SB950 with a Bulldozer

Also, the 950 studied hard, took the test, and got it's license for SLI.