AMD Caught Cheating with Radeon Drivers

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Review Websites Discover AMD Driver Reduces Image Quality

PC gaming enthusiasts understand image quality (IQ) is a critical part of the PC gaming experience. They frequently upgrade their GPUs to play the latest games at high frame rates, while also dialing up the display resolution and graphical IQ effects to make their games both look and play great. Image quality is important, and if it were not important, we'd all be playing at 10x7 with no AA!

Important Benchmarking Issues and Questionable Optimizations
We are writing this blog post to bring broader attention to some very important image quality findings uncovered recently by top technology Web sites including ComputerBase, PC Games Hardware, Tweak PC, and 3DCenter.org. They all found that changes introduced in AMD's Catalyst 10.10 default driver settings caused an increase in performance and a decrease in image quality. These changes in AMD's default settings do not permit a fair apples-to-apples comparison to NVIDIA default driver settings. NVIDIA GPUs provide higher image quality at default driver settings, which means comparative AMD vs. NVIDIA testing methods need to be adjusted to compensate for the image quality differences.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12845&Itemid=47

 

[Steve-007UK]

So because AMD changed a setting so its lower in the new drivers, They class it as cheating? It's a bloody 2 sec job to set it back to max. Grow up nvidia.

 

[DrPepper]

Seems like an AMD bashing site.

Alot of people think that performance can be improved through magic code but that isn't always the case if the most efficient code is used in the first place. If more performance is needed of course comprimising image quality has to be done.

 

[Deleted member 74752]

I saw no bashing in the report. The truth does hurt at times...

 

[Black Panther]

Note who is the author of that article...

 

[Deleted member 74752]

Note the footnotes.

 

[Fourstaff]

Note who is the author of that article...

Its true that Nvidia is teh author, but I still think we get an independent reviewer to judge this *hint*W1zzard*hint*

 

[streetfighter 2]

Note who is the author of that article...

Written by NVIDIA - Nick Stam

EDITOR'S NOTE: This is a disturbing article, and the sources here are critical for legitimacy. NVIDIA is a direct competitor to AMD and is the author of this article, which lead some readers to ignore the message. However, it was several independent review website's that first brought this issue to the forefront, and proved it exists. I personally trust these websites, particularly 3DCenter.org, and have found them to be unbiased over the years.

Benchmark Reviews can confirm that issues with filtering still exist, and pointed this out in our Radeon HD 6850 and Radeon HD 6870 launch articles. We also made it public that certain AMD partners were sending 'juiced' video card samples to reviews sites, ours included, with details published in our 1120-Core "Fixed" Radeon HD 6850 Review Samples Shipped to Media article. So could this be AMDs last ditch effort to compete with NVIDIA by manipulating performance?

Also while we're at it Microsoft may or may not be guilty of a similar thing:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...d-benchmarks-is-ie9-cheating-at-sunspider.ars

Not that I care, it's all malarkey to me.

 

[Deleted member 74752]

Anything Microsoft does has little impact on me. Video card manufacturer's on the other hand...

I have every OS known to mankind at my disposal and choose whatever is best for what I am doing atm. I am not biased one way or another between Nvidia or ATI as I own plenty of each. I do so hate liars tho...

 

[Paintface]

if nvidia only spend their resources making better cards they wouldnt have to bash AMD

 

[Over_Lord]

nVidia - The way it's meant to be WTFed

 

[newtekie1]

Both do it, it has been talked about time and time again here. Nothing new to see here, move along.

 

[micropage7]

i dunno whats going on today, it said AMD 'cheating', Nvidia does 'bla bla bla' or both of them 'cheating'. Its just old song on new record, if they are really good why dont they show off? Than pointing the competitor like that. If any of them cheating sooner or later it will be caught, its kinda psychologic war in order to confuse the market so they could take advantage of that, maybe the one who blows up the issue cheat too, who knows?

 

[Black Panther]

Both do it, it has been talked about time and time again here. Nothing new to see here, move along.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

As already stated in a very similar thread

Considering both companies occasionally accuse each other, and this isn't the first time it happened, this thread will serve no constructive purpose at all.