AMD E2-9000e or Intel Celeron N3350

[Thefumigator]

Gonna stick with higher performance, lower core count options. I think they'll gonna last for longer than slower but more cores. AMD really changed the game in this regard with Stoney Ridge, tweaking old Bulldozer architecture in a whole different way, making them totally comparable with Intel offerings. Even so much that despite 28nm node, they seem to use same TDP as Intel while actually even performing better sometimes. Which is quite an achievement. It's just hard to dismiss the "14nm" is smaller and newer, it must be better "mind trick".

I would personally go for AMD in this case, 10w TDP is quite impressive. the E2-9000e beats both the Athlon X2 and E450 by a large margin. The R2 radeon iGPU should be enough even for playing 4K videos (but I migh be wrong on this one). Look, my father has a low end llano laptop and the SSD I installed last year made the whole system magically new again.

 

[FYFI13]

Testing Youtube, CPU is pegged at 100% load and 1080p60 video plays perfectly smoothly. 1440p and 4K do lag terribly. But I don't need more than 1080p anyway.

Since you're using Windows 10, try Youtube in 4k on MS Edge Runs perfectly smooth on Celeron N2820, ~30% CPU load.

 

[RejZoR]

How is with VP9 decoding? I know Intel supports it through QuickSync. What about A9-9420 in particular? Or the E2-9000e? It just says they support UVD, but I've dropped a bit out of loop with Radeons after owning GeForce for a while now...

 

[Thefumigator]

How is with VP9 decoding? I know Intel supports it through QuickSync. What about A9-9420 in particular? Or the E2-9000e? It just says they support UVD, but I've dropped a bit out of loop with Radeons after owning GeForce for a while now...

Radeons do decoding, but only vega and vega based apus do encoding

 

[RejZoR]

I only need decoding on this system. H.264 and H.265 maybe, here and there. But I have a 12 thread monster just 20m away so I'm not gonna torture it much with that...

 

[eidairaman1]

As you said the cely lacks instructions, why bother

 

[RejZoR]

Checked the SSD in that one and it's indeed a Sandisk Z400. Checking Passmark scores and it's positioned higher than Crucial M4 which I have now. Or is that just in synthetics...

If it's DRAM-less SSD, how does it cache commands? In system RAM till it's written?

 

[newtekie1]

If it's DRAM-less SSD, how does it cache commands? In system RAM till it's written?

It doesn't, it writes directly to the NAND, which is why write speeds on DRAM-less SSDs are so terrible. Plus the data map is also on the NAND instead of stored in the DRAM, which makes things even slower. Random writes, which is what Windows Updates are, are particularly slow. Like, sometimes no faster than HDDs slow...

 

[RejZoR]

I don't think it's gonna be an issue regardless. If it's faster than HDD or at worst the same, I'm fine with it. Remember, this will be very low usage system. At worst, I can still drop in a cheap Crucial BX300 which has a superb performance for the price. At 55€, it's almost as fast as 850 Evo.

 

[RejZoR]

Any idea why A9-9420 shows as if it has 2 graphic processors? One is Radeon R5 and the other is Radeon 530. I'm a bit confused why it shows this as 2 separate devices. Even Radeon CP is showing global settings for R5 and 530 as 2 separate GPU's. The laptop in question is not suppose to have a discrete graphics chip... I'm confused now...

 

[newtekie1]

What laptop did you get specifically?

What does GPU-Z show?

 

[Flaky]

Then you have two gpus. I bet the dedicated one is an ancient gcn 1.0 chip. Would be good to see the gpu-z readout tho.

That's the problem AMD has with almost every OEM regarding almost every new platform.
Even though the chips are decent, the laptops with them have braindead configurations.

 

[RejZoR]

Ok, I've decided to pull a trigger on the following laptop (especially in the wake of Intel security flaws where I scrapped the Celerons as an option)...

HP laptop
AMD A9-9420 3.6 GHz Dual Core APU (with R5 graphics)
4GB RAM
256GB SSD
1080p SVA display
Windows 10 Home

Total with expedition delivery, 410€. All things considered, it's a very good value I think and it should last me for a while. I couldn't find any 1080p laptops for such price in my country at all. And I've tested the A9-9420, the thing is freaking fast even though it's just a dual core. For 50€ less I'd get that E2-9000e which is vastly slower and with half the SSD capacity. So I think I made a right decision.

 

[Recca29]

Ok, I've decided to pull a trigger on the following laptop (especially in the wake of Intel security flaws where I scrapped the Celerons as an option)...

HP laptop
AMD A9-9420 3.6 GHz Dual Core APU (with R5 graphics)
4GB RAM
256GB SSD
1080p SVA display
Windows 10 Home

Total with expedition delivery, 410€. All things considered, it's a very good value I think and it should last me for a while. I couldn't find any 1080p laptops for such price in my country at all. And I've tested the A9-9420, the thing is freaking fast even though it's just a dual core. For 50€ less I'd get that E2-9000e which is vastly slower and with half the SSD capacity. So I think I made a right decision.

Congrats on you new laptop.
Just a heads-up, i am not sure if you will have an issue with the latest Radeon drivers but my 2 laptops with AMD APUs had issues with them.

 

[RejZoR]

I think I was also lucky with the SSD. It's not Sandisk Z400 in this laptop. It's a 256GB Samsung SSD. It still seems to be some sort of OEM model, but at least on quick benchmarks I've seen online, it looks like it's about as fast as Samsung 850 Evo.

Exact model is: SAMSUNG MZNLN256HMHQ-000H1

Anyone has any info on it? Does this one have onboard DRAM? Is this model a M.2 SATA one? On paper, it's WAY faster than Sandisk Z400 and it also seems to behave that way. The thing is pretty darn fast. Looks like I won't have to swap it with aftermarket one after all. Was already prepared to sell it and buy a cheap proven stand alone drive...

 

[newtekie1]

Does this one have onboard DRAM?

Yes, the Samsung is not DRAMless.

Is this model a M.2 SATA one?

It is an M.2 but it is SATA based. So it won't be any faster than a 2.5" SATA drive.

 

[RejZoR]

I don't need anything more than SATA. It's important that it has SSD. That's all.

 

[silentbogo]

Anyone has any info on it? Does this one have onboard DRAM? Is this model a M.2 SATA one? On paper, it's WAY faster than Sandisk Z400 and it also seems to behave that way. The thing is pretty darn fast. Looks like I won't have to swap it with aftermarket one after all. Was already prepared to sell it and buy a cheap proven stand alone drive...

It's Samsung PM871a - a low-cost version of 850EVO, also uses TLC V-NAND. Specs and speed is pretty much identical in every aspect. I'd say it's not bad at all.

 

[RejZoR]

God damn it, it just has to be me again... Everything works great, exept "i" key. You have to slam it perfectly 90° otherwise it just doesn't register it. Aaargh. Totally not in the mood for sending it back to Germany. Took of the key and everything seems fine, like other keys. But it just doesn't register key press correctly. Need to figure out why the hell this is happening...