AMD Outs Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora Game Bundle with Processors and Graphics Cards

[gurusmi]

Last answer, the more I read what you are writing, the more I realise that you are making a lot of assumptions...

So according to you, AMD is making favors to mind factory since they had the longest and biggest price drop of every retailer? And Black friday is only a thing because it just so happens that many products from different industries that are not related happened to have a price drop from the suppliers at the same time?

I've read an article about the "french days" (french version of black friday) the CEOs said that it was a purely strategic move to counter amazon prime days and black Fridays of Americans brands doing direct sales. The sales period is choose based on social clues that shows that people would be more inclined to spend money at said period. In 2018 the French days happened during the world cup. They didn't wait for the starts to align and have Samsung, Sony and AMD to make a big price cut at the same time that would only last 5 days. (The french days always last 5 days).

Business isn't so black and white. Some industries have enough leeway in their margins to afford strategic sales or price cuts. Selling with a lower margin is better than not selling at all. Remember that time where microcenter decided to give away ram with zen 4 when bought in store ? So what, does that means that AMD decided to make a price cut for microcenter only ? A very specific 189,99$ price cut on every ryzen 7 and 9 cpu that happened to be on the shelves of every microcenter store, but not for the online stock ? What reasoning would you give for the extra 20$ off if you buy a specific AM5 motherboard in store at the same time ? ( the 20$ off isn't available if you only buy a motherboard)

1. I was working a couple of time at the (at that time) biggest distributor (Importer) for computer parts within germany (Microtronica). At that time there have been direct contracts i.e. for Intel and Samsung my two collegues worked at. I have been that guy buing i.e. Harddisks so that they can be sold by the sales. I made the prices those HDD where sold in germany. All over i was teken care of around (let's say) 10.000 Products. I made the german prices and with that the margins for all of those articles. I also know a bit about mixed calculation etc. And with that i know how those prices are calculated. Ooops. Business is mainly black and white. Either one makes money or he's getting bankruptcy.

2. I didn't say that anybody did a favor to a dealer. I said that that dealer bought CPUs/GPUs when they where available at a lower price. So mind factory was able to push through that reduced price. If the dealer didn't offer those GPUs/CPUs for that low price again they also didn't got it again by their distributor (AMD or an importer). Others haven't gotten that CPU that cheap so they weren't able to participate at those lower prices. That's not an assumptiuon but a fact.

3. I don't care about micro center. They are not a valid seller within germany. But to answer your examples: It could be i.e. a mixed calculation. Both parties selling the Ram and the CPU/Mainboard(???) reduce their prices and a bit is provided by the dealership. People often get into a shop and buy more than they planned. But it is a fact that all of the businesses have their revenues by that offer. None of the businesses looses even one cent.

4. I already got my mainboard (Asus ProArt X670e). Aside a lot to do (constructing and printing 3D Parts) i have only a few things to buy (CPU 7590x /RAM 96gb 6000CL30/SSD's 2*2TB PCIe 4.0x4/5.0x4/GPU 6950x). Except the GPU Cooler (Watercool Heatkiller) everything around is bought. I paid for all that stuff already 3.500€. I buy my stuff for a build always according to a plan. Starting at the outter and focussing on the main parts at the end. First the time consuming parts and at lasrt the fast ones. It could happen that I have to buy a larger PSU (>1kW) and/or 4 coolers incl. the connectors for the SSD's and/or 2 coolers connectors for the RAM bars. So no. I won't buy a new mainboard for my 7950x rig. I also don't buy things not available in my township in a store as i'm sitting in an electrical wheelchair 24/7. To get to the next store/mall I would need at least 3 days to get there and back. That are around 50km one way.

If you imagine that the world would be a back you sit on. Then the almost brown spot of the back is the place i live. Here we don't have a delivery for dishes or even from a grocery/supermarket. That is btw. in the middle of western germany!

Just because your arguments have been proven wrong does not mean you should not be in the conversation. Discussion is meant to reveal enlightenment and there is NOTHING NEW ABOUT A GAME being promoted to sell hardware. I am sure I bought a 6750XT for a build and took advantage of COH3. They are called promotions.

Sure AMD looses revenues to provide something for free. My suggestion: Dream on, grow up and get better educated. If you do so that is your topic not mine. But never ever charge me to be so dumb and undereducated to believe your theories. Btw. For a discussion there are two needed. Believe it or not. I put you on my ignore list also. So for you the discussion stopped with this post. Enjoy your self talkings.

Edit:
Also in the automonile industry there are such silly offers also. If I live in Hawaii and there I never face temperarutres below 10°C. I want to buy a Porsche- I dont need winter tyres. Porsche has a world wide offer telling me that i get those winter tyres for free with every car order. If i would buy that promoted porsche i would also buy the winter tyres by that offer. No matter if I want or need them. Nobody would say that those tyres are for free. But because of computers, a lower price, or whatever at the CPU/GPU they believe so.

 

[Kapone33]

Sure AMD looses revenues to provide something for free. My suggestion: Dream on, grow up and get better educated. If you do so that is your topic not mine. But never ever charge me to be so dumb and undereducated to believe your theories. Btw. For a discussion there are two needed. Believe it or not. I put you on my ignore list also. So for you the discussion stopped with this post. Enjoy your self talkings.

Edit:
Also in the automonile industry there are such silly offers also. If I live in Hawaii and there I never face temperarutres below 10°C. I want to buy a Porsche- I dont need winter tyres. Porsche has a world wide offer telling me that i get those winter tyres for free with every car order. If i would buy that promoted porsche i would also buy the winter tyres by that offer. No matter if I want or need them. Nobody would say that those tyres are for free. But because of computers, a lower price, or whatever at the CPU/GPU they believe so.

You are joking right? I cannot go with your analogy because I have been in this space since the beginning. Even before Atari I had that Tank battle Game, In the Christmas of 1981,1982 I got hand held Space Invaders and Ms Pacman clones. From Grade 6-12 I spent a lot of time in Arcades. When the SNES came out I pre ordered one. The PS was holy shit this is insane but the PS2 is the Golden age of Computer Gaming as Konami, Capcom, Namco, Square and Indies were the rage. Then I got into PCs. My first PC that I built was to play TW Rome better. Then Medieval 2 was discovered and that was the one that got me. Ok now let's get back to the topic at hand. You what time of year it is? Marketing 101 is to do exactly what AMD is doing. Is it any different than Nvidia with COD. You cannot be so ignorant but that is going around in plenty since Covid.

 

[INSTG8R]

This guy is just pure gold! every post he is more,powerful and it went off the rials because he wanted the $20 instead of the game…..now is an imaginary computer mogul
Just remember this great amd powerful man has been ranting and pivoting at every opportunity

$20
I’ve gotten that much and change from this one. now that I think about every time these bund
es come up there are tons of keys suddenly being sold
This captain of iindustry ,finance and I’ve lost count shone able to take his myriad of skills amd turn it into a handsome profit we’d not believe the twist and turms of intrigue and guile it took to make it,,,.

 

[dyonoctis]

1. I was working a couple of time at the (at that time) biggest distributor (Importer) for computer parts within germany (Microtronica). At that time there have been direct contracts i.e. for Intel and Samsung my two collegues worked at. I have been that guy buing i.e. Harddisks so that they can be sold by the sales. I made the prices those HDD where sold in germany. All over i was teken care of around (let's say) 10.000 Products. I made the german prices and with that the margins for all of those articles. I also know a bit about mixed calculation etc. And with that i know how those prices are calculated. Ooops. Business is mainly black and white. Either one makes money or he's getting bankruptcy.

2. I didn't say that anybody did a favor to a dealer. I said that that dealer bought CPUs/GPUs when they where available at a lower price. So mind factory was able to push through that reduced price. If the dealer didn't offer those GPUs/CPUs for that low price again they also didn't got it again by their distributor (AMD or an importer). Others haven't gotten that CPU that cheap so they weren't able to participate at those lower prices. That's not an assumptiuon but a fact.

3. I don't care about micro center. They are not a valid seller within germany. But to answer your examples: It could be i.e. a mixed calculation. Both parties selling the Ram and the CPU/Mainboard(???) reduce their prices and a bit is provided by the dealership. People often get into a shop and buy more than they planned. But it is a fact that all of the businesses have their revenues by that offer. None of the businesses looses even one cent.

4. I already got my mainboard (Asus ProArt X670e). Aside a lot to do (constructing and printing 3D Parts) i have only a few things to buy (CPU 7590x /RAM 96gb 6000CL30/SSD's 2*2TB PCIe 4.0x4/5.0x4/GPU 6950x). Except the GPU Cooler (Watercool Heatkiller) everything around is bought. I paid for all that stuff already 3.500€. I buy my stuff for a build always according to a plan. Starting at the outter and focussing on the main parts at the end. First the time consuming parts and at lasrt the fast ones. It could happen that I have to buy a larger PSU (>1kW) and/or 4 coolers incl. the connectors for the SSD's and/or 2 coolers connectors for the RAM bars. So no. I won't buy a new mainboard for my 7950x rig. I also don't buy things not available in my township in a store as i'm sitting in an electrical wheelchair 24/7. To get to the next store/mall I would need at least 3 days to get there and back. That are around 50km one way.

If you imagine that the world would be a back you sit on. Then the almost brown spot of the back is the place i live. Here we don't have a delivery for dishes or even from a grocery/supermarket. That is btw. in the middle of western germany!


Sure AMD looses revenues to provide something for free. My suggestion: Dream on, grow up and get better educated. If you do so that is your topic not mine. But never ever charge me to be so dumb and undereducated to believe your theories. Btw. For a discussion there are two needed. Believe it or not. I put you on my ignore list also. So for you the discussion stopped with this post. Enjoy your self talkings.

Edit:
Also in the automonile industry there are such silly offers also. If I live in Hawaii and there I never face temperarutres below 10°C. I want to buy a Porsche- I dont need winter tyres. Porsche has a world wide offer telling me that i get those winter tyres for free with every car order. If i would buy that promoted porsche i would also buy the winter tyres by that offer. No matter if I want or need them. Nobody would say that those tyres are for free. But because of computers, a lower price, or whatever at the CPU/GPU they believe so.

Well shit man, apparently Berkeley one the most prestigious university in the US is teaching lies to their economics student. You should hit them up so that they can correct they are teaching to American students.
How Can Sales of More than 50% Be Profitable, Even Just For A Day? – Berkeley Economic Review
Look because of the American education spreading lies, shopify is also spreading misinformation
What Is Loss Leader Pricing? Definition and Guide (2023) (shopify.com)

Loss leader pricing and strategy is a marketing approach where a product is intentionally sold at a loss or minimal profit to attract customers. The marketing strategy is to entice shoppers with the discounted item, hoping they will make additional purchases of higher-margin products.

Even the prestigious Ivy league Harvard is telling lies
Price Dispersion and Loss Leaders (harvard.edu)

One common explanation for such dispersion is the use of a loss-leader strategy, in which a firm prices one good below cost in order to attract a higher customer volume for profitable goods

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[JAB Creations]

...and there goes my opportunity to grab a copy of Starfield without having to give money to Microsoft.

 

[gurusmi]

For me this topic is closed as the majority even don't understand what i'm talking about. d'Hondt mentionend this a failed communication.

 

[maxfly]

Microcenter.

 

[ThomasK]

You know the guy's a kiddo when he always has to have the last word.

Get a grip.