AMD Overclocking noob

[frozen_one]

I'm interested in building a budget gaming rig, but I've been out of the AMD market for several years. I have a CPU in mind, the AMD A10-7700K. Delidding this APU means I can get away with a lower-end cooler

The key to this build is good performance for cheap so I definitely want to overclock. What FM2+ boards are best for overclocking?

Thanks

 

[cdawall]

There is no reason to delid the CPU. this isn't intel AMD knows how to use thermal paste. That being said it is an easy delid job.

 

[frozen_one]

There is no reason to delid the CPU. this isn't intel AMD knows how to use thermal paste. That being said it is an easy delid job.

I have a lot of experience with delidding intel, so I'm interested in seeing if there is a significant improvement with AMD. That's the second bird I'm aiming for.

Don't mind spending a little extra on the board if it has good power design and BIOS

 

[GhostRyder]

I have a lot of experience with delidding intel, so I'm interested in seeing if there is a significant improvement with AMD. That's the second bird I'm aiming for.

Don't mind spending a little extra on the board if it has good power design and BIOS

Just get a Hyper 212 if you want a cheap cooler for overclocking. Delidding does not help much on those CPU's. I was able to push an 860K all the way to 4.6ghz on a Hyper212 with temps staying very reasonable for it.

 

[cdawall]

I have an H50 with a single fan pushing 4.6ghz on my A6-7400K with next to zero effort. These really aren't that hot.

 

[newtekie1]

Are you planning to use the integrated graphics or a dedicated card?

 

[frozen_one]

Are you planning to use the integrated graphics or a dedicated card?

Dedicated card, I can get a GTX 650ti for cheap but I'm thinking about an equivalent Radeon card instead. Until I make the decision I'll stick to the igpu

 

[OneMoar]

now is a terrible time to buy anything AMD buy intel you can get combo cheap enough and upgrade later

 

[frozen_one]

now is a terrible time to buy anything AMD buy intel you can get combo cheap enough and upgrade later

My local retailer is discounting the A10-7700k for $99, plus $40 off if combined w/ a MoBo. That's why I need to decide what board to go with. Narrowed it down a bit:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X+ BTC/
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4716#ov
or (reluctantly)
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSBLADE_RANGER/

Any feedback would be appreciated though

 

[newtekie1]

Dedicated card, I can get a GTX 650ti for cheap but I'm thinking about an equivalent Radeon card instead. Until I make the decision I'll stick to the igpu

If you are going with a dedicated card anyway, then skip FM2+ and go with AM3+ instead. An FX-4350 is cheaper than a 7700K, and performs better. You can grab an FX-4350 for $89 and an M5A99FX Pro for $97 and have a killer combo.

 

[cdawall]

If you are going with a dedicated card anyway, then skip FM2+ and go with AM3+ instead. An FX-4350 is cheaper than a 7700K, and performs better. You can grab an FX-4350 for $89 and an M5A99FX Pro for $97 and have a killer combo.

Agreed I have stuffed a couple $50 4130's into rigs. Pretty much guaranteed to hit 5ghz and perform pretty damn well.

 

[OneMoar]

If you are going with a dedicated card anyway, then skip FM2+ and go with AM3+ instead. An FX-4350 is cheaper than a 7700K, and performs better. You can grab an FX-4350 for $89 and an M5A99FX Pro for $97 and have a killer combo.

amd is a dead platform there is no upgrade path for cpu/ram
buying amd right now would be a pretty silly investment
id buy one of the 99.00 z97 boards and a Pentium G3258(cheaper and faster out of the box then a FXChip) ,upgrade to a i5 later or buy a skylake board and a Pentium G4400 and then upgrade to a i5 later or wait for zen either of these options makes better sense then buying a garbage FXchip on a dead platform that you will just replace anyway \

I can not stress how much you will be shooting your self in the foot if you buy amd right now

 

[cdawall]

Unless he just wants an AMD chip to play with dead platform or not they are cheap and fun to clock.

 

[frozen_one]

Unless he just wants an AMD chip to play with dead platform or not they are cheap and fun to clock.

Basically this. In all my experience I've only built two AMD rigs, an Athlon II way back in the day, and an FX-8120 when that was still new.

My ultimate goal is just to see how much performance I can squeeze out of a cheap AMD rig, I look forward to the overclocking

 

[OneMoar]

Basically this. In all my experience I've only built two AMD rigs, an Athlon II way back in the day, and an FX-8120 when that was still new.

My ultimate goal is just to see how much performance I can squeeze out of a cheap AMD rig, I look forward to the overclocking

then you are gonna need a a really beefy board the cheap APU/FM1 boards won't cut it it will blow the VRM's right off the board AMD's power consumption is absurd

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Basically this. In all my experience I've only built two AMD rigs, an Athlon II way back in the day, and an FX-8120 when that was still new.

My ultimate goal is just to see how much performance I can squeeze out of a cheap AMD rig, I look forward to the overclocking

Good for you.

Just cos its what people describe as "dead socket" doesnt mean it wont treat you well for many years. You may not be getting all the "bells and whistles"........so what? its going to be cheap and fun.


Good luck with the build, i put a cheap AM3+ build together last week so someone else gets a nice cheap pc for their house.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Memory speed is most important with AMD apu's...
I have a 7850k on a super cheap gigabyte A58 FM2+ motherboard and the board is at it's limits (literally) running CPU @4.5Ghz GFX @900Mhz and memory at 2.4Ghz but the only real performance improvements came with the higher memory speeds...

 

[cdawall]

The A6-7400k I have is on a super cheap A68 gigabyte board. 4.6 was easy on it no effort involved.

 

[frozen_one]

Good for you.

Just cos its what people describe as "dead socket" doesnt mean it wont treat you well for many years. You may not be getting all the "bells and whistles"........so what? its going to be cheap and fun.


Good luck with the build, i put a cheap AM3+ build together last week so someone else gets a nice cheap pc for their house.

I find great joy in salvaging low end PCs and turning them into speedy linux machines. Recently bought a craptop that could barely boot Win10 out of the box (Don't blame the hardware, Windows is getting greedy with the system resources these days) and now I'm logging into Mint less than 20 seconds after pressing the power button, resume from sleep times less than 12 seconds, and idle after startup uses about 400MB RAM. Never underestimate yesterdays computer!

Memory speed is most important with AMD apu's...
I have a 7850k on a super cheap gigabyte A58 FM2+ motherboard and the board is at it's limits (literally) running CPU @4.5Ghz GFX @900Mhz and memory at 2.4Ghz but the only real performance improvements came with the higher memory speeds...

I had not considered this. I have a couple 1.33GHz DDR3 sticks laying around that I can reuse, but now I want to directly compare between those and slightly beefier ram, maybe 1866 or 2.1.

 

[cdawall]

The APU's need 2133+...

 

[Deleted member 67555]

The performance boost in memory is significant going from 1333 to 1600 and even more from 1600 to 1866 and then to 2133 and while still a decent increase to 2400 its not as significant...
But my experience is on a board that hit its limits...
I am 100% positive that my 7850k could easily do more...
At 4.5Ghz and 900Mhz I've only increased the voltage +.005 with the memory@ 1.63v

Oh..I should mention that after 1866 only the gfx has any real improvements in performance...in my experience anyways

 

[Kanan]

Yep the 7850Ks GPU is pretty much bandwidth limited, so go for as much Ram clocks as possible if using the latest APU. 2400MHz Ram is a good start and doesn't cost any more than others. Also +1 to the FX 4350, it has L3 cache, it's better. Only go with the APU if you don't plan to buy discrete GPU.