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AMD Processors No Longer Crippled with Latest MATLAB MKL Update

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Soooo it "only" took them 4 months to implement a fix that a random guy from Reddit managed to make in a day or two.
Not to mention Ryzen is here since 2017... talk about lazy.
Fun fact, that's unfortunately how a lot of current software developers are...
 
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i seriously doubt MATLAB would not have EVER fixed the issue if it werent for the big stink over this. I do believe they knew of the issue all along, so it wasnt laziness that delayed pushing what could have been a hotfix into the regular update schedule. Its easier to assume Intel was the real cause, but no matter what direction the finger pointing is, its the almighty dollar that most corporate decisions are based on, and corrupt business practices.
 
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Every fix ever done could have happened earlier. The whole point of fixing issues is that someone has to notice the issue first.
For better part of a decade no one used AMD CPUs for Matlab. Simple as that.

Ad BTW: keep that in mind next time you'll write a post about how great ARM is and how easy it will be to migrate form x86.

Did you just say that no one in the whole world, not one single person, used MATLAB with AMD processors for almost a decade?
 
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Good. Time for Adobe to fix their crippled premiere too.
 
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So MATLAB has been crippling AMD CPUs for close to a decade, given FX CPUs could've benefited from SSE4 and AVX acceleration from 9 years ago.

Wow.
 
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So MATLAB has been crippling AMD CPUs for close to a decade, given FX CPUs could've benefited from SSE4 and AVX acceleration from 9 years ago.

Wow.

Intel's hands are quite choking...
 

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Intel's hands are quite choking...
And their $ is very enticing. If anyone here really thinks Intel wasn't paying Matlab to do this, then you are very naive about how big businesses work. Especially evil ones like Intel that have been doing stuff like this since day 1.
 
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And their $ is very enticing. If anyone here really thinks Intel wasn't paying Matlab to do this, then you are very naive about how big businesses work. Especially evil ones like Intel that have been doing stuff like this since day 1.
I need to see it in context with IBM. Both make cpus, both make 5.2+ GHz cpus the norm. Yet, one is the big blue which apple to microsoft hate, the other non-apple and non-microsoft hate. I cannot see it any different from business as usual. It is the fruit bearing tree that is cast stones.
 

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I need to see it in context with IBM. Both make cpus, both make 5.2+ GHz cpus the norm. Yet, one is the big blue which apple to microsoft hate, the other non-apple and non-microsoft hate. I cannot see it any different from business as usual. It is the fruit bearing tree that is cast stones.

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You haven't grasped me on that. Okay fine, sour grapes. However, look back to see how is it different than any other company? IBM for instance. You don't make history by being a sore loser.
Intel makes good products that companies 'want to sell'. That is a different ball game to what you are stating. Others might have good products, but how is it different than any other industry? Are we going to argue intel cpus have good features(speedstep always works to a t)... They aren't nvidia for instance, nor amd. They might not be the most ingenious, but it shows the level of their clearcut standards.
 

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You haven't grasped me on that. Okay fine, sour grapes. However, look back to see how is it different than any other company? IBM for instance. You don't make history by being a sore loser.
Intel makes good products that companies 'want to sell'. That is a different ball game to what you are stating. Others might have good products, but how is it different than any other industry? Are we going to argue intel cpus have good features(speedstep always works to a t)... They aren't nvidia for instance, nor amd. They might not be the most ingenious, but it shows the level of their clearcut standards.

"Intel makes good products that companies 'want to sell'."

:confused: Really? 15 years ago when AMD launched the famous Opteron series of server CPUs, Dell wanted to sell them but Intel told them not to and paid up to $900M quarterly in "rebates" from the MOAP.

So, hardly anyone wants to sell Intel products.
Maybe WiFi cards and SSDs, but CPUs and GPUs, hell, no!
 
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So, hardly anyone wants to sell Intel products.
Maybe WiFi cards and SSDs, but CPUs and GPUs, hell, no!
I am thinking the contrary. See I have acer netbooks that I praise for their lightweight sturdiness(nothing beats their scissor switch design and it is a chore to type daily) and I use intel's wifi apertures... but we are speaking of next gen. We don't want discrete wifi solutions any more, am I rite?
 
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I am thinking the contrary. See I have acer netbooks that I praise for their lightweight sturdiness(nothing beats their scissor switch design and it is a chore to type daily) and I use intel's wifi apertures... but we are speaking of next gen. We don't want discrete wifi solutions any more, am I rite?
Then your best bet is waiting for apple laptops with apple cpu’s. Intel is not going to integrate wifi or 5g to their cpu’s.
 
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In the end, think about this, big companies that need to keep their advantage position use practices that resemble how mafia works. You pay the ones that can give you an advantage over competition, and you cripple the competition at the same time using money as a tool to keep your advantage. Also, you subtly threat others that if they don't do as you said, there may be consequences....

That's mafia at its finest.
 

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They make two releases a year, March and September. Not every company panic blows a truckload of patches every week.

What an intelligent way of saying your dev team cannot do continuous delivery! >D
 
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What an intelligent way of saying your dev team cannot do continuous delivery! >D
I see it as a way to reduce the size of the dev team. "One person CAN do it all !"
 
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