AMD Releases Radeon Software Crimson Edition 15.11.1 Update

[Mussels]

I'm getting a flickering Gps marker in Fallout4 even with the new beta update ....not before the crimson drivers

theres a fix for it on the nexus, involves pasting two .dll files into the game directory.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I just installed Crimson for the first time. I like the option for minimal install; I don't like the fact "minimal" still includes the "Gaming Evolved" program and full UI. The only thing minimal about it (I think) is that dependencies aren't included and are only downloaded if necessary. That's an improvement but they need to go further.

 

[Octopuss]

So I was right in my suspicion: the damn Crimson driver (both the initial version and the hotfix) caused my system to randomly freeze into black screens. Impossible to troubleshoot as a bonus, because no errors ever appeared in the Eventlog. I went back to 15.11.1 beta (non Crimson) and thus far everything is running well. Bollocks.

 

[Octopuss]

15 minutes after writing this and almost two days of no freezes, guess what! FML!!!!!

 

[Mussels]

15 minutes after writing this and almost two days of no freezes, guess what! FML!!!!!

you might have one of those random instabilities, i've had two BSOD's in the last 48 hours because the temps rose 15C... had to rework my cooling and speed up some fans.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

So I was right in my suspicion: the damn Crimson driver (both the initial version and the hotfix) caused my system to randomly freeze into black screens. Impossible to troubleshoot as a bonus, because no errors ever appeared in the Eventlog. I went back to 15.11.1 beta (non Crimson) and thus far everything is running well. Bollocks.

I don't know about Crimson but the previous version logged all events to "ACP" in the Event Log.

 

[Octopuss]

I don't know about Crimson but the previous version logged all events to "ACP" in the Event Log.

ACP being what exactly? A category somewhere (where?) deep in that mess of logs?

 

[Frick]

I hate the fact that you can't change the language in this new (Crimson in general I mean) driver. Piece of shit software automatically shows everything in czech on my PC, and I seriously don't know what the hell most of the settings mean.

Welcome to the world of Google Translate, and even if a human is translating that person likely sucks at both languages.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

ACP being what exactly? A category somewhere (where?) deep in that mess of logs?

It was a folder under Windows Logs in Event Viewer.

 

[Octopuss]

Welcome to the world of Google Translate, and even if a human is translating that person likely sucks at both languages.

It's not Google translate, I am sure of it, but I never ever saw the czech equivalents in my life so I have no idea wtf it all means I am just too used to english when it comes to IT stuff.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Well, no Crimson for me. I decided to put my HD 5670 back in to drive my secondary monitor (VGA) and Crimson drivers don't cover it. I have to go back to 15.7.1 and stay there.

 

[Mussels]

Well, no Crimson for me. I decided to put my HD 5670 back in to drive my secondary monitor (VGA) and Crimson drivers don't cover it. I have to go back to 15.7.1 and stay there.

got the right driver package? not sure they're all the same/generic, the first crimson didn't support my laptop, the second did.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah. HD 5000 and HD 6000 have been committed to legacy support. Crimson will never support them.

I knew it wouldn't work because:
a) the screen didn't come on. Detect displays failed to find anything too.
b) in Device Manager, it said "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" with an error message saying something about the "card failed to POST because the driver is incompatible." The two cards have to be able to run off the same driver.

 

[Mussels]

Yeah. HD 5000 and HD 6000 have been committed to legacy support. Crimson will never support them.

I knew it wouldn't work because:
a) the screen didn't come on.
b) in Device Manager, it said "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" with an error message saying something about the "card failed to POST because the driver is incompatible." The two cards have to be able to run off the same driver.

my laptop is a 6 series (rebadged to 7 series in an update) 7670M and it works fine.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah, they're updating Crimson to handle HD 7000 and HD 8000. HD 5000 and HD 6000 are out to pasture.

That GPU you mentioned is the TeraScale 2 architecture which is the same as HD 5000/6000. Maybe there is still hope they'll retroactively add support for them but I'm not holding my breath.

Oh somehow i failed to notice these drivers existed with a seperate download for the legacy devices, derped on that one. downloading the right file for my laptop now.

But aren't those legacy drivers 15.7.1 (15.20.1062.1004-150803a1-187674C)?

 

[Mussels]

Yeah, they're updating Crimson to handle HD 7000 and HD 8000. HD 5000 and HD 6000 are out to pasture.

That GPU you mentioned is the TeraScale 2 architecture which is the same as HD 5000/6000. Maybe there is still hope they'll retroactively add support for them but I'm not holding my breath.



But aren't those legacy drivers 15.7.1 (15.20.1062.1004-150803a1-187674C)?

i think i got confused between the first and second crimson releases. first did not work on my laptop, second did.

 

[m0nt3]

Yeah. HD 5000 and HD 6000 have been committed to legacy support. Crimson will never support them.

I knew it wouldn't work because:
a) the screen didn't come on. Detect displays failed to find anything too.
b) in Device Manager, it said "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" with an error message saying something about the "card failed to POST because the driver is incompatible." The two cards have to be able to run off the same driver.

The crimson driver does support the HD5000/6000 series, just not the same one as the GCN card, its a different driver package. I ran into that problem with my 6950 as well. The link is below.
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy3&os=Windows 10 - 64

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Ah, they're supporting mobile back to HD 5000 but not desktop. I suppose that is because mobile can't really be upgraded.

The 15.7.1 on that link are the ones I'm running now.

 

[m0nt3]

below the 15.7.1 there is the crimson beta driver, works fine on my HD 6950

There, direct download link

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/Ra...5.11.1-Beta-64Bit-Win10-Win8.1-Win7-Nov30.exe

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Ah, I see, I clicked the wrong notes link. I think I'll download it and install it when I switch back to my R9 290X.

 

[m0nt3]

Ah, I see, I clicked the wrong notes link. I think I'll download it and install it when I switch back to my R9 290X.

I initially posted the wrong link and updated right afterwards :X

 

[Aquinus]

Well, no Crimson for me. I decided to put my HD 5670 back in to drive my secondary monitor (VGA) and Crimson drivers don't cover it. I have to go back to 15.7.1 and stay there.

Why don't you just get a DP to VGA adapter?

 

[Mussels]

Why don't you just get a DP to VGA adapter?

cause he's a silly bugger

 

[Aquinus]

cause he's a silly bugger

For once I think W1zz saying "No VGA output" as a con on GPUs finally has some meaning.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Why don't you just get a DP to VGA adapter?

Because they're slow. By the time the DVI monitor comes on, Windows already assumes the second monitor doesn't exist so it moves everything from the VGA display to the DVI display. That doesn't sound that bad...except the part where it's a KVM and happens many times a day. It gets obnoxious and I've tried many varieties:
5870: DVI + VGA->DP exists
R9 290X: DVI + VGA->DP exists
R9 290X + 5670: DVI + VGA did not exist but then existed because (at the time I didn't know) the DVI-D to DVI-I adapter came loose
R9 290X + HD 530: DVI + VGA->DP did not exist but desktop icons would shuffle around every time the KVM switched
R9 270 + HD 530: DVI + VGA->DB exists
R9 270 + 5670: DVI + VGA did not exist (currently using)

TL;DR: Windows 10 has an archaic desktop manager that doesn't restore old windows to their respective displays when the display comes back on.

I have a selection of active DP->DVI-D, DP->VGA, and HDMI->DVI-D cables. Because my motherboard has two HDMI ports instead of a DVI-D + HDMI, I had to use that HDMI->DVI-D cable for my primary display.

For once I think W1zz saying "No VGA output" as a con on GPUs finally has some meaning.

It's a huge con for me namely because affordable DisplayPort KVMs lack MST; the upgrade to DP KVM would mean no secondary monitor which effectively translates to a downgrade.

I looked around for a low end GCN card that would be able to fulfill the roll but not be a POS at the same time and they simply don't exist. 28nm has forced AMD and NVIDIA to reach for the sky in terms of wattage so one is hard pressed to find a decent card that doesn't require additional PCI Express power connectors. I'm pretty much forced to put up with the status quo until mainstream/budget 14nm/16nm cards come out.


Edit: Oh, and can't forget my server doesn't have a DisplayPort and I would have to get it a new card too. See the previous paragraph why doing that right now is nonsense.

Manufacturers are WAY too quick to cut off DVI-I. In these parts, finding someone that has a DisplayPort computer is like looking for a needle in a haystack. >5 year old computers are still common place.