AMD Reveals Ryzen 7 Family, Pricing, and Radeon Vega Logo

[Steevo]

Im awaiting complete benchmarks, the Ryzen Master overclocking tool looks good. 4.8 billion transisitors is fine since it contains so much on one chip, and that is the crux of it all, if the USB or PCIe drops out while overclocking too far, or corrupts data, or any other issues not brought to light until actual benchmarks are available. I want to see one under LN, the read and write speeds from USB, and a full test of memory overclocking, perhaps the reason they have only shown 8GB is the memory controller is weak.

 

[londiste]

4.8 billion transisitors is fine

no, it is not. this is roughly twice the amount comparable intel cpus have.
i am still counting on that being a stupid mistake during the presentation.

 

[Steevo]

no, it is not. this is roughly twice the amount comparable intel cpus have.
i am still counting on that being a stupid mistake during the presentation.

I appreciate your response, however, the number of transistors is irrelevant to the performance and has more to do with features included on the die.

"Intel’s Broadwell-E processors have officially launched, featuring a hefty 3.4 Billion transistor count."

Think about all the tings AMD have stuffed onto their chip compared to the 6900K, plus over 100 sensors that all take logic to support. 4.8 billion is NOT an issue.

 

[JMccovery]

The 7, 5 and 3 is there only because it's similar to Intels naming. But if you prepend it with R you get naming similar to the lower tier GPUs, SSDs, RAM, etc. You might not care, but there are people out there that do. And suggesting to them that the 7 series is not top tier (9 series) is bad marketing.

It's not all that different if you were to spell out Radeon for the GPUs.

Ryzen 7 1800X
Radeon X 480

 

[R0H1T]

It's not all that different if you were to spell out Radeon for the GPUs.

Ryzen 7 1800X
Radeon X 480

I wonder if there'd be an R9 CPU in the future, ten core or above? It'll go well with top end Radeon GPU.

 

[JMccovery]

I wonder if there'd be an R9 CPU in the future, ten core or above? It'll go well with top end Radeon GPU.

IF (so strong an if, it can be heard worldwide) AMD was to make a single-socket "HEDT" platform based on Naples, I would hope they'd use Ryzen 9, because heaven knows that Intel didn't have the marketing prowess to call their HEDT chips the Core i9 series...

 

[Steevo]

I wonder if there'd be an R9 CPU in the future, ten core or above? It'll go well with top end Radeon GPU.

Considering they are working on 7nm stuff, and if their die size is already the limit the R9 may have to wait for the shrink, or may only be server parts.

 

[londiste]

I appreciate your response, however, the number of transistors is irrelevant to the performance and has more to do with features included on the die.
"Intel’s Broadwell-E processors have officially launched, featuring a hefty 3.4 Billion transistor count."
Think about all the tings AMD have stuffed onto their chip compared to the 6900K, plus over 100 sensors that all take logic to support. 4.8 billion is NOT an issue.

transistor count is irrelevant to performance, you are right about that. however, it has direct impact on die size, very serious impact on the manufacturing price, yields etc.

broadwell-e is a 10-core chip, 6950x being the fully enabled version. haswell-e (5960x) is intel's latest 8-core chip. haswell-e is 2.6 billion transistors.

it's actually the opposite, amd has stuffed less stuff into the chip compared to intel. notably, avx2 that reportedly has been bloating intel chips lately. comparing to 6900k, ryzen should have lower transistor count.
taking that into account, 2.4 billion transistors is roughly what i would expect 8-core ryzen to have. thus the speculation that 4.8 billion number from the announcement is correct, but for 16-core version.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

transistor count is irrelevant to performance, you are right about that. however, it has direct impact on die size, very serious impact on the manufacturing price, yields etc.

broadwell-e is a 10-core chip, 6950x being the fully enabled version. haswell-e (5960x) is intel's latest 8-core chip. haswell-e is 2.6 billion transistors.

it's actually the opposite, amd has stuffed less stuff into the chip compared to intel. notably, avx2 that reportedly has been bloating intel chips lately. comparing to 6900k, ryzen should have lower transistor count.
taking that into account, 2.4 billion transistors is roughly what i would expect 8-core ryzen to have. thus the speculation that 4.8 billion number from the announcement is correct, but for 16-core version.

AMDs is a system on a chip ,Intel's is not requiring a south bridge and North bridge AMD do not , AMD have incorporated a north and south bridge in chip to a certain level anyway which is then further filled out by a much reduced south bridge , DDR controllers and pciex controllers use mucho transistors too so I dunno ,there aren't any cores hidden though , that I'm sure of.

 

[londiste]

northbridge was for ram and partially pci-e (or other buses back then) controllers or the like. these have been integrated into cpus since athlon64 and nehalem.
southbridge traditionally included everything else. this is what now gets called chipset.

there really is no real difference between amd and intel cpus when it comes to what is integrated into cpu itself.

 

[Imsochobo]

northbridge was for ram and partially pci-e (or other buses back then) controllers or the like. these have been integrated into cpus since athlon64 and nehalem.
southbridge traditionally included everything else. this is what now gets called chipset.

there really is no real difference between amd and intel cpus when it comes to what is integrated into cpu itself.

I don't think intel has usb included in cpu ?

 

[londiste]

I don't think intel has usb included in cpu ?

neither does amd.

usb controller, as well as sata controller along with bunch of other things are in chipset.

 

[N3M3515]

AMD Ryzen CPU pushed beyond 5.2GHz on all 8 cores (video)

Thought it would be higher....

 

[kruk]

AMD Ryzen CPU pushed beyond 5.2GHz on all 8 cores (video)

Thought it would be higher....

Do the Intels 8C/16T Broadwell-E overclock much better?

 

[YautjaLord]

5.2GHz/1.875v under LN2? How high this beast will OC under EK's XE360 type of custom liquid cooling? 4.5GHz/1.45v tops? On all 8 cores/16 threads? Man, it's annoying how slow-paced these stuff kicks in, March 10 or so i'll have cash for mobo & CPU (R7 1800X), f*ckin April 10 - for custom EK loop. It will take close to half a year till i'll build both R7 1800X/X370 & i7 7700K/Z270-based rigs. I'm f*ckin starving for this stuff, ffs.

P.S. This guy in vid along with Linus, they both annoy me a bit with their high pitched voices, but they have awesome stuff in their channels nevertheless. Thanx for link N3M3515.

*EDIT*

Who said you can't have top-dog components for 1000$ & still outperform competition, forget about it when OC'd: https://www.ekwb.com/custom-loop-configurator/step9. Approx. 960$ (with CPU) & looks good, this'll be my take on cooling & OC'ing R7 1800X. Cheers.

P.S. They have Crosshair VI Hero listed in mobos section.

 

[londiste]

Do the Intels 8C/16T Broadwell-E overclock much better?

people have had year or more with intel's chips already but at least when ln2 is concerned they have been clocked higher:

• 5960x (haswell-e) at 6.1ghz: http://hwbot.org/submission/2627140_sin0822_cpu_frequency_core_i7_5960x_6111.68_mhz
• 6950x (10-core broadwell-e) at 5.7ghz: http://hwbot.org/submission/3289574_elmor_cpu_frequency_core_i7_6950x_5731.78_mhz

6900k is cut down from 6950x and as such, people really don't care about pushing that one as far as it goes.
ln2 is as far as it gets from actually usable overclock, so...

 

[johnspack]

This almost hurts... I did amd286 to 64x2 before I finally went intel. Didn't even do intel first run, got an 8088, then swapped it for it a v20, then an 8086, quickly replaced by a v30
I just quit my x58 setup, and bought all x79 used. Dammit! I could possibly of done 1700x instead....