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AMD Ryzen 7 4700G "Renoir" Desktop Processor Pictured

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Here is the first picture of the AMD Ryzen 7 4700G, the company's upcoming socket AM4 APU based on the 7 nm "Renoir" silicon, courtesy of VideoCardz. The picture reveals a standard-looking socket AM4 chip with commercial name and OPN markings (100-000000146), matching the Igor's Lab OPN code leak from earlier this week. The Ryzen 7 4700G offers an 8-core/16-thread CPU based on the "Zen 2" microarchitecture, and an integrated graphics solution that combines the SIMD machinery of the "Vega" graphics architecture, with the updated display- and media engines of "Navi." The iGPU is configured with 8 CUs (512 stream processors), which on the 4700G has an impressive maximum engine boost clock of 2.10 GHz, according to the Igor's Lab story.

The 8-core/16-thread CPU of the Ryzen 7 4700G has a nominal clock speed of 3.60 GHz, and a maximum boost frequency of 4.45 GHz, with several Precision Boost power-states in both directions of the nominal clock. The CPU features 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 8 MB of shared L3 cache (4 MB per CCX). The iGPU engine clock goes all the way up to 2.10 GHz, which could help it overcome some of the CU deficit vs. "Picasso," which has 11 CUs (704 stream processors), but clocked only up to 1.40 GHz. Since the Ryzen 5 3400G has an unlocked multiplier, it stands to reason that even the 4700G could. If the platform I/O of "Renoir" in its mobile avatar is anything to go by, then the 4700G could feature a limited PCI-Express x8 lane setup for its PEG port. AMD is rating the TDP of the 4700G at 65 W.



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I'm wondering about the price.
 
3rold said:
I'd say about 200, a steal if it comes at that price.
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Oh yeah, it would be great for people who want to build a decent gaming system for cheap.

Yes, I know... the word "decent" around here has different meanings depending upon who you talk to.
 
Not bad...not bad at all..
 
That's a good idea for who don't buy an external graphics cards and take advantage of power of multiple cores.
 
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I'm guessing up to $300 for the highest end SKU. Remember Intel sells 'APUs' all the way up the stack to $500 so having an IGP doesn't automatically mean budget. For some reason, enthusiasts require AMD 'APUs' to be cheap and don't even consider or compare the IGP in Intel 'APUs'. Just think of AMD 'APUs' as chiplet Ryzen's with graphics capabilities in much the same way that Intel sells chips with and without the IGP for only tens of dollars less.
 
So I had a look at the prices of the older versions, and it seems like the APU variants usually follows the price of the corresponding CPU.
Didn't care about clock speed, only launch prices. No good matches for 3000G APU's, obviously.

Remember that 16 threads today is much more competitive than 8T was two years ago when the 2400G was launched, so expect no bargains.
Most likely not under $250, I'm guessing more like $269. Also, Comet Lake pricing might have some influence. I hope AM4 Renoir will show up the day before CL, probably not tho.

1200 $109
2200G $99

1400 $169
2400G $169

1200 AF $60 (launched much later, but 2300 is OEM so whatever..)
3200G $99

3300X $129
3400G $149 (not the same thread count or generation, I know..)

3700X $329 (lower now)
4700G ?
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The most important data which is missing from the reveal is the memory support.
 
Easily a $300-350 product as it is a well binned die for both the CPU and iGPU aspects of it. Maybe some other iterations with 6-core and less CUs will come after that and will cost less.
 
Why the hell do you guys think it will end up cheaper than 3700x? No way.
 
HD64G said:
Easily a $300-350 product as it is a well binned die for both the CPU and iGPU aspects of it. Maybe some other iterations with 6-core and less CUs will come after that and will cost less.
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With the 4900H & 4900HS so close in CPU speed but lower power, I'm not sure how much extreme binning is going on with this one. Yeah I know, usually different binning for speed and efficiency.

Also, $300 is possible, but $350 is 10700KF (no IGP) territory, and I have a feeling AMD wants to go lower than that with this one, leaving Matisse for higher price points with its premium features (more cache and lanes etc.).

Remains to be seen how well Renoir clocks, and how much Comet Lake is boiling..
 
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Raendor said:
Why the hell do you guys think it will end up cheaper than 3700x? No way.
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You are right sir. It is not feasible that an 8C/16T processor with IGP will sell below $200. I think some are equating this with what came before and not taking into account the increased core count. I also think I need to revise my pricing estimate upward.

Core i7-10700 $323 (1000 unit trays)
2.9/4.8 GHz
8C/16T
includes IGP
65W

Ryzen 7 3700X $300 (current pricing on Newegg)
3.6/4.4 GHz
8C/16T
no IGP
65W

*RUMORED* Ryzen 7 4700G $330-350 (my estimate)
3.6/4.45 GHz
8C/16T
includes IGP
65W

That looks right.
 
Mats said:
Prepare to be amazed. :D
I fail to see why this will cost more than the 3800X.

24 thread 3900X is $410.
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Maybe because a 3700X with an iGPU shouldnt cost less than... a 3700X?
Street prices aside, 3700X is a 329$ MSRP right now. You won't launch a better product for less.
 
This is going to be a $200 chip...
Even as impressive as it is it's still a gimped cpu with a built in GFX.
I think AMD is just raising the game with Intel...pay no attention to the extra cores when trying to determine price.
 
dj-electric said:
Maybe because a 3700X with an iGPU shouldnt cost less than... a 3700X?
Street prices aside, 3700X is a 329$ MSRP right now. You won't launch a better product for less.
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If the 4700G is configured like the mobile part... The 3700X does have some noticable advantages, like much larger caches and almost twice the number of PCIe lanes...

AMD still also hasn't said diddly if the desktop APUs will have PCIe 4.0 or only have 3.0 support like the mobile parts.

jmcslob said:
This is going to be a $200 chip...
Even as impressive as it is it's still a gimped cpu with a built in GFX.
I think AMD is just raising the game with Intel...pay no attention to the extra cores when trying to determine price.
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Yup... AMD seems to have really neutered this thing. :(
 
dj-electric said:
Maybe because a 3700X with an iGPU shouldnt cost less than... a 3700X?
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I said 3800X, not 3700X. You conveniently leave out the drawbacks of Renoir, with it's lower cache (8 instead of 32 MB L3) and fewer lanes. Granted, it also has lower latencies.
3800X is still the premium product, even if it might not make 100 % sense in the end. The way I see it, -X is right under TR, then comes non-X and -G (dunno about the order of the two latter).

In theory we might see -GX Renoir, although I highly doubt it.

dj-electric said:
Street prices aside, 3700X is a 329$ MSRP right now.
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Didn't AMD lower the MSRP at the end of january? Can't find any info about it tho.

dj-electric said:
You won't launch a better product for less.
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It all depends on what the competition will launch between 3700X and 4700G, ie Comet Lake. AMD can't just stare at their own product lineup.
 
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