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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D and 5000GT Chips Start Selling in Europe

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But how would they exhaust the remaining stock of 12nm I/O dies then? (And they have to keep buying them, the agreement with GF is still in place)
Actually it would probably be even longer, zen3 (embedded) is going to be made till at least 2026 & the chiplets are all reusable so they can keep them churning for a long time!
 
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That why i build new pc on AM4.
5700X-175€ vs 7700X-365€
motherboard am4-145€ vs am5-260€
RAM ddr4-39€ vs ddr5-77€
AM4 359€ vs AM5 702€
Choice for gaming is clear! 2K is slower 8%, 4K 1% slover. For 220€ difference you can picka lot faster gpu (7600vs 7700xt ) ~35% more powerfull
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CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€211.49 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€176.64 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: *ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€119.89 @ Alternate)
Total: €508.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You might be surprised. It depends on what Games you play.
Naah, this is already way superior to my old 3600 which I used for 3 years. Not gonna spend ~300EUR for AM4 anymore.
 
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Disagree. X3D R9 is a halo product. Not many buy them, and rightly so, but they have a place in the lineup as demonstration of power. R5/R7 are mainstream/enthusiast parts which are actually purchasable by most people.

The problem is it didn't demonstrate all that much power. That setup of a CCD with v-cache, the other with higher frequency and to top it all off having xbox game bar of all things manage the balance of the two has to be one of the greatest tech pranks of all time.

This. Does anyone remember the narrative about X3D on AM4. People were moaning about the 12 and 16 core chips not having Vcache. AMD gives us exactly that and the narrative moans about it. Now the narrative are telling you that your R9 Vcache CPU is not faster than the 7800X3D because it has 1 CCD like this is 2017.

People were moaning expecting both CCDs would have 3d v-cache, not the weird setup AMD came up with. Not that it would make a particular difference or financial sense either, it's the old want moar powahhhh!!! complaining but it would avoid the pitfalls of the current solution.
 
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The problem is it didn't demonstrate all that much power. That setup of a CCD with v-cache, the other with higher frequency and to top it all off having xbox game bar of all things manage the balance of the two has to be one of the greatest tech pranks of all time.



People were moaning expecting both CCDs would have 3d v-cache, not the weird setup AMD came up with. Not that it would make a particular difference or financial sense either, it's the old want moar powahhhh!!! complaining but it would avoid the pitfalls of the current solution.
AMD openly stated that they tried that and having one CCD without Vcache was better as it allowed those cores to clock to 5.7 Ghz which improved performance. You don't have to believe me just read user reviews of the 7900X3D on Amazon or Newegg.
 
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AMD openly stated that they tried that and having one CCD without Vcache was better as it allowed those cores to clock to 5.7 Ghz which improved performance. You don't have to believe me just read user reviews of the 7900X3D on Amazon or Newegg.

I don't have to believe AMD either, in aplications on average it seems to make no difference other than margin of error and gaming seemingly just wants cache

 
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I don't have to believe AMD either, in aplications on average it seems to make no difference other than margin of error and gaming seemingly just wants cache

Margin of error on performance, but not a margin of error on power consumption:

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The X3D kicks the crap out of the X in efficiency:

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Naah, this is already way superior to my old 3600 which I used for 3 years. Not gonna spend ~300EUR for AM4 anymore.
Well yeah, if you play at 4K, you'll need to upgrade your video card long before your CPU, even if you only had an R5-5600. I upgraded to my R7-5800X3D from an R7-5700X but it was because a coworker was looking for a Zen3 octocore chip for productivity and I sold him my 5700X. All told, the 5800X3D cost me $100CAD and that's a bargain! Otherwise, I'd still be using my 5700X quite happily.

Of course, then Starfield came along and I was damn glad to have the X3D because early on, getting 60FPS at any resolution required at least a 5800X3D. It's not a huge deal as games like that are so rare as to be statistically irrelevant.
 

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Well yeah, if you play at 4K, you'll need to upgrade your video card long before your CPU, even if you only had an R5-5600. I upgraded to my R7-5800X3D from an R7-5700X but it was because a coworker was looking for a Zen3 octocore chip for productivity and I sold him my 5700X. All told, the 5800X3D cost me $100CAD and that's a bargain! Otherwise, I'd still be using my 5700X quite happily.

Of course, then Starfield came along and I was damn glad to have the X3D because early on, getting 60FPS at any resolution required at least a 5800X3D. It's not a huge deal as games like that are so rare as to be statistically irrelevant.
I'll be getting a new GPU in 24H1, that's for sure. :)
 
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