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People are looking at specific games, but you should look at the overall performance. At 720p, it is 10% better than 5800X and it slots between 12700K and 12900K. That is a good feat, but it is a waste of silicon, given how much space that 64MB takes, almost a full chiplet.
 
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Not the best possible memory for Ryzen (latencies other than CL quite poor), and no information about either single or dual rank (which may have a big impact).
Alder Lake has about the best DDR5 memory money can buy.
Ryzen:
2x 16 GB DDR4-3600
16-20-20-34 1T
Infinity Fabric @ 1800 MHz 1:1

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2x 16 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6000
36-36-36-76 2T / Gear 2
 
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Hmm, would putting something like 3800cl16 increase the performance..? Would be fair given that ddr5 kit is pretty top-notch while the ddr4 kit is pretty slow for todays standards.
 
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Congrats for the early review and thanks for your hard work as always.
Honestly I'm extremely curious of what that 96MB of L3$ can do in combination with 128MB of L3$ and SAM with a 6900XT or 6800XT (to keep condition similar with RTX 3080 tested here), so curious I'm considering buying one myself to test it!
Do you think such a test could be possible??
I know it's incredibly time consuming, but I belive it can be a great piece of content ;-)
 

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Hmm, would putting something like 3800cl16 increase the performance..? Would be fair given that ddr5 kit is pretty top-notch while the ddr4 kit is pretty slow for todays standards.
Yes, but the CPU can't run DDR4-3800 at 1:1, max FCLK is 1866 MHz
 
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Could you add Farcry 6?
It seems Alder lake does really well with Farcry 6 and I wanted to see how the 5800x3d compares.
 
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is like, everything about it locked? cant change any voltages at all? like, the IOD ones related to memory/fclk, they shouldn't hurt the 3dcache no
 
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Exactly. Have been doing some tests @4K with my new (finally!) 3080 and tbh if I limit my 5950x to single CCD and 6 cores/ccd (6 cores in total like a 3600x) it doesn't make a difference.
Well, you didn't need 5800X3D review to be out to know that
 

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Well you all look Avg FPS , look at the framepacing this CPU is delivering the smoothest frametimes and has 99.9%th higher than the average framerates of most of the other CPUs. Which means it is delivering the smoothest gameplay with less hickups no matter the resolution or the GPU.
 
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Yes, but the CPU can't run DDR4-3800 at 1:1, max FCLK is 1866 MHz
Would you please show where that is stated?
Almost all Ryzen 5000-series can run FCLK 1900 or 2000. Even many Ryzen 300o-series work at FCLK 1900 (like my TR 3960X).
A fast (dual rank) b-die kit @3600 CL16-16-16-36 or even 3600 CL14-14-14-34 would have given quite a bit better results.
 
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Very interesting, but I guess I won't be getting this since the improvement at 4K just doesn't matter over my existing 5800x.
 

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Would you please show where that is stated?
Almost all Ryzen 5000-series can run FCLK 1900 or 2000. Even many Ryzen 300o-series work at FCLK 1900 (like my TR 3960X).
A fast (dual rank) b-die kit @3600 CL16-16-16-36 or even 3600 CL14-14-14-34 would have given quite a bit better results.
It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866
 

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Well written summary and appreciate the detailed benchmarks. I was expecting more than WinRAR to really appreciate the cache but this is still quite interesting.

I'm really curious if Microsoft Flight Sim will benefit from the cache..
 
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It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866
The Bios you are using lacks the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver and you are using an unoptimized AGESA 1.2.0.6c. release. These benchmarks need to be redone when AMD releases the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB) and 1usmus is stating the performance is enhanced by AGESA 1207
 
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Dang, should have bit the bullet and got a 5900x months ago.
 
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I'm underwhelmed for the price. With the exception of a few odd ducks, it's less than 10% faster than 5800x for 20% more cost.
 

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The Bios he is using is without the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver and unoptimized AGESA 1.2.0.6c. These benchmarks need to be redone when AMD releases the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB) and 1usmus is stating the performance is enhanced by AGESA 1207
Not true, let's talk again in a couple of days when other sites posted their reviews using the same setup
 
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Very impressive cpu.

Easy recommendation for those 2 gens behind if their motherboard supports it.

killer far cry (lol) and borderland performance - wow!

“can it play farcry “

yes,yes indeed.

Bravo AMD
 
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Not true, let's talk again in a couple of days when other sites posted their reviews using the same setup
It's a fact that you are using an unoptimized Driver. AMD has not released the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB).
 

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It's a fact that you are using an unoptimized Driver. AMD has not released the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB).
Nope, I used the driver that AMD recommend for the reviews
 
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It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866

I asked over on reddit but might as well ask here. Any idea if that is just a dud mc or is it another X3D limitation?
 
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It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866

for Alder lake with DDR4 , What's maximum clock without getting error in prime95 ( or general )?
 
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It's a fact that you are using an unoptimized Driver. AMD has not released the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB).
I'm curious about those new drivers but maybe they are more usefull on non game scenarios. Here we can see 10% increase from 5800X even with lower clocks, so 3DV-Caché is doing his job excellently
 

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I asked over on reddit but might as well ask here. Any idea if that is just a dud mc or is it another X3D limitation?
No way to know at this time, I'm sure other reviewers will test it in a couple of days. CPU is retail, not an ES, in case you're wondering
 
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