AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D To Feature Significant Clock Speed Boost

[Legacy-ZA]

Use an aio on your CPU then that won't be an issue.

Yeah, that's not really how things work.

Anyway; it's much simpler to get an air cooler that can take the thermal load, and put a Static Low-RPM profile on the fan/s, so it always turns without causing any thermal-throttling. You want the noise levels of the fans in your machine to stay the same at all times, this way you can keep them at say, 35dBa and tune out the frequency over time.

Some fans might say they are a low dBA, but they can still be extremely annoying depending on the individual person's hearing levels and the frequency the fan makes. It's why some people don't hear coil-whine from their GPU, while others can, which drives them bonkers.

 

[clopezi]

Intel Core i9-14900K Benchmarks - Geekbench

Nonsense if new generation it's slower than previously one...

 

[Aken Bosch]

This makes me feel tingly down there.

Ankles?

 

[docnorth]

This makes me feel tingly down there.

As long as it doesn't burn, it should be ok.

 

[xorbe]

Typo alert: "78000X3D"

 

[pavle]

Let's speculate a bit: AMD recently announced that 9700X is still under warranty even at 105W, while default at 65W. If 9800X3D is allowed 120W as 7800X3D, then 5.5GHz or even a bit more is achievable compared to 7800X3D's 5.0GHz. Would up to 500 or 600MHz higher boost be considered significant (that is 10% or 12% higher max_clock)?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I saw a video from Jays2cents saying there is a toggle in the latest AGESA 1.2.0.2 BIOS that switches TDP from 65w to 105w.

 

[Caring1]

I saw a video from Jays2cents saying there is a toggle in the latest AGESA 1.2.0.2 BIOS that switches TDP from 65w to 105w.

I watched that also, and he wants the default setting to be the 105W instead of the current default of 65W where "power users" can change it in the Bios, for a measly 10% increase in performance for 40W more power usage.

 

[Chomiq]

I'm surprised that people still fall for this after the 9xxx series launch. Wait for actual reviews, don't get caught up in marketing hype.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I get it, but I'm not a big gamer, so productivity is more important. Looks like this time we will all be happy.

If you're about productivity, why are you looking at 9800/x3ds when the 9900 and 9950 exist?

 

[phanbuey]

That's not true. He is often wrong but I saw him say nearly every time 15-20% with 15% being most likely and he said he did not beleive at all other leaks saying 25%+ like redgaming said. AMD themselves were touting 13% on average. MAybe they only used Linux for testing.


Cinebench is a benchmark, in the real world using apps I use it is much slower. Sure, sometimes it is only a few % slower and in a handful of apps v-cache is important, but sometimes it is >> 10% slower. You need to look at all the benchmarks not Cinebench alone. Efficiency is great though. 9800X3D allows full OCing via PBO and with higher clocks the penalty for real world productivity will be small enough that hopefully a still great power efficiency makes it a no brainer compared to 9700X price aside.

He was very much on the zen 5, Intel is screwed, hype train. -- He did say at least 15-25% and it ended up being 5%. Then he backtracked and said, well - it's actually 15%-35%(avx 5) in these (cherry picked) benchmarks.

 

[demirael]

Intel Core i9-14900K Benchmarks - Geekbench

Nonsense if new generation it's slower than previously one...

WTF are you on about? This article is not about Intel chips, not even the coming ones that don't have HT and will likely be slower than 14th gen. Wrt the 9800X3D, it *can not and will not* be slower than 7800X3D.

 

[Tomorrow]

CPU are so good now everything seems kinda irreverent at this point.

For some nothing is ever good enough

Tell that to people who are CPU bottlenecked. GPU's are still outpacing CPU's when it comes to gen-on-gen performance gains.

However, AMD being AMD, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with an MSRP of ~$550 for the 9800X3D.

Funny because 550€ was exactly the price i paid for 5800X3D when it came out ($450 MSRP). Even so it has served me well for these past few years and will continue to do so.

My medical profession tells me, that you need cream on your man/woman sausage area.

Anti-chafing cream...

There should be an easy reference guide for which games benefit from 3D V-Cache.

It's far easier to count the games that dont benefit from the extra cache.

Using an AIO didn't work on my 7800X3D for some reason. It overheated even after several repaste attempts. It's happy under a Dark Rock 4 in a semi-passive operation now.

Thermal density. Heat concentrated on such a small area that even an AIO cant get rid of it fast enough.

Typo alert: "78000X3D"

It's over 78000!

Would up to 500 or 600MHz higher boost be considered significant (that is 10% or 12% higher max_clock)?

Yes. Yes it would.

I'm surprised that people still fall for this after the 9xxx series launch. Wait for actual reviews, don't get caught up in marketing hype.

This a leak. Not a marketing slide.

If you're about productivity, why are you looking at 9800/x3ds when the 9900 and 9950 exist?

Exactly. Odd people complaining that 7800X3D is not a productivity monster. I could understand those complaints back when 5800X3D launched and there were no Ryzen 9 X3D models.

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He was very much on the zen 5, Intel is screwed, hype train. -- He did say at least 15-25% and it ended up being 5%. Then he backtracked and said, well - it's actually 15%-35%(avx 5) in these (cherry picked) benchmarks.

Intel has screwed itself very well, Zen 5 or not.
He always maintained 15-20%.
Blame RedGamingTech etc for 40% or more rumors.

Still it's unfair to blame MLID for 5% because in reality no one expected it to be this low in general applications and gaming.
15% has been pretty standard across Zen generations. Zen 5 is a major deviation in this regard.
Essentially you are blaming MLID for not being a time traveler and reporting 5% a year before it came out.
As it turned out AMD themselves did not know the exact number even after launch...

 

[Chomiq]

This a leak. Not a marketing slide.

shows off a supposed retail box for the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D that was sent to AMD's partners for marketing, and along with that, he claims to have had access to the entire marketing slide deck

This is a leak based on marketing slides.

 

[Kapone33]

We will see the gulf between X3d vs X chips is almost 700 Mhz.

 

[leonavis]

What's the point of all these leaks so close to product launch?


Agreed. They're all kind of irrelevant unless you have a 4090 and are looking for every last frame with a magnifying glass.

or you're playing Baldur's Gate 3 Act 3 ^^

 

[chrcoluk]

I watched that also, and he wants the default setting to be the 105W instead of the current default of 65W where "power users" can change it in the Bios, for a measly 10% increase in performance for 40W more power usage.

I think they sold as a 65W part, so he probably wont get his wish, and the 105w option is much lower efficiency as well.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

or you're playing Baldur's Gate 3 Act 3 ^^

Or Late game Factorio, or sins of a solar empire, or starcraft II, or you like minimum FPS to not dip below 60 FPS. The x3d is noticeably faster in gaming.

 

[phanbuey]

Or Late game Factorio, or sins of a solar empire, or starcraft II, or you like minimum FPS to not dip below 60 FPS. The x3d is noticeably faster in gaming.

This is going to be THE AMD chip IMO. This has much less of a tradeoff between single core performance and productivity vs the 7800x3d, and still has the gaming chops.

This going against a tuned arrow lake with cudimm ram is going to be interesting. Ill probably end up getting the 9800x3D tho tbh.

 

[blueferrari]

I really don't see any advantage, like many have commented below. All CPUs at this point seem to do the trick. I run a 4080 with my i7 9700k and game at 4k with capped frames at around 75 - 80fps, as I don't see any difference with higher frame rates, so what benefit do I really get with the 9800X3D?

 

[phanbuey]

I really don't see any advantage, like many have commented below. All CPUs at this point seem to do the trick. I run a 4080 with my i7 9700k and game at 4k with capped frames at around 75 - 80fps, as I don't see any difference with higher frame rates, so what benefit do I really get with the 9800X3D?

Im sitting in remnant 2 in 4k at 100-120 FPS on a 240Hz monitor w/ DLSS and 70% usage on the gpu on a tuned 13700k (5.4Ghz all core) with fast ram. Could easily be getting 180-240 FPS if the CPU was strong enough. Same story with cyberpunk, baldurs gate3 etc.

Sure I could lock my fps to 80... but i would rather have 180+gsync. Way more enjoyable - it's an absolutely huge difference to me the way the game feels.

Upping to a 9800x3d that can push high FPS to the 4090, and be able to deal with the resource pig that is nvidia driver would result in smoother gameplay and let me actually cap modern titles to 200+ fps when i tune the game settings at 4k.

 

[scottslayer]

In addition to confirming previous rumors about the new X3D CPU being capable of higher clock speeds, MLID also reinforced other rumors that the 9800X3D will be launching as soon as October 2024.

Funny you should say that because in his most recent video he talks about how it may be moved off to Q1 after all, in other words he has no clue.

 

[JoeTheDestroyer]

There were rumors around the Zen 4 X3D launch that they had fixed the X3D frequency regression (voltage and heat limitations). Yet once we had products in hand, it was clear they had not.

Not inclined to believe any rumors about this at this point.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I watched that also, and he wants the default setting to be the 105W instead of the current default of 65W where "power users" can change it in the Bios, for a measly 10% increase in performance for 40W more power usage.

that "up to" is a gacha.

 

[AusWolf]

Or Late game Factorio, or sins of a solar empire, or starcraft II, or you like minimum FPS to not dip below 60 FPS. The x3d is noticeably faster in gaming.

Sure, but what GPU does it take to be CPU limited and actually notice the difference? Not to mention you have to be constantly staring at your FPS monitor, which is not a good way to enjoy a game.