AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D & 9900X3D Speculative Pricing Appears Online, $699 & $599 Respectively

[mkppo]

I was thinking of 9950X3D mostly to get a better IMC bin (the 9800X3D's seem to be getting decent ones in general) but I got 4x 9950X's yesterday to sift through and see if I can get a belter. If I do, no 9950X3D for me.

But 699$ sounds about right. Wait for a few months and get a firecracker of a 9900X3D deal. Honestly 7900X3D went for ridiculous prices and I expect the same this time.

Now where's the tachyon ice or apex..

 

[Makaveli]

I was thinking of 9950X3D mostly to get a better IMC bin (the 9800X3D's seem to be getting decent ones in general) but I got 4x 9950X's yesterday to sift through and see if I can get a belter. If I do, no 9950X3D for me.

lol you got an inside contact at Canada Computers that will let you buy 4 of these test them keep the best one and return the rest?

Seem like alot of effort for minimal gains.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

lol you got an inside contact at Canada Computers that will let you buy 4 of these test them keep the best one and return the rest?

Seem like alot of effort for minimal gains.

I did the same thing to get a 5800X that could do 2000 IF lol although that took a lot more than 4 but all of them went to good homes.

Funny enough once I got my Crosshair 8 hero and swapped it into that it could no longer do beyond 1900 regardless of what I tried it took a similar amount of 5950X as well all for a couple %

 

[mkppo]

lol you got an inside contact at Canada Computers that will let you buy 4 of these test them keep the best one and return the rest?

Seem like alot of effort for minimal gains.

Nah man i've been building these for more than 25 years now so I do have contacts here and there (not in CC though, wouldn't mind one lol) but refuse to do the 'test and return as new' thing. Never done it, it's not right.

I bought all 4 CPU's myself for relatively not much $. I'll keep the best one, put the other in the second PC and sell the other three as used. It's how it should be IMO.

As for minimal gains, yep they certainly are. But when you're knee deep into memory overclocking and have either an Apex or Tachyon coming up, having an IMC that can do 8200+ is sort of a necessity otherwise there's not much of a point getting those boards anyway. Wouldn't mind 2233 IF either, but the dual GMI links reduce frequencies by around 33mhz in the dual CCD configs so maybe 2.2. Let's see

 

[sarthurn]

700 USD for a 16 core with X3D... kinda non-expensive? I don't know, it's just wild to me we're not seeing the 999 USD treatment that Intel liked to do for their Extreme Edition CPUs long ago.

In 2018 the i9-9980 went for close to $2000 See -- > https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-9980xe.c2109

 

[Chrispy_]

700 USD for a 16 core with X3D... kinda non-expensive? I don't know, it's just wild to me we're not seeing the 999 USD treatment that Intel liked to do for their Extreme Edition CPUs long ago.

That's because 16-core is a pedestrian mainstream core count at this point.

Ryzen 9 has been stuck on 16-core for 6 years now, not dissimilar to the rut Intel got stuck in with quad cores for 10 years before Coffee Lake. 12-core CCDs with Zen6 can't come soon enough!

AMD's HEDT platform is Threadripper and $999 is a distant pipe-dream when thes are the 'low-end' HEDT chips:



If you really want to see excessive, uncontested pricing (because Intel dropped out of the HEDT game altogether), the top Threadripper Pro models have a list price of $9999 before tax.

 

[windwhirl]

If you really want to see excessive, uncontested pricing (because Intel dropped out of the HEDT game altogether), the top Threadripper Pro models have a list price of $9999 before tax.

Yea, I'm aware. I'm just somewhat pleasantly surprised AMD isn't charging 1K USD per 9950X3D unit.

 

[Zach_01]

Yea, I'm aware. I'm just somewhat pleasantly surprised AMD isn't charging 1K USD per 9950X3D unit.

I bet next 24core dual CCD X3D, 10960X3D or whatever they will call it will be $900
$800 the non X3D

 

[Chrispy_]

Yea, I'm aware. I'm just somewhat pleasantly surprised AMD isn't charging 1K USD per 9950X3D unit.

You can thank competition for that.
16C with SMT isn't significantly better for multi-threaded application performance than Intel's mid-range i7 with 20 cores:

e-cores aren't much good for gaming, but neither are dual-CCD ryzens, so it's a moot point.
I'll always cheer for the underdog, but AMD aren't the struggling underdog they used to be and it's time to move on from 2017's 8-core CCD.

 

[Zach_01]

You can thank competition for that.
16C with SMT isn't significantly better for multi-threaded application performance than Intel's mid-range i7 with 20 cores:

e-cores aren't much good for gaming, but neither are dual-CCD ryzens, so it's a moot point.
I'll always cheer for the underdog, but AMD aren't the struggling underdog they used to be and it's time to move on from 2017's 8-core CCD.
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To be fair the 8core CCD that’s into Zen3/4/5 is different than the first 2017 one. Wasn’t even chiplets back then. It was a monolithic 4+4core+I/O CPU. Zen2 had it different but still each CCDs was 4+4. Only Zen3 and after the CCD was a true 8core.

…but I get your point

 

[Chrispy_]

To be fair the 8core CCD that’s into Zen3/4/5 is different than the first 2017 one. Wasn’t even chiplets back then. It was a monolithic 4+4core+I/O CPU. Zen2 had it different but still each CCDs was 4+4. Only Zen3 and after the CCD was a true 8core.

…but I get your point

Ah yes, I forget that Zen and Zen+ weren't chiplets - that was a Zen2 thing (and why we got 16C CPUs on the entry-level consumer socket for the first time)