AMD sales hit 80% for mindfactory.de

[ARF]

Ryzen 5000 makes Intel's Rocket Lake look like a paper launch in latest Mindfactory data but overall AMD CPU sales also hit new low - NotebookCheck.net News

Mindfactory Report July 2021 - Imgur

 

[Bomby569]

Intel is closing the gap then

 

[ARF]

Intel is closing the gap then

AMD can blame only itself - inadequate pricing and lack of supply. Lack of good enough product lineup to keep the advantage.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Yet steam hardware charts still shows AMD at the bottom.

 

[HD64G]

Sold quantities are decreasing after the craziness of the last 9 months. Nice! Prices of CPUs will drop down more until the end of the year.

 

[neatfeatguy]

Sold quantities are decreasing after the craziness of the last 9 months. Nice! Prices of CPUs will drop down more until the end of the year.

AMD CPUs have been pretty much widely available (at least in my area at Micro Center) for the past few months. They've always got 5600x, 5800x, 5900x and 5950x in stock and all are priced below the MSRP.

I was surprised to see the 5950x priced at $60 off. I know the 5900x has been priced $50 off for a bit and the 5600/5800x have all been below MSRP for some time now.

 

[ARF]

Without Graphics cards, the customers can not build complete configurations.
The sales decrease.

 

[The red spirit]

Sure, the 10400F on a B460 board isn't going to set the world on fire but it's availabe, affordable, and for someone in need of a machine and unable or unwilling to wait for limited AMD stocks to arrive at something approaching the MSRP, it's a good deal.

Even if Ryzen was available who Intel platform with 10400F is nearly twice cheaper. It's a crazy good deal. Ryzen has nothing on that.

AMD CPUs have been pretty much widely available (at least in my area at Micro Center) for the past few months. They've always got 5600x, 5800x, 5900x and 5950x in stock and all are priced below the MSRP.

I was surprised to see the 5950x priced at $60 off. I know the 5900x has been priced $50 off for a bit and the 5600/5800x have all been below MSRP for some time now.

Not in Europe. Here half line-up is not available ever and most of it is overpriced.

Without Graphics cards, the customers can not build complete configurations.
The sales decrease.

They sure can with integrated graphics.

 

[ARF]

They sure can with integrated graphics.

I cannot. If you can, good luck to you with that "performance".

 

[The red spirit]

I cannot. If you can, good luck to you with that "performance".

It's a display adapter. Not great for games, but it lets you have a complete functional machine.

 

[ARF]

The overall CPU sales numbers decline, maybe caused by the elevated GPU prices.

October CPU sales data @ mindfactory : Amd (reddit.com)

 

[ARF]

Very bad sales figures for AMD for November 2021.
Year-over-year down from around 36,000 CPUs sold in November 2020 to miserable 15,000 this November 2021.

Mindfactory CPU Sales Nov 2021 - Imgur

 

[ratirt]

Very bad sales figures for AMD for November 2021.
Year-over-year down from around 36,000 CPUs sold in November 2020 to miserable 15,000 this November 2021.

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Mindfactory CPU Sales Nov 2021 - Imgur

These are bad sales? 70% CPUs sold is from AMD vs 30% Intel. How is that bad? Yeah they have sold less than previous months but it is still way over Intel's Maybe the demand has dropped but AMD is still outselling Intel big time.

 

[R0H1T]

Very bad sales figures for AMD for November 2021.

A lot of users are waiting for zen3d so they're sitting likely on their $$$ for now. AMD sales will jump in the next quarter for sure!

Also a new release, by Intel this time, will always have a dipropionate response in the sales numbers, especially at the start.

 

[ARF]

A lot of users are waiting for zen3d

I don't think so. Don't keep your expectations too high because Zen 3D is a short-lived stop-gap with Zen 4 coming a few weeks later.
Sales will not improve magically.

 

[Yraggul666]

Can't wait for Zen3D to hit, see the reviews, buy a 5600X3D or 5800X3D or whatever they'll be called and forget about upgrades 'till 2026.

 

[ARF]

Zen 3D will be like the XT versions of Zen 2. No one will buy them.

 

[Yraggul666]

Bullcrap. I'll buy one. I'm someone. You're wrong.

 

[ARF]

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[R0H1T]

I don't think so. Don't keep your expectations too high because Zen 3D is a short-lived stop-gap with Zen 4 coming a few weeks later.
Sales will not improve magically.

There's enough people buying Zen with the last major release in 2020, a lot of people are waiting for zen3d ~ including me, so nope you're wrong in that assumption. Can I quantify how many ~ obviously not because sales numbers will do the talking over there!

Wanna bet they "magically improve" with a (semi)new release next quarter?

 

[Mussels]

I don't think so. Don't keep your expectations too high because Zen 3D is a short-lived stop-gap with Zen 4 coming a few weeks later.
Sales will not improve magically.

If they add a new budget offering (we have nothing lower than the 5600G right now!) it may well boost sales massively - because all the 3000 series low end chips like the 3300X have been out of stock for some time.

If they've been using that time to stockpile competitively priced parts, we COULD see a huge surge in sales.
Or they could use the demand to rake in profits and price everything stupidly high and see them drop.

 

[R0H1T]

Or they could use the demand to rake in profits and price everything stupidly high and see them drop.

This if capacity at TSMC is still tight!

If they've been using that time to stockpile competitively priced parts, we COULD see a huge surge in sales.

They'll eventually do this once Apple moves completely to 5nm. Some of their SoC's will still be made on 7nm but they'll occupy the leading edge 5-3nm for latest & greatest in iPhone, iPad & now Macs or MacBooks.

Remember 7nm will be with us for at least a decade if not more

 

[Chrispy_]

Zen 3D will be like the XT versions of Zen 2. No one will buy them.

The XT models offered negligible gains for your extra cash whilst being architecturally identical to the vanilla originals. An XT at 4.5GHz performed identically to the original so there was zero point paying more for nothing. Silicon lottery was a bigger factor than whether it had an XT label on the box or not.

Extra 3D cache in Vermeer S is supposedly going to have some very significant performance gains. As always, that's rumour - wait for actual reviews, but even if it's only half of the rumoured performance uplift then it'll be enough to steal some victories back from Intel and will make a drop-in CPU upgrade very tempting for anyone with a compatible motherboard. Hopefully every 400-series board will support Vermeer S and there will likely be plenty of people with Ryzen5 2600 or slower looking to get a CPU upgrade without having to fork over an extra $500 for a Z690 board and DDR5 kit.

 

[ratirt]

Zen 3D will be like the XT versions of Zen 2. No one will buy them.

Oh i think you are wrong. The XT version was literally the same as a Zen 2 with 2%-3% performance increase and maybe lower voltage. This is totally different. The 15% performance increase isn't something to sneeze at. How can you even say Zen3d is like an XT version? XT was exactly the same as zen2 literally nothing changed you may say silicon quality better and thus produced some marginal improvement. This is different with the V-cache. That is a very simplistic comparison from your side. I totally disagree.

 

[R0H1T]

Extra 3D cache in Vermeer S is supposedly going to have some very significant performance gains.

That's not a rumor anymore, the Azure benchmarks from MS show it's excellent across a lot of "server" loads. Obviously this will affect desktop programs differently but it's only a matter of time before massive L3 caches become a norm if not a necessity for big IPC gains!