AMD Spring 2022 Ryzen Desktop Processor Update Includes Six New Models Besides 5800X3D

[TheLostSwede]

Are you referring to the 500 or 600 board series or both?

600-series. The Z690 boards were done in about two months time, which is extremely short by Intel standards.
In the good old days, Intel used to make reference boards they handed out to the motherboard makers and then spend at least six months on helping the board makers finetune their designs, BIOSes and so on. Hence why Intel had quite stable platforms on launch. Now, not so much and the board makers aren't what you'd call thrilled about it. This isn't really public information though.

As for my shiny new 5800X, it works with XMP, first AMD CPU I've had that works with XMP, so that was a positive surprise. Still going to tune my RAM when I have five minutes to spare.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Fun five minutes I'll be willing to bet

 

[5 o'clock Charlie]

600-series. The Z690 boards were done in about two months time, which is extremely short by Intel standards.

Thank you for clarifying. I did not know it was that short of a time period. I remember in previous generations, there were board revisions and stepping changes. Not sure if that will be the same with the 600 series.

In the good old days, Intel used to make reference boards they handed out to the motherboard makers and then spend at least six months on helping the board makers finetune their designs, BIOSes and so on. Hence why Intel had quite stable platforms on launch. Now, not so much and the board makers aren't what you'd call thrilled about it. This isn't really public information though.

Ah, the good old days when Intel made reference boards as well as ones for retail. That would explain why my z77 board with a 3770k was very stable. So it sounds more like a trial and error guessing game when you have no reference as a starting point. Maybe the pressure was on to get Alder Lake out and fix the problems later for several reasons. I could be wrong

As for my shiny new 5800X, it works with XMP, first AMD CPU I've had that works with XMP, so that was a positive surprise. Still going to tune my RAM when I have five minutes to spare.

Happy to hear it plays nice with XMP profiles. My 5600X works flawlessly with XMP, but I have not had any time (or experience) to fiddle with timings further. I am happy with my 14-14-14-34 timings @3200 from the XMP profile currently. Though your 16-19-16-19-36 timings @3600 is very good. Hope you can get them lower. Have you tried the DRAM calculator or just trial?

AMD have confirmed that there aren't any more consumer X3D SKUs coming. That demo was an ES chip, and is not coming to market.

I figured the demo was from an engineering sample, but I assumed there were plans for a production chip. In regards to the 5800X3D being the only of its type, was that detail in a previous news post? If so, I missed that. I have a friend wanting to upgrade from a 3950X to a 5950X3D instead of having to wait and invest into the upcoming AM5 platform. Thanks.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Happy to hear it plays nice with XMP profiles. My 5600X works flawlessly with XMP, but I have not had any time (or experience) to fiddle with timings further. I am happy with my 14-14-14-34 timings @3200 from the XMP profile currently. Though your 16-19-16-19-36 timings @3600 is very good. Hope you can get them lower. Have you tried the DRAM calculator or just trial?

3800MHz. Just tuned it back and it's working with the same settings as my 3800X. Might have to see if I can improve it further. I was using the DRAM calculator initially, but then trial and error to try and tweak things.

 

[chrcoluk]

Guys a little history lesson of my hypervisor/NAS rig. Throughout its life I have had one consistent benching tool called novabench used during the machine's life which gives a CPU score (it also tests ram which over time has skyrocketed performance, but here just concentrating on CPU).

All except 5600G used host CPU passthrough.

It started off as a i5 750 overclocked to 3.6ghz, power hungry beast. Running ESXi
By the time it was retired the CPU benched at a score of 307.

I then upgraded the platform to AM4, Asrock B450 Pro 4 board, and 2600X CPU.
Still on ESXi it was scoring circa 420 with stock bios settings and stock ESXi settings, 380 with CBP off (the daily config) and around 440 with agressive power config in ESXi and CPB on. I did suspect ESXi had a very unoptimised scheduler for Ryzen and wasnt convinced CBP was working properly. But ESXi doesnt let you view CPU stats so it was never confirmed.
VMs felt noticeably more responsive in tasks, so was a visibly faster platform.

I then switched over to Proxmox keeping same hardware, advantages were really that in datacentres Proxmox was much better for me, and I expect would have better scheduler support and the ability to disable all CPU mitigations.

It seems I never did a bench in novabench with CPB enabled on the 2600X, so no best case score.
But with CPU mitigations off, and in proxmox, CPB off, the CPU averaged a whopping 670, considerably faster than the ESXi setup.
At this point I felt windows VM was easily faster than my laptop bare metal.

Now fast forward to today, not long ago I switched out the CPU for a 5600G, and the ram is running a little faster 3000 vs 2667mhz. Note am using EPYC cpu type instead of 'host' as qemu cant handle all Zen3 new instructions well.
Novabench CPU score with CPB off is ......... circa 900.
Windows VM feels faster than my 9900k bare metal lol. Granted it has less stuff installed bogging it down but the 5600G is a crazy good chip. AMD really have come a long way.

 

[lexluthermiester]

These look pretty good! Great to see competition returning to the general consumer CPU market

I offer this correction to highlight a point. Took AMD long enough though.