AMD to release new FX processor (with AIO)

[Shambles1980]

Seeing as the 9590 still uses 1.5V+ i think its no different

thats what i think too.. But hey ho.

Perhaps you know of a chip with eight cores on a 32nm node that does what you are asking for but I don't

I know of a chip That was supposed to do that but didnt...
Its a bit like having a giant ocean liner thats been built to be un-sinkable but then it sinks.. it has to be considered a fail..

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

My dicks bigger my cars faster and so is my pc mate and I can prove it.
See I can be a chimp too...

im done here your not using reasoned arguments yourself its fail because its not as advanced as intels best thats absolute ass chowder, its not great but mine works fine..

 

[Shambles1980]

My dicks bigger my cars faster and so is my pc mate and I can prove it.
See I can be a chimp too...

lol, i guess a rational and coherent debate is not something you were able to do.. but nvm.

 

[HammerON]

Enough of the inappropriate comments. It is time to move along.

 

[Shambles1980]

im done here your not using reasoned arguments yourself its fail because its not as advanced as intels best thats absolute ass chowder, its not great but mine works fine..

no what i said was they set out to do something said what they were going to do. then cut corners, cut costs. and managed to produce a limp wrist-ed Shadow of what they tried to do..

if i set out to build a house to hold 12 people in comfort. using eco friendly materials, and have renewable energy built in so i had no electricity bills.
then decided to cut corners. Ended up with a shed that could hold 4 people cramped made out of cement and its power came from the national grid, that would be a fail..

If i tried to climb mount Everest, arrived at the bottom and decided to take a shortcut that only took me 1/2 way up then i came back down.. That would be a fail..

so if amd say they are going to make a 8 core low tdp high ghz cpu that will show intel whats what. then all they manage is a over clocked cpu that runs hotter than the sun using twice as much power and at best can only manage to achieve similar performance to an intel chip of the same price. then that is a fail..

If they said We are going to make a ridiculously power hungry and hot cpu that has 4 fully featured cores and then 4 kind of bits of cores added on and call it 8 cores. that will just about manage to compete with an i7 but it will cost you twice as much to run and will need a really good mother board and water cooling to even think about achieving its potential.
Then it would have been what they said.. probably wouldnt have been the best marketing idea ever. and probably wouldnt have sold many. but atleast they would have achieved what they set out to do.

thats pretty well explained as in "amd failed to achieve their goal"
Then we have the fact that
It is power hungry needs a expensive mother board and water cooling to perform the same as the same priced i7..
so thats a fail there again. amd are suposed to provide more bang for your buck. but with this chip they managed to provide less than intel did whilst at the same time costing you more in electricity, and making you pay more for a mother board, also you need really good and expensive cooling..
So thats multiple fails on all points..

so this chip is a fail.

is that reasoned enough for you "mr lets edit my last word in after i think no one will read any more of this"

 

[THE_EGG]

Why, when an Intel chip at 4.5ghz is still faster and less power consuming.

Because bragging rights maybe. Sure I can get an AMG A45 AMG which is a little quicker than its rival, BMW M135i but the 135i has a six-cylinder engine vs the four pot in the A45. I'd prefer the 135i just because of that. Also having an underdog product can be awesome if it then comes to out perform its better rival in some task/activity.

no what i said was they set out to do something said what they were going to do. then cut corners, cut costs. and managed to produce a limp wrist-ed Shadow of what they tried to do..........................................................................................................................

You seem pretty convinced that this is a fail chip yet you were saying earlier in this thread that because it hasn't been relaunched with its AIO yet we can't say if it will be able to cope without throttling. Should this not be the same for the chips weaknesses too? as well as its strengths?

ok.. sorry i didnt know you knew what the power requirements of this new chip was going to be so can guarantee it will oc just fine on those boards..
perhaps you could let us know what they will be..

Besides Haswell processors don't use much power at all compared to AMDs offerings yet they run pretty damn hot. I'm predicting that watt/degree will be heaps better on AMDs side when we look at what AMD and Intel have produced recently. I doubt that the AMD chip will run into throttling issues.

 

[Shambles1980]

my issue is with the chip its self not the re-release.. adding an aio is simply polishing a turd.
They needed to do much more than just add water cooling for it,
an 8350 is a much better offering from them.
i just dont see the point in getting a chip that even users say mostly wont get to 5ghz due to heat. and review sites say really cant be oc'd past 5.15
when others have gotten an 8350 to 5.5 for less money..
i understand that not all 8350s will get to 5.5 and your mostly looking at around or below 5ghz.
but given its lower thermal throttle point the 9590 is actually going to be 4.7 possibly 5ghz if you have the right cooling but only when not using all cores. and throttle back sooner due to heat than an 8350..
so its worse.. more expensive and just throwing an aio in to the box wont change that.

I will admit they do seem to get more mhz as an avarage, but they use higer v compared to intel.
but my point simply is an 8350 is cheaper can probably achive the same or faster clock speeds with the same board and cooling, and is less likley to throttle due to temps because of a higher ceiling.
that makes the 8350 better in all aspects..

i would like to know what my cpu's tdp is when over clocked. but having said that amd's tdp is rated with all the cool and quiet settings and stuff like that enabled. so they will sail past that tdp when pushed even at stock.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

The expert speaketh still eh nice

 

[Shambles1980]

The expert speaketh still eh nice

butt hurt much?

 

[RCoon]

Discussion is over, I've asked for the thread to be locked as the OP. The PR was shown, the debate was had, and the release was detailed.

Party is over, move along, start a different thread if you wish to discuss TDP and CPU design.

It would be nice if somebody was at least a gentleman and decided not to continue crap-posting in order to stop the dick parade in its tracks, but sometimes the stern approach has to be taken.